The Porn Rap Star and Host of STO Podcast Bobbie Lucas

Ep 365: The Porn Rap Star and Host of STO Podcast Bobbie Lucas. The Southern Champ! Listen in on my real to life chat with Bobbie as he shares about life in the business. After 15 years doing various things associated with the adult film industry, he learned and experienced many things, including seeing many changes. He shares his experience of how he got into doing films, and now that he's retired and podcasting, he still enjoys making a profit off of them. He ran a modeling group helping women get started and more exposure and did music prior to acting in films himself. He talked about how women dominate the industry because they are the stars and set the tone of the shots. He shared the differences between West Coast Hollywood sets and the east coast amateur/pro-am/independent creators. He also shared how things have changed where he used to burn films to DVDs, now things are digital and Only Fans has changed the entire landscape of the business. Now it's flooded and people sell their content for less or even free.  He shared how he wanted things change and there became more content with BDSM, kinks, and interracial films. He talked about his experiences in the biz as a producer and as male talent.  We discussed the difference between porn and erotica...where people must use their imagination, of maybe they GET TO use their imagination.  We debated and brainstormed by more men are buyers over women for porn, but women tend to buy more erotica and audio erotic content. Maybe it's cultural? What do you think?
 Check out his podcast  S.T.O. The Smoker's Lounge where porn stars come and give real smoke and get candid about the industry, life, and sex. https://open.spotify.com/show/71b0tnjrW8nFk1HGsUPAIp?si=aQ91uRwAQSe1di6RzscFBA

Some fave mentions: He's a freak by nature so he took to being in front of the camera. His family was okay with it because "you've got to feed your family". He said even if he became a preacher, he wouldn't take his content down. People in the industry are just regular people too. Women dominate the porn industry, like no other industry. Women get dick when they want it, men get pussy when it's available.

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Transcript

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Episode 365 season 3. 
Hello, everyone.

0:05

This is Ruan Willow with the Oh Fck Yeah with Ruan Willow podcast.

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And I have a very exciting guest today.

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But first I want to show my t shirt.

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Forever Horny is from tpublic.com, Casualties of Fashion, Southern California.

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And he's on Twitter as bbpierce2.

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So he has amazing shirts.

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They're really all fun.

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So check him out.

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And also quick mention, I am an ambassador for Manscaped.

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So if you want to get 20% off, use my code RuanWillow20.

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You can get 20% off and free shipping at manscaped.com.

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Okay, now that's all the crazy stuff that needs to get out of the way.

0:41

I want to welcome my guest to the show.

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How are you today?

0:45

I'm doing fine.

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I'm a little jealous, you know, for the flex you just gave me about manscape.

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See, one day I'll be big time like you baby.

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Well I was a little surprised they wanted to work with me I just pitched them for the heck of it you know I'm like oh they're gonna say no you know but since I have a lot of men who follow my podcast they're like yeah we so I've been working with them since I think June.

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See I'm gonna tell you when I hit them up they said I didn't give enough numbers.

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I gotta get my numbers up a little bit before I holler at them.

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Right, well let's introduce us to you.

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Oh I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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That's totally cool.

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My name is Kavanaugh, The Southern Champ, aka The Porn Rap Star, the host of STO, the STO stands for Smoke This Over, The Smokers Lounge, where the porn stars come and give that real smoke about the industry, life, sex, and everything else up under the sun.

1:49

That's awesome.

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And I was just on your podcast, which isn't live yet, right?

1:53

Yes.

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No, it's not live.

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The show isn't quite live.

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Right.

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Right.

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So.

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Pre-record everything.

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Yep.

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Me too.

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So I'm so excited to chat with you and find out about your life and how you got into the business.

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Cause you know, it's not common.

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Like I, I guess I know a few people that do porn, but how did you get into it?

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Well, for one, I'm retired.

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So I'm on full podcast so I can put that out there.

2:20

Oh sure.

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Trust me, I don't, I still make money off my shit.

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You can still find my stuff, you can go look.

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So what I talk about on my podcast, I legitimately have done it.

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I know what I'm talking about.

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But anyway, I digress.

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I got in the business in 2010.

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Okay.

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And it was reluctant.

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Oh.

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Well, actually, technically, I was in the business, not as talent.

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I was,

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Three, if you want to be technical about it, 20 years.

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Because five of those first years, I ran a modeling group, an internet modeling group called the Blue Collar, the BCB Street Team, aka the Blue Collar Band that was called.

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I was doing the web, using websites, the internet started to pop off, what have you.

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Plus I was doing music, you know, and so I figured to help, because I had connects in the industry,

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To help girls become video vixens or what have you.

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Sure.

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At the same token, in return, they promote my music.

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I used to throw parties with the BCB Street Team.

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I used to have girls, you know what I'm saying, come from out of town to be in the parties and all that shit.

3:29

I would do that down in North Carolina when people weren't doing that, you know.

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Right.

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So around 2010, I was also helping people with their websites or what have you.

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Designing them or what have you.

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I mean, understand this, I wasn't great with code.

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But I can make your website look good.

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So I ran across a lady by the name of Miss Simone and she was out of Boston.

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I also was managing a male talent.

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I dare not say his name.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Fck that.

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Fck that mothafucka.

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But anyway.

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And trust me, he's a story of himself.

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That's something every time you come to the premium smoke room,

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I'll give all the names and all that.

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But anyway, so she, he got her to come and he paid for her to travel to North Carolina.

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Sure.

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And also from talking to her, she wanted me to do a website because she, you know, she liked the work that she saw.

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And also

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I got to put it.

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She not only did I have a, I also had a meet and greet set up for her so where she can meet fans and stuff like that.

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So anyway, um, she wants another male talent to work with other than him.

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And I said, I don't have one.

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She said, why not you?

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I said, I'm not a male talent.

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I don't get in front of the cameras.

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It was the second time I was offered.

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Second time.

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Second time.

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So, and um,

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She said, look, I'm willing to pay you $300 a month to do my website, keep it, all this, you know, period.

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And this is also around the time when PayPal wasn't owning like that.

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So you can get away with putting PayPal in your shit.

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Oh, gotcha.

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So yeah, so I had it down, fact trust me.

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She said, I'll pay you $300.

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She says this, either you agree to be male talent also and I pay you $300, you get this money and I come down there or don't be male talent.

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I keep my ass here in Boston.

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You understand something, I'm a freak by nature anyway.

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So being in front of the camera wasn't an issue for me, but it's just dang what I wanted to be.

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I wanted to be the director.

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I wanted to be behind the camera.

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I was a cameraman, you know, period, yeah.

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You know, I wanted to be the idea shit.

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So I told her, let me get back to you.

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I said, give me two days.

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Let me think on it.

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I said, I want this $300.

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Good time, Bobbie had no job.

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I'm doing shit off of unemployment.

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Yes.

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I was throwing parties off of unemployment people.

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Yes.

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I knew how to make money.

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So I talked to a BCB street teen girl by the name of Black Asia, who was a porn star herself, who I don't, to this day, I cannot remember her porn name.

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She had some French shit.

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She shot with the big names.

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So I told her my dilemma and she said, why don't you do it?

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I said, well,

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It was because I'd worry about the cameras and this.

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I didn't think I had porn dick.

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See people don't understand the difference between porn dick and boyfriend dick.

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It's a difference.

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Don't give a damn what you say, but it's a difference.

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That's a conversation for another day.

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And she told me, she said, no, you, you big enough.

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She said, because when she came down, she did a striptease thing.

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She did some chocolate shit on me so me and her got in the shower together.

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What the hell you got to lose?

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I had a conversation with my girl.

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She said, do what you do.

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She said, do what you do.

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She was like, I'm not worried.

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You know.

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She was all in.

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Yeah.

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And so I told her I was down.

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At the time I was staying with my girlfriend in Chapel Hill.

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So I went to the Chapel Hill Health Department, got my test and she came down for a weekend and I shot my first ever scene.

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Wow.

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Might have would have shot more if one of my homeboys didn't tell her that I didn't like her.

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Which it was, I didn't like her because this is what he exactly said.

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He said, I like big girls.

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And I was like, no, I mean, she was cute.

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Don't get it twisted.

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She was real short.

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She was slim.

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She had a nice ass, she was in third.

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But it's about personality for me.

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Do I prefer women that are thick?

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Fck yeah, I need something to squeeze on.

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Squeeze on and hug and cuddle and snuggle.

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You know what I'm saying?

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And can't do that with a toothpick.

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Only thing I can do with that is pick my teeth.

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So like I said we shot the scene and when I look back at it, it was good.

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I thought I did terrible.

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I mean we hit all the positions.

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We did get the pop shot but she started sucking the cameraman's dick during the scene.

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With me

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And I said this to Ebony, my best friend.

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And I explained to him, I said, look, I said, you should have pushed her hand away.

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He was like, why, man?

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Because I said, no, because I don't ever want no female to sit here and think that what we're going to do is double team mother fcker this and that.

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No, this is professional.

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I always try to keep it professional no matter what.

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You know, period.

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But everything went good that day.

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The next day she shot with the other guy.

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Also this was not only my first shoot but my first lesson in the business about paperwork.

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So then I knew about 2257 on my release form.

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So when we shot the scene, I didn't sign something, she didn't sign something, but she had Mr. Perfect sign something which, you know, in hindsight, I should have saw it then but I didn't know.

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So I had my first scene and

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I couldn't put it up because I had the paperwork.

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Mrs. Purple couldn't put up his, but she can put it up.

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And I don't know if she ever put up his, I said his name anyway, but anyway.

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He, he, he couldn't do nothing with me.

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And this is the second time something like this happened.

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Okay.

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Which each of them was lessons learned.

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So that's how I got into the business.

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So after that, I said, I'm in it.

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I did it.

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Let's go.

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Bobbie Lucas, The Southern Champ!

10:38

Now back then did they have you doing all the testings and stuff?

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Cause like I know a woman who does, has her own company and she does her own porn and she gets herself tested all the time.

10:48

Was that a standard back then or was it not as much of a worry or is it always been?

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No, no, no.

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Testing was a standard, but you could walk in, you could give, you can do a health department.

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And back then testing was good for 30 days.

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So they say if it was back in the day,

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The people that shoot now only had to get tested once a month.

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They had to get tested twice a month or three times a month, you know.

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But nah, they would take a health department.

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You know period.

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TTS was not that prevalent unless you was going out west to work with a major company.

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East Coast had their side of the porn.

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West Coast was the Hollywood.

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East Coast was the amateur.

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Or the pro-am, really the pro-am.

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And yeah, testing was very much a part of it.

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But see, even with me, for 10 years, I wore a condom.

11:36

Oh, okay, you wore a condom.

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Yeah, now don't get twisted.

11:39

Blowjob was raw, but condom sex, but vaginal sex was with a condom.

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Sure.

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And I had my reasons for that.

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So, when you wore the condom, you know, did the woman ever, like, protest about that?

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Or were they all like, okay, whatever, that's fine?

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Oh no, I had females get mad.

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No, I had females sit next to me, I can't work with you,

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Bobbie Lucas, The Southern Champ!

12:30

When females started to get fired from their jobs, they went and girls used porn to boost their esporting.

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Boosted price, traffic and everything else.

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So with that being said, I know y'all fans like, okay get to the point mf, okay I'm getting there.

12:49

You need the whole story, you gotta be able to hold the whole thing.

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Smoke the blunt.

12:54

Bobbie Lucas, The Southern Champ!

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It's great.

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So like I said, it was girls went to Hollywood on the East Coast is the independent.

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That's what what you had was a guy like me.

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I was a producer slash mail town.

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Okay, basically damn near close.

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You call me a gatekeeper because my job was to get girls.

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Okay, prep females.

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Okay.

13:36

Okay.

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I don't want no one to tweet sit there and say, oh my God, just say prep.

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We get them ready to work with Hollywood at the same token help them establish their own site and way of making money off of content.

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Part of prepping them is to get them to film, and to film a certain way that would attract these people.

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We submit, I used to get a, I used to get what's called a finder's fee, $200 to $300, $200 to $300 to maybe even $100 to a girl that I actually would submit to somebody.

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Okay.

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At the same token, I help them establish a website.

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My company gets no profit, only I get to do it and use the scene or two.

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The shit they doing down at the content house,

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Right.

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I was doing that.

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Right.

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It's kind of like we're an agent.

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That's kind of like an agent.

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Right.

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Sort of.

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Yeah.

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Trust me.

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You know, old school.

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They say they hate that the gang got away from the agents because the agents plugged him into so much shit.

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It was money.

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Right.

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But you have your connections, I suppose.

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Right.

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You know, once you're doing it, you get connections.

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Yeah.

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Actually, to my cameraman, what really popped it off for me was when I met my camera partner.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Big A.

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I call him A-Bull, you know what I'm saying?

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I can't say his name because he might have baby mommas that still look for their child support, but I digress.

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And um, he had, I didn't know the connection that he had.

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He had connections with the big dogs, plus he even had stuff that was outsourced to him from mid-level companies to record.

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So some of his stuff, people done seen it on DVD and probably still see it to this day.

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From Evasive Angles to West Coast Productions,

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Ruan Willow, The Southern Champ!

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Ruan Willow, The Southern Champ!

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Nowadays, I wish.

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Because all these girls want content.

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So it's kind of like, yeah, it was like, I was your Mr. Everything.

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The only thing you had to do just come down here, fck, smoke a blunt, take some good pictures, and I'll take care of the rest.

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All you gotta do is cash the checks.

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Because the site was not in my name.

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It was in their name.

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Yep.

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I told you it was a whole, it was a whole thought process behind the

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Bobbie Lucas, The Southern Champ!

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Like I said, only people in their age bracket, you know, early 2000s, busty baby doll.

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Her party's up in New York.

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Shouts out to L'Oreal too.

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I hope she see this anyway.

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And she used to throw parties.

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And what she did was each year she threw a strip party.

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Okay.

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Strip VIP party.

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That means you pay a ticket, go in, you get your lap dance, whatever, that ticket allows you to go to VIP with a chick.

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I'm not going to necessarily say what happens in VIP, but they're not there to get autographs, but I digress.

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She, wifey doing her thing.

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I'm pretending I don't know her.

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Okay.

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So people understand why, because if dudes see that with her, they're going to think I'm a pimp, I'm this, that, that.

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So I'm in there doing the same thing.

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I even had, I mean even tipping girls.

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I went over there and tipped them a damn self.

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You feel what I'm saying?

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So at the end of the night, I know, yeah towards the end of the night I go outside to smoke a cigarette.

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And a group of dudes woke up and said, yo man, I know you trying to be incognito nigga, but we know who you is big country.

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Mr. B.C.

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on triple X bruh.

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What?

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And them dudes came over there motherfuckers, one of them gave me weed out this bitch.

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You know what I'm saying?

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He was like, yo man, I watch your shit all the time, bruh.

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You the man.

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You got North Carolina poppin', bruh.

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You know?

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It was to the point like, like even on the escort trip.

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Pimps, hoes, all that shit.

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They knew who the fck I was out here.

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Because as your people knew, they knew the girls that came down out here that I worked with.

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By the way, my photos, all that shit.

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So, yeah.

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My business was to help women make money.

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Right.

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That's very cool.

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Yeah.

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But you're right.

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It's so different now with all the OnlyFans and all these different sites.

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It's like a whole different world compared to that.

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What makes it different is that now we have, what's the best way I can put this?

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You have more people that want to play than to watch.

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Right.

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See what happened with OnlyFans.

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The same way a podcast, a top podcast is a podcast, a true podcast is really about what someone said about the star podcast.

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That's the way porn stars feel when someone wants to star the OnlyFans.

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Right.

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Another OnlyFans, huh?

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So it's like flooded, basically.

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The market is flooded.

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It's like put it this way.

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When a genre is flooded, it cheapens it, it hurts it, it destroys its creativity.

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Sure.

19:34

and like I talk about this on my show I watch 2B I'm a 2B fanatic I see so much porn shit with 2B they ain't even funny even though their sex scenes are damn near pornographic yeah it's close to it they just keep the drawers on I'm just saying right kind of fucked up you could pull the drawers to the side they'd make the illusion I'm just saying right but point being is that um

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We don't tell stories.

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And the porn I grew up on told stories.

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The porn I did told stories, you know.

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And now it's just fcking.

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I mean, don't get me twisted.

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We didn't got this.

20:11

It became so desensitized.

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I hope I said it right.

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That is now extreme because you got BDSM, man.

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You have the fetish kings and everything.

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Trust me, as the game changed, I had to change, but I changed before the game did.

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Because I saw where it was headed.

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For example, when I saw InterRacial was about to happen, this was around the time of Sir J's story I probably know, and Lisa Ann, I started looking for white BBWs.

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Before that was mostly black girls.

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I was already looking into BDSM and stuff like that.

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I saw, oh, there's a market for that.

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Oh, so I started doing BDSMs.

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Sure.

20:50

I've done race play scenes.

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I've done consent, non-consent CDs.

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You know, period.

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But to me it's just me creating a story.

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It's just the ultimate end is sex.

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Yeah, I mean, I think in porn there's different variations of how much stories are.

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Yeah, you see some where there's like zero and then you see others that are more.

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But yeah, I think, you know, I think the story is good.

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I like the story in it personally, but.

21:20

I mean it's like put it this way, like for example, you do the Rod, you do the Rod stories.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We did talk about it on my podcast.

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Yeah.

21:28

Yeah.

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No, but it's, it's the same thing.

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Just mine was visual.

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Yours is like.

21:35

Right.

21:35

You know what I'm saying?

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And see to me, yours is a little bit more impactful because now I got to use my imagination.

21:41

Exactly.

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So it's like with me, I have to make something that is fantasy, but yet

21:51

Not attainable, but relatable.

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Like, but I always put a little commentary.

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Like one of my favorite things I always have done.

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There's a few of them, but this one, I really liked this one.

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It was, I did it with this lady that did Pumper Pads named Jasmine Summers.

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That's one of my top selling models to this day.

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And she was playing a nurse.

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Now here's, me, I hate the cliche bullshit.

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So if you're going to be a nurse, I can't have you just as a nurse because it, okay, so what she was was actually an escort, trust is a nurse because she's going to be in a session being a nurse.

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I'm waiting for a nurse because I'm in pain.

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She got the wrong room though.

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She goes in.

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She comes over to see how I'm in pain.

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She plays the tilt.

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I'm even saying, damn, you're just a little sexist.

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Just be coming here to check on me and stuff.

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So they start grabbing, this, this, this, this.

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So I'm like, all right.

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And then we do the scene.

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Okay.

22:55

Fcking everything.

22:56

By the end of the scene, she gets a phone call.

23:00

The call said, where you at?

23:02

Oops.

23:03

She was like, what room, what room y'all supposed to go to?

23:06

And then she announced the room and said, oh, I'm in the wrong room.

23:09

But here's the other part.

23:11

It peers over to me.

23:13

Yeah.

23:14

Oh, you just getting here.

23:16

Oh, okay.

23:17

Um, give me a second.

23:22

Oh jeez.

23:23

So yeah, it's to me, I always looked at it as I always wanted to be an actor, director, what have you.

23:29

So to me, I looked at it as a way to make something, you know what I'm saying?

23:34

Plus the way that we had to promote it, push it, because you also had DVDs.

23:40

I had DVDs.

23:41

So, you feel me?

23:43

So it's, you wanted to make the story to sell the DVD because you're trying to sell DVD.

23:50

That's what they don't realize.

23:52

When they talk about the money they're making now, no, fck that shit.

23:55

I didn't have to work a nine to five.

23:57

It was good.

23:59

It was good because DVD.

24:01

Trust me, I had to burn them some bitches.

24:03

That is not an easy task.

24:05

I bet not.

24:08

Oh my goodness.

24:10

So shoot.

24:11

So, but I mean, to me, I look at it as it's just easier for people to get in.

24:16

That's the biggest, that's I think the biggest hang up to it.

24:22

And go ahead.

24:23

I'm sorry.

24:24

Oh, I was just going to say, and now it's almost like, since the market is flooded, it's like people need some sort of like amazing thing or some sort of like something that is extra to get people to, to want their content.

24:37

Let me tell you what I noticed and see.

24:41

If you do a business, you see trends as they happen.

24:47

I notice a lot of porn stars are now trying to move like Instagram.

24:55

I know you're listening saying what you mean by that?

24:58

Showing less on their ex or Twitter, whichever one you want to feel like calling it.

25:05

Even on the Instagram and doing the TikTok.

25:09

Because they're starting to figure out the way to make the money is a shock value.

25:13

The reason why I say that, it was a female that I interviewed.

25:16

I didn't even realize she was in the business in 2010 until she said certain companies that she worked with.

25:22

But then I sit there and thought about it and said, Oh, I do remember you, I just never knew your name.

25:28

But I thought she was brand new.

25:29

I thought she was an Instagram model.

25:30

Now Instagram model only fans

25:33

Let's keep going.

25:34

They have one, two, maybe three screw scenes with their little boyfriend or homie that they feel like filming with, you know, Fck it.

25:44

Nothing too serious, you feel me?

25:45

I'm coming from.

25:45

You know, no, Shorty does serious shit.

25:49

And but she don't post it.

25:51

OK.

25:51

You know what I'm saying?

25:53

So now I'm seeing ladies starting to do that because I made a joke.

25:58

I said busting his own business now they've gotten old.

26:04

So they're showing themselves on Instagram in a more covered up, pure way so that they can gain people to go to their OnlyFans.

26:14

Is that kind of right?

26:15

But they can't say OnlyFans because they'll get kicked off if they use that phrase.

26:20

No, that's the crazy part.

26:22

OnlyFans, they can post the OnlyFans link because Super Fat Dubbed that.

26:26

OnlyFans is too

26:29

See, people gotta understand something.

26:30

There has never been a site before OnlyFans that had the traction that OnlyFans had.

26:35

The closest was Pornhub.

26:36

And, no no, Pornhub, this is about, it was here.

26:41

OnlyFans?

26:43

Way up, yeah.

26:44

Trust me, let me make this clear.

26:46

I want you to listen to the two names.

26:48

Pornhub.

26:49

Imagine.

26:51

Yeah.

26:52

Imagine the boxer going down to the ring with Pornhub on his leg.

26:59

Bobbie Lucas, The Southern Champ!

27:00

Bobbie Lucas, The Southern Champ!

27:27

We'll take anything that's free to 8-Pose B for us and we damn sure turn it in for us.

27:34

You don't believe me?

27:37

Yes.

27:38

Okay.

27:38

Yeah.

27:38

Mm-hmm.

27:39

I can understand.

27:41

Right.

27:42

Yeah.

27:43

I mean the image is there and then poof it's gone.

27:45

Right?

27:46

I can't say no more.

27:49

See?

27:49

No, no.

27:50

It's like this.

27:52

We take over the platform but see what we didn't anticipate was

27:56

Onlyfans becoming popular.

27:58

See, I want people to think about this.

28:02

If you're a company, and let's say Jimmy Smack, every person that they name, they say they made a million, they made this Onlyfans, they made this Onlyfans.

28:14

Who released that?

28:16

Who released that?

28:18

It wasn't the person that made it.

28:21

Onlyfans.

28:22

And see what it does was to help devalue the porn star because they needed traffic.

28:27

What's the best traffic?

28:28

You already had the Facebook groups where girls was busting it open on there.

28:32

Twitter, they started busting it open on there.

28:34

Okay, boom.

28:35

It's kind of like a Facebook for porn.

28:39

Right.

28:39

And then I'm going to tell you what's so funny people.

28:42

Let me tell you the reason why the sex workers jumped on.

28:45

I'm going to tell you what it is.

28:47

They had manual payout.

28:48

You know what I'm saying?

28:49

Manual payout.

28:50

That's why they were the only fans.

28:52

It had what, say that again?

28:54

Manual payout.

28:55

Oh yes, it's about the payments, exactly.

29:02

What's happening to some erotica writers right now is that if they're found out that they write this, they're getting cut off by some of the payout processors.

29:12

And see that's because even with, but see that's what I'm saying, it's like anything that is sexual.

29:19

Right.

29:21

always gets attacked.

29:23

You know what I'm saying?

29:24

Sexuality, what have you, you know what I'm saying?

29:26

Yep.

29:27

It always gets attacked.

29:28

It does.

29:29

Oh, for sure.

29:30

It's sad.

29:31

It's horrible.

29:31

Yeah.

29:32

Because the way I look at it is, is that we provide entertainment.

29:37

It is entertainment, regardless of the fact.

29:39

It's not illegal.

29:41

Right.

29:41

It's, ooh, it's immoral.

29:43

What is immoral?

29:45

You know, it, to me, it's like, it's just like some men can't

29:51

Especially black men can't seem to be open sexual with their feelings, with their emotions, all that shit, you know, period.

30:00

Like I said, it was to the point like, trust and believe.

30:03

Dude could not go in the barbershop and say, yo man, me and my girl went to this swing apartment.

30:08

Right.

30:08

And she's, shut up my white dude, man, I was so happy nigga.

30:14

They be like, bro,

30:15

Right!

30:18

You let some dude ram up on your girl, man?

30:22

Fck no!

30:25

You went behind that shit?

30:27

Man, that's some old bitch shit, man.

30:29

Damn, you're cool, man.

30:32

I'd slap the shit out of my wife, man.

30:35

No, for real.

30:37

You feel me?

30:37

So it's kind of like anything that is out of the norm.

30:41

But see, that's the sad part.

30:44

Porn, like I always say this, it is, porn has been normalized to watch, but not, still has not been normalized to be, even though every single mom and dad only fans.

30:54

Isn't that crazy?

30:55

And that, that's kind of like for erotica authors.

30:58

There's some, like, for instance, Amazon will publish erotica, but you can't advertise it.

31:03

So it's like, they're okay with it, but they're not, you know, like they're going to restrict you, but yet they'll, they'll put it out there for you.

31:10

So that's.

31:11

No, I'm going to tell you what's crazy.

31:12

See, I never knew about the books either because see, I knew like Prince Jenna, she wrote her books.

31:18

So I never, I never really gotten deaf on books, audio and all that.

31:23

But when you told me the hell that you deal with for erotic, I said audio.

31:30

But then I should have known because one of the shit that got flagged that was audio was just so happened Shorty was getting pounded.

31:41

The video you could hear her but you didn't see it because like I said I said no I don't

31:51

Bobbie Lucas, The Southern Champ!

32:11

You know it's like why, yeah, why are you censoring audio?

32:16

It's, it's extreme.

32:18

I think it's extreme.

32:18

I don't understand if I'm talking shit about a race, people.

32:22

Right, yeah.

32:24

I'm just, I'm talking about sex.

32:26

I'm like, y'all had a song WAP on the goddamn, kids about to...

32:32

Ah so frustrating you know it's it's like murder and all this stuff is out there.

32:38

Yes there can be out there and they can advertise and all this shit and talk about the natural act of sex and oh no you can't do that it's ridiculous.

32:47

It's I mean the world in general is just this is the most sensitive time ever in the history of the world I'm just saying it's yes sir.

32:57

Because like I said, I knew it was coming when they started to try to be woke in porn.

33:06

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

33:11

I don't want to hear it.

33:12

Hey, Artemis is about BBC, BBC, BBC Slut, Queen of Spades, King of Spades.

33:19

And no, it's, I'm going to tell you the funniest Artemis.

33:25

Now I want y'all to listen to me.

33:26

This is going to be

33:27

Tell me if I'm wrong.

33:30

So people don't understand the BDSM world.

33:32

A queen of spades is a slave.

33:36

OK.

33:37

OK.

33:37

Slaves and BDSM.

33:39

Let's make this clear.

33:41

BDSM.

33:42

I don't feel like trying to tell you what the B and the D and the S and the M stand for.

33:47

Everybody knows, I think.

33:48

But you know by now, you know, watch what is, you know, 50 Shades of Grey, you know.

33:54

Yeah.

33:54

Before that, you could say the Corsican Brothers, but I digress.

33:57

See, people remember that Cheating Charm movie.

34:01

It's a lot of BDSM in the window in the Corsican Brothers.

34:07

I would go watch.

34:09

I'm telling you.

34:12

So, um, but the point being is.

34:16

Man, I forgot where I was going there.

34:18

We were talking about BDSM and.

34:21

People being offended of some shit or something like that.

34:24

Oh yeah.

34:25

Oh, okay.

34:25

Okay.

34:26

Yeah.

34:26

Yeah.

34:26

Okay.

34:26

See, see saying too high.

34:31

No, it's you trying to something that porn made his most money was taboo.

34:38

Yeah, it was that thing.

34:39

You had to go back to Blackheart.

34:40

Yep.

34:41

He went to the bookstore.

34:44

They had the porn books.

34:46

They had black strip.

34:48

You know, I remember they had Playboy in a grocery store.

34:51

Stop playing.

34:55

Yeah, I do remember.

34:57

I do remember.

34:58

See, I mean, I don't know your age, but I remember.

35:03

I remember even when they'd have Cosmopolitan on there, but then they would block it off.

35:08

Like, yeah, it was.

35:10

No, it was on the same thing as Cosmopolitan.

35:12

Think about it.

35:13

It was just Playboy.

35:16

They didn't have the cover.

35:17

Was it new?

35:18

Yeah.

35:19

Or did they have something blocking it?

35:21

I don't know.

35:24

New York and saw a Playboy on the damn newsstand.

35:30

Wow.

35:30

Times have changed.

35:31

Now there'd be no way you'd see that.

35:33

No way.

35:36

How do we get so fcking sensitive?

35:38

That's what I want to know.

35:39

It's like, I don't know.

35:41

I don't get it.

35:42

It's like, it's like we're getting more and more Puritan.

35:46

It's okay.

35:48

This is my theory.

35:51

We're becoming lazier and more violent.

35:54

as a nation.

35:56

And that's it.

35:58

I can understand that perspective.

36:00

Yeah.

36:00

Because if you think about it from your cell phone to social media, I look back, I remember a time, and this show my age, when TV went off.

36:11

You know, people know what I'm talking about.

36:16

You see the American Eagle?

36:22

end of your broadcasting day.

36:25

You feel what I'm saying?

36:27

Uh, Navitv don't go off because we have apps.

36:29

You're programming.

36:31

You know, I mean get to the point like sometimes like sometimes I come downstairs like if I really need me to get some sleep, sleep on the couch.

36:42

If they cut off.

36:42

Because no, because to a certain extent we don't get rest and then on top of that it's like

36:53

We see everything.

36:54

Yeah.

36:55

You know, because I tell anybody, it's kind of like, like the first time you might see, let's say, first time you saw a charger, right?

37:03

Never seen a charger before.

37:04

Have you seen a charger?

37:06

Let's say you bought a charger.

37:07

Next thing you know, you see more chargers.

37:10

Yeah.

37:11

It's on your brain, right?

37:12

Yeah.

37:13

It's kind of like the Matrix with Neo.

37:14

Like, watch out for that face.

37:15

What face?

37:16

Oh, shh.

37:17

Yup.

37:17

So it's like,

37:22

That's the reason why people then became more sensitive because when you see more shit, you become more sensitive to shit.

37:28

Yeah, true.

37:30

You know period.

37:30

I mean, you see more violence, you're going to be more sensitive to it.

37:38

Because it's like, I look at everything, from politics to whatever, you know what I'm saying?

37:45

I ain't about to go into all the other shit because I don't feel like boring y'all to death.

37:50

But no, it's just the way that it is.

37:52

world is that it's it's like to me we live for the we live for a viral moment not for like you feel right you know because even down to the music that being made and like i said i even said hey my man i found some place here on top i don't make one for tiktok and part of that meaning is what he meaning is when you've seen these one minute clips two minute clips i come from a time where we used to give them trailers right

38:20

Once again, you're trying to push a DVD.

38:23

I'm trying to get $30 out of you.

38:26

These motherfuckers are sitting here selling whole sites for $3.

38:29

I'm trying to get 5 scenes in a DVD for $30 out of you.

38:32

These people paying $3 to see about damn near 100, 200 scenes, 300 pics.

38:46

Right, or nothing if they just look at them on social media and don't go through their work, they're doing nothing, it gets them nothing.

38:52

Yeah, I laugh when I see two VIPs, when I see somebody with two VIPs, because it's going to be two only fan pages.

38:58

Yeah.

39:00

Wow, yeah.

39:01

For serious business, the money ain't been right in porn.

39:04

Yeah.

39:04

And see the reason why, like I said, me being in it, me watching it, me doing it, it's kind of like, like one of my favorite podcasts, Joe Bud, I am porn's version of him.

39:17

Do you ever watch your own porn or do you totally not?

39:20

I kind of have no choice sometimes when I have to edit or when I have to load.

39:24

I mean sometimes I look at my shit and be like damn.

39:28

I do miss it though.

39:29

I do.

39:29

I mean I ain't gonna cry.

39:30

I do miss it from time to time.

39:32

Yeah.

39:32

Yeah.

39:34

So you have no regrets doing it it sounds like.

39:36

Oh Fck no.

39:36

Yeah.

39:37

I'm still making money from it.

39:39

Shit.

39:39

That's awesome.

39:41

And stuff.

39:41

Because it's important.

39:42

It's kind of like to anybody that's sitting here.

39:45

OK.

39:45

Someone asked me this right.

39:47

Yeah, exactly.

39:48

So did your family all know that you were doing that?

39:50

Yeah, actually the whole town of Durham to be honest with you.

39:55

Everybody in my job know I do it, including my manager.

40:16

How old is she?

40:17

Yeah she should give two shits she's in her 50s.

40:45

She is doing amazing though.

40:47

She's doing amazing, but... Nah, it's... Go ahead.

40:49

Nah, go ahead with what you gotta say.

40:50

I'm sorry.

40:51

Oh no, I was just gonna say, do you think it's that people treat women and men differently when they find out that they have done any sort of porn content?

40:58

Yeah, it's funny.

40:59

I actually had that conversation with somebody.

41:01

I love podcasting.

41:04

Yes.

41:05

Oh God.

41:06

It's straight up, both sides gets it.

41:09

It's just, women's is more out in the open because y'all are the stars.

41:14

See,

41:15

The same, it like this and I'm not saying this to be, I don't want no one to take this the wrong way.

41:22

Sure.

41:23

Women always talk about equal pay, equal rights, all that shit right?

41:28

Become a porn star.

41:30

Yeah, they make more?

41:33

Women?

41:34

Frequently so.

41:35

Yeah.

41:37

Women make more money in this business per capita than any men.

41:41

Wow, that's pretty amazing actually.

41:42

Because it's more easy to make money than men.

41:45

Wow.

41:45

That's pretty intriguing because I don't know if there's any other profession that that's true in.

41:50

Yeah.

41:54

Yeah.

41:55

Because the thing about it is, that is, I always say this, we, they are the car, they're the car, the male talent steers it.

42:04

Yeah.

42:05

And I tell you, any female, the only way a female could actually go 10 years

42:12

So did you ever have to do things that didn't turn you on and what did you do about it?

42:16

Like how did you get yourself able to do something if it didn't turn you on?

42:35

Yeah, this is funny.

42:36

I imagine getting questions asked to me that I don't ask them.

42:39

Okay, this is funny as fck.

42:43

Well, A, there's an A and B in this.

42:47

A, I always feel that I'm a professional.

42:51

I am there to get content.

42:53

Shorty, the only why she want to fck me and the only why she's there is because she wants to shoot a scene.

42:58

That's one.

43:02

It's a female, now understand I didn't have females that I couldn't vibe, that I didn't vibe well with, so I didn't find attractive.

43:08

But, I will find something about you attractive, and it's on me.

43:14

But, I will say this, women set the tone with the shoes.

43:19

Ah, interesting.

43:21

Yes, they do.

43:22

The way she comes in the room, the way she interacts with the man, the way I do.

43:25

Because, for us, to get the best out of a male talent, he has to feel like he's wanted by you.

43:32

Whether it's slightly or yo I'm going to enjoy working with you or yeah I don't want to fuck.

43:37

You know what I'm saying?

43:39

Phil won't it you know period and he'll reciprocate because one thing it is we don't want to come off as a creep.

43:47

A woman can get away with so much fucking shit on this shit a man cannot.

43:50

Yeah I can I can understand that which is I wouldn't have thought of it before until you know we're talking about it and it makes sense.

43:58

Yeah yeah see so

44:01

To me, that's, I worked through it.

44:03

I done did what was called making the scenes where it was, you know, blowjob and doggie.

44:09

Usually that be after about, now it's, I've worked with somebody that it just didn't work.

44:18

It always ended up being a blowjob scene, but, but either way I get something out of it because it was content.

44:25

You feel what I'm saying?

44:26

and also a lot of time was someone that a lot of time was the ones that that shit didn't happen like that was the ones that I brought to me because like I said my brain works differently I look at you as marketable right I put you on this screen forget fucking you because at the end of the day I know I'm gonna fuck you that's the whole point of why you came down here I could never understand why dudes to dudes now the talents now that they

44:54

Look, dude, you already, she hit you up.

44:57

Excuse me, you hit her up.

44:58

She said, yeah, she's down, whatever.

45:00

No matter how you got your ass in the door, you got the opportunity to fck her without having to woo her, take her out.

45:09

You're not going to remember her real name.

45:11

You're only going to remember her porn name.

45:12

Trust me.

45:12

I do not remember any government names.

45:17

Wow.

45:17

Straight up.

45:18

Yeah.

45:19

I know about a porn name.

45:21

They're illegals.

45:23

When you're shooting a scene and you kind of have a plan of what it's going to be, so is there a significant amount of ad lib where you just decide, okay, that's not working, let's switch?

45:33

Or is it mostly scripted?

45:35

Hey, people gotta understand there's levels to porn, like everything else.

45:40

The highest level, you're dealing with an actual set, film set.

45:44

This is Brazzers, Saudi America, you know, ABA certified people, okay?

45:50

That means you will always see them fckers

45:55

Actually, every year it has a black book of every company.

46:00

From toys, to production, to editing.

46:02

Get your name in there.

46:05

You're good.

46:06

You're in the game.

46:07

Alright.

46:07

Got it.

46:08

So, Don't Shoot, that's Hollywood.

46:15

You have more than one person on that set.

46:18

Yeah.

46:19

And a girl.

46:20

You got the makeup, the catering,

46:22

Right.

46:23

Bigger production.

46:24

The director and the camera guy, don't know how many cameras.

46:29

Oh, the timing, how long position is, you know, it's hot as shit.

46:36

You may have to do a little acting.

46:38

That's the stop and go.

46:40

I opted out of going to Hollywood.

46:42

I had my opportunities but I said no.

46:44

Yeah, I can understand.

46:45

No, I'll tell you what's funny.

46:50

It's not because I saw the, the, uh, the pornocopias, the documentaries, but I actually sat in on an actual shoot shot that way.

46:59

And I said, hell no, I can't do that.

47:01

It was- Too orchestrated, probably, right?

47:05

It was boring.

47:06

Like, it's a porn shoot.

47:08

I'm going outside, smoking blunt.

47:11

Have fun.

47:13

That was the first scene I was off the bed.

47:15

I was like, it was a chick

47:18

Bobbie Lucas, The Southern Champ!

47:36

Little did I know!

47:38

When I hear so many people say they actually like the amateur stuff better.

47:42

They like the stuff that seems more natural and more amateur than this hugely produced stuff where it just seems like fakey and phony.

47:50

No, it's like this.

47:53

People want a story.

47:55

It's like this.

47:56

People want a story with it.

47:57

The point is they want to be relatable.

48:01

The talents have to be able to smooth that out to draw them in.

48:06

Yeah.

48:07

You feel what I'm coming from?

48:07

It's like this, like a scene that, well it was a two-part scene.

48:14

It was called the trailer revenge.

48:16

It starred me, it's got a special breed, curvy hypnotic, shots after her, and Diamond Jewel.

48:23

And basically the premise of it is Diamond Jewel is getting married to special breed.

48:28

Diamond Jewel, please, special breed, fcks, hypnotic, hypnotic, get

48:32

Fck Hypnotic and all that good shit.

48:34

Jules come back, catches them, she's out.

48:37

Faze the Black come, she calls me over, I come over there, what's up?

48:43

She drunk, she tells me what happened, we end up fcked.

48:47

That Faze the Black, they wake up in the bed, Jules wakes her up and say, are you cheating on me bitch?

48:58

You get what I'm saying?

49:00

So to me it's about, I mean the story, you want it to be relatable, you know what I'm saying?

49:05

Now understand because the way porn is now, you can do the cosplay shit, this that and the third, but see the point is it has to be good.

49:11

Right.

49:13

Two, it's coming back to the porn star type cinematic shit because that's going to make your shit stand out more than anything else.

49:21

Right.

49:21

Because now it's saturated with let's just fck.

49:24

Right.

49:26

I'm sucking my boyfriend's dick while he's watching the 49ers game.

49:31

I'm sucking his dick while, I'm riding his dick while he's playing Fortnite.

49:36

You know what I'm saying?

49:38

The Uber driver, you know?

49:42

It's like, you know, and then I don't want to get into the public sex.

49:45

That's just motherfuckers got them get busted open at Macy's.

49:49

Like, I don't want to buy that furniture, yo.

49:52

I don't want your juice on that damn couch.

49:55

I might want to buy that couch.

50:00

That's the thing.

50:03

No, I actually talked to somebody that actually did a scene in the 7-Eleven in Nevada.

50:07

Oh wow.

50:07

And it's free so stop playing.

50:08

Uh huh.

50:10

So, nah, it's just, but see that's the reason why because the storytelling porn somewhat got born because only thing.

50:18

Yeah.

50:19

You know because like I said before it's like when you see that it like this this is some real ass shit.

50:27

Porn made awards for Miss Be Nasty.

50:32

Urban X made an award for Only Fans Girl.

50:34

Duh!

50:39

But I tell people there's no disrespect to Urban X. You kind of disrespectful to the porn stars because you got Mrs. Stone on there.

50:46

Mrs. Stone?

50:48

Ruan should have won an AVN umpteen times years ago.

50:52

She's the one that made it.

50:54

Oh, she's more than a fcking OnlyFans girl.

50:56

She's more than a clip star.

50:57

You feel what I'm saying?

50:58

Yeah.

50:58

So it's like, that's why I said now the porn stars are moving like the Instagram girls because they want to get mainstream appeal and mainstream options and money and opportunity because they saw like what's the girl named Pinky that does the

51:15

The Fetish with the uh like she's a Sims character.

51:19

Oh yes.

51:19

Yeah and they linked all her porn shit right?

51:23

Yeah.

51:23

OnlyFans just popped on.

51:25

But it's the funny part because you don't know you didn't know that she did porn shock value.

51:31

There you go.

51:33

Yeah right for sure.

51:37

Oh, this has been so amazing.

51:38

Is there anything else that you want to talk about or bring up or tell us where your podcast is found and where they can find, even, can, is your stuff on Pornhub or is it not in that place, your, your porn?

51:51

No, my stuff is not, my porn, that now on Pornhub, I'm on Xvideos, MiniBids, Royal Fans, FabHouse, Clips for Sale,

52:01

you know like you know all my links allmylinks.com backslash porn rap star see boom there you go just go there my stuff but now it now here's somebody that wanted to talk to you about that i just wanted to dialogue you about ask ask a question y'all you know it's very interesting it's all very interesting because it's a different look and some stuff i didn't really know about so it's definitely very interesting so um i'm gonna ask you this

52:31

Why do women not buy porn as much as men?

52:36

Well, the quick answer that everyone always says is that men are more visual, but I know a lot of women who like porn.

52:44

Uh-oh, it went black.

52:48

Are you still there?

52:48

Yeah, I'm still here.

52:49

Can you hear me?

52:50

Mine still went black.

52:51

What does that mean?

52:52

Oh, there it's back.

52:53

Okay.

52:53

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

52:54

You was still recording.

52:55

You was still recording on my end.

52:56

I still saw you.

52:58

I'm like, what is going on?

52:59

My screen, maybe it went like into sleep or something.

53:02

I don't know.

53:04

Welcome to my world.

53:07

Zoomed in to Skype.

53:09

There we go.

53:10

I don't feel bad.

53:12

I've never had that happen before.

53:14

That was weird.

53:16

You know, everyone says.

53:17

But what's the long answer though?

53:19

Um, I don't think necessarily that's necessarily true because I know a lot of women who like porn and it tends to be women who are more open sexually and open with their sexuality that like porn than people, women who don't like porn.

53:34

They tend to be more not open sexually, they're

53:38

You know, not, probably not really living their real sexuality.

53:41

They're just hiding it or hiding from it and not accepting it.

53:47

As far as buying it, that's a good question.

53:50

See, I didn't say watch.

53:53

I know they watch.

53:55

Oh Fck yeah.

53:56

I have female fans.

53:58

Don't get it twisted.

53:59

But buy.

54:00

See, like for example, I have, of course I got more male fans.

54:05

Okay, I get that.

54:06

But

54:08

And if you were to probably talk about like erotica you may have more women so maybe it's the whole more story there?

54:16

I don't know!

54:38

I mean I do have men that subscribe.

54:45

Maybe it's maybe it comes from the culture like everyone thinks oh porn is more for men maybe it's a cultural thing I don't really know I guess.

54:56

They would buy an audio.

54:59

More than they'd buy a porn video.

55:00

That's true.

55:01

I think that's 100% true.

55:03

Yeah, they'll buy it before a porn video.

55:05

I think so too.

55:07

It's kind of like, but yet y'all say we the more visual, but they say we the most visual.

55:11

I want y'all to think about that for a second.

55:13

Smoke that over.

55:14

Exactly.

55:17

We the most visual.

55:19

We have to buy the visual.

55:22

They can go buy the audio and the book.

55:25

It's just as good as they got the visual.

55:27

Right, right.

55:28

I think women are more visual.

55:30

There you go.

55:30

Thank you.

55:31

I think women are visual too.

55:32

I think maybe it's just the rap, you know, the reputation that, oh, more men, more men like porn.

55:38

So.

55:39

No, no, what I think is, no, men are willing to, I mean, there's many, I can go down the list of, uh, like I said, for men, if you do porn, yes, suck it up.

55:51

Bobbie Lucas, The Southern Champ!

55:52

Bobbie Lucas, The Southern Champ!

56:21

I'm not doing a dick rating.

56:22

That's out.

56:25

You're out with that business.

56:27

Don't get it twisted.

56:28

I mean, I'm very secure in my manhood.

56:32

But even to the point, like I said, like a woman can get off, make money off of masturbating a man, it's advertising.

56:39

That's true.

56:40

Isn't that true?

56:41

I think that's, wow.

56:43

Yeah.

56:44

So yeah, I mean, I mean, to me that, that's why I always wanted it because I was like,

56:51

If they buy it, it's for their husband for them and their husband to watch.

56:55

Right.

56:56

Oh, it's so interesting.

56:59

Yeah, because it's important, like, I don't know, I used to get emails from a bunch of interracial couples in London that always bought my DVDs when I was selling DVDs.

57:10

They asked me, you gonna turn to London?

57:13

And I'm like, I don't have a passport.

57:16

Ruan Willow, The Southern Champ!

57:32

Right that's an interesting thought but I don't really have the answer but yeah I think that's I think it's true what you said.

57:39

Interesting I don't know what it is maybe they're don't feel they feel like it's too taboo to buy it I don't know because you know they watch it so.

57:48

Well I mean well the short truth is y'all get dicked when you want it we get pushed when it's better.

57:55

That's true.

57:56

So y'all like why do I want to buy the porn I could just go to the bar go get the dick.

58:02

Maybe that's it.

58:03

Yeah.

58:06

That every girl want to use a strap, that every girl want to use a dildo.

58:10

Right.

58:11

That's true.

58:13

Exactly.

58:14

That's a good point.

58:16

Yeah.

58:16

But I mean, it just a little interesting thing.

58:19

That's why I said that women dominate porn.

58:22

And that's just another example of it.

58:24

Right.

58:25

Yeah.

58:26

Anything else you want to know?

58:28

I mean, it's up to you.

58:29

I pop out all day.

58:31

So this has been amazing but we probably should wrap it up soon so I can get it to fit on my slot because I only get a certain amount of time.

58:38

We're on the video on the PodNation TV but when I do it for my for my podcast audio I get as much time as I want but for the PodNation TV video I only get a certain amount of time so we probably should wrap it up but this has been so amazing I just it's been very interesting to hear your perspectives and what you went through and your history with it because it's not something I've really talked with anybody about any guests so it's very interesting so thank you for sharing

59:08

Yeah I mean I like talking about it because I want people to see, this is the main thing I want people to understand and this is what I want y'all to take away.

59:17

We're no different than anybody else we just so happy to fck somebody they don't care.

59:23

Or we use sex for a living or kink or we are entertainers we are providers you know period.

59:31

My mama said this to me, God bless the dead.

59:34

She said, never be ashamed of what you got to do to feed your family.

59:38

She told me that when she found out I did porn, I never looked back.

59:41

Good for her.

59:42

Because some people wouldn't be like that.

59:45

So good for her.

59:46

She gets it.

59:47

Got it.

59:47

Yeah.

59:49

But she did say this too.

59:51

She said she was mad as fck that the dude had to bring the damn laptop.

59:54

She was like, you could have just told me.

59:58

I ain't have to say that shit!

60:02

Alright!

60:03

I bet!

60:04

Well, thank you so much.

60:06

This was amazing and I'm sure we'll chat again at some point.

60:09

So thank you for having me on your show as well.

60:12

Oh, I definitely want you to come back on my show.

60:14

Yeah, for sure.

60:15

Yes.

60:15

Yes.

60:16

Me and you.

60:17

Definitely.

60:18

Talk back and forth to my pod moments because that's what I call the ladies that I, you know, that are podcasters, what have you.

60:25

you know it's something that I took from you know Mandy B you know what I'm saying I would say this beauty put respect on that lady's name really about podcast but yeah you a part of mine because you have a podcast beautiful lady has a podcast people trust and believe when they say she has a face for radio that's not a joke no she's gorgeous so thank you so much and you have an amazing night no doubt you too darling thank you okay bye-bye bye