Oh F*ck Yeah with Ruan Willow

Journey into Erotic Audio & Being a Daddy Dom: InMyHandsAudio's Story

December 29, 2023 Ruan Willow / InMyHandsAudio Season 4 Episode 376
Oh F*ck Yeah with Ruan Willow
Journey into Erotic Audio & Being a Daddy Dom: InMyHandsAudio's Story
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Ep 376: I'm thrilled to welcome my guest, InMyHandsAudio, a renowned narrator of  erotic audio content, to my podcast. The podcast is all about exploring sex and sexuality, and today we're diving deep with InMyHandsAudio. We've been connecting creating audiobooks together for a while now, but this is our first real conversation in person. It's an exciting moment for us all! InMyHandsAudio shares his journey into the world of erotic audio work after his music career ended. He found his unique voice and started posting on Literotica and Patreon. He's also launched a new podcast called the Daddy Dom podcast, exploring DS relationships. Enjoy the hotwife series audiobook excerpts at the end.

Summary
We explore the intriguing world of the erotic audio industry, debunk common misconceptions about Daddy Dom relationships, and underscore the pivotal role of trust and communication in BDSM dynamics. InMyHandsAudio also introduces us to his latest venture, the Daddy Dom podcast, a platform dedicated to sharing his personal journey and enlightening listeners about the topic.
Key Highlights
-He embarked on his journey in the erotic audio industry in 2017, seeking a creative outlet post their music career.
-His latest venture is the 'Daddy Dom podcast', a platform where he shares his experiences and offer insights into the Daddy Dom lifestyle.
- He underscores the significance of trust and communication in BDSM dynamics, emphasizing that a sub consciously chooses their Dom, who in turn is responsible for creating a safe and trustworthy environment.
- The podcast aims to debunk misconceptions about Daddy Dom relationships and serves as a platform for open discussion and education.
Action Steps
- Educate yourself about the Daddy Dom lifestyle and BDSM dynamics to better understand and support those who practice it.
- Practice open and honest communication with your partner(s) about your desires, boundaries, and consent.
- Explore your own sexuality and kinks in a safe and consensual manner.

Connect LINKS: Patreon:  DaddyDomPodcast

Twitter (X): DaddyDomPodcast

Instagram: DaddyDomPodcast

In My Hands Audio: InMyHandsAudio

https://www.patreon.com/InMyHandsAudio

Books narrated by Ruan & InMyHandsAudio
Hotwife: Sharing His Adventurous Wife https://books.ruanwillowauthor.com/sharinghisadventurouswifefirsttimewifeshareittybittyvixen
Sharing His Gift Twice https://books.ruanwillowauthor.com/sharinghisgifttwiceusedbytwomen
Decadent Erotica https://books.ruanwillowauthor.com/decadenteroticaaudiobook



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Hello, everyone. This is Rue and Willow of the Oh, Fuck Yeah! with Rue and Willow podcast.

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And I'm super excited to talk to my guest today.

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On my podcast, I talk about sex and sexuality, erotica fiction, and I have guests on that

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talk about sex or sexuality in some way, shape or form.

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Today, I have in my hands, Audio, who I have narrated books with and we have a lot of

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more books coming.

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So I'm so excited.

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Welcome.

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I'm so excited to talk with you.

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Thank you so much. I am super excited to have Bia here as we have always interacted through

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you know email and our voice clips but never have had a conversation in person so this is super exciting.

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It is, it's so much fun.

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I was thinking that too.

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It's like, we've always conversed through email or, you know, on, on Twitter or

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something like that's just, it's really cool to be able to talk with you.

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It's like super fun.

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Yay.

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So tell us what you do and where people can find you.

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First of all.

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Yay!

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Wow. Well, uh, I started doing erotic audio type work back in 2017. So we're coming up to almost

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year seven of doing.

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Thanks for watching.

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Wow.

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I did it, started it with just kind of on a lark. I was finishing my, I had finished my music career

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and I was just looking for a creative outlet. So I started doing some, you know, suitable for work

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voice stuff, but was really, it wasn't really creative. It wasn't really, you know, getting

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where I was at. I was just getting out of a, a relationship and trying to explore my own sexuality

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as well. And I was on Twitter one day and came across this kind of like ASMR kind of erotic,

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you know, type of person. And I went down that rabbit hole and out of the blue, I just decided,

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you know, I'll send, you know, send this person, you know, a clip of my voice and say, Hey, if you

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ever want to do something together, blah, blah, blah, blah. Never heard from her for about two

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weeks. And then about two weeks later, I heard from her and she said, listen, I sent this audio

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to you from, uh, from, from you to, um, about three or four of my friends. And they all said,

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your voice is dangerous. So I tried and I was listening to, I guess it was literotica time

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where I was posting some things, some of my written work. And so I posted some stuff on there. I was

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listening to all the audios that were like 10 minutes, 15 minutes plus. I even get my audios

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past three and a half minutes. And it was like, where do they come up with this content? How do

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they get, how do they go so long? Right. And again, like, you know, over time you get, you get

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better at it. You get, uh, you know, your imagination flows and you're getting, you know,

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broader sexuality of yourself and, and of others. And it just, it just evolves over time. And that's

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where I got my start. And, you know, now in my hands, I have a Patreon account at patreon.com

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backslash in my hands.

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Yeah.

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one.

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Hey.

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Hmm.

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Yeah.

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I've started a new project, which is a podcast, kind of like what we're doing

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here called the Daddy Dom podcast.

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And I'm super excited about that.

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I just launched that in November and you can find that on

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Spotify and Apple podcasts.

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So I'm super excited to see where that project and that little side thing goes.

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And I'm always looking for new and things, exciting things to do, such as

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at narrating for some of your books.

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Yes. Oh my gosh. I have so much to say about all of that. First of all,

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I definitely, your voice is dangerous. People, you know,

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especially women love your voice and you know, it's true.

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Once you start you're doing little snippets,

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but what's so funny to me about that is I started on Twitter too and I

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started just posting just posts that were just like text

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about different, you know,

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just erotic things and I started doing some images and then one day it was

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around Christmas time. I said, you know, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year.

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It was a simple total post and everyone was like, I love your voice.

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And I was like, what? Like I was confused. I was surprised.

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And so it started to evolve from there.

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I started to read those texts instead of just typing them and it just

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completely exploded.

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And I think it's so cool that you started this podcast because it's so much fun.

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It's such a fun kink. I think it's extraordinarily sexy and intense.

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So tell us what made you choose this particular

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Daddy Dom arena?

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Well, you know, as I say, you know, um, becoming kind of a daddy Dom, I was never that, you know,

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I was always, you know, in service to other people, uh, you know, being an entertainer

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and, uh, being in the spotlight and the backstage of, of entertainment and whatnot.

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I was always kind of servicing other people, servicing the crowd, servicing, you know,

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painters and stuff like that. I never really, you know, I had confidence in, in being a performer,

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but in my personal life, I didn't have much confidence. And, you know, I was in a relationship

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that actually just opened up my eyes to a whole other world of things.

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You know what?

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Hmm.

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I wanted to, with the podcast, I wanted to kind of share my journey, not with just the

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in my hands audio, but all the mistakes I've made, you know, becoming, you know, the person

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I am today, all the positive things, all the things I can relate to all the things that,

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you know, that we enjoy in a DS, you know, DDLG relationship, and my perspective as a

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daddy Dom, here's one of the things that I that made me a better daddy Dom in my life.

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And that was listening and the experiences of subs.

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No, you know, myself, but no, no, your know, your partner.

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So listening to the experiences of other littles other subs in this community really made me

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understand what it was I was supposed to be and what I wanted to be for my partners

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in my, in my, in my life and in my audios.

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And so, you know, what better way to express that than to combine, you know, my little

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tidbits of, you know, Hey, here's who I am like it or not.

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And it was as attach a related audio that I've done in the past that relates to the

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subject at hand.

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And you know, it's just a format that I think people will like it.

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There are no, none of the podcasts or episodes are over 30 minutes when, you know, 45 and

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20 minutes.

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So I want to keep them in bite size, you know, you know, portions, nothing like a, you know,

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a Joe Rogan podcast, it's like three hours long.

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I just want to keep them bite size that you can do when you're brushing your teeth, you

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know, you know, driving to work or something like that, that you can carry that thought

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throughout the day and kind of digest it and kind of, you know, make it your own sort of

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thing and have questions there afterwards.

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And it was just my way of expressing myself and my journey.

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Hmm.

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There's

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I think that's amazing and I think it's just wonderful that, you know, you're,

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you're expressing yourself and you're including things you've learned along

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the way in your journey, because I think this is something that some people

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really don't necessarily understand.

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Like if they aren't a part of this particular kink or this particular world,

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they have certain views of it and some may be, some may be negative,

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some may be positive.

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What do you feel is the biggest challenge in dealing with that?

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Or do you mostly run into people who already know what the kink is and

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are interested in it?

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Both actually, you know, I think a lot of people have a problem with the term daddy

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Yeah, a lot of people in you know outside of I'll say in the vanilla world

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You can't relate to using that in a relationship or a sexual term. It just means something completely different

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They have no idea because they've never been exposed to that or it's just not something of interest to them and you know, right

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Okay, you know that's totally fine, you know as long as you're you know, as long as you don't you know

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Try to put in your input without any education educate yourself on it and then what no problem

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I'll have a great discussion with you

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but if you haven't educated yourself on it then just say

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Not my thing and you can go away and I can go my way and we can be happy that way

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But chiming in without any education or you know getting the information for yourself

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Yeah, kind of how do you how do you how do you have a conversation that way you can't so I get both sides

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you know and the ones who are into that kink or into that type of lifestyle or relationship who can relate and

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You know, I think you know with the DS relationships and in scenarios and interactions that we have again

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There are that in itself is so diverse

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Yes, so individualistic. It's just like everything else

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So, you know my position on you know

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How I am and how I interact may not be the same as your ideals or you know

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Joe's ideals or whosoever's ideals, you know, you might have a different perception of what a daddy-dom is

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Outside of what I am and that's okay, too

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You know, I just wanted to give my perceptions and my you know

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Observations of myself and the things that I've learned over time

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Yeah.

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I'm trying

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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And I think this is why people need to shed their judgments because, again,

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there's such diversity in there.

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Just because one is one way doesn't mean they're all that way, you know?

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But a lot of people do have judgments with that.

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And I've run into that with writing some books, too,

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because I have written books and stories in this particular genre.

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And I've added things in the bottom.

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Like, you know, this is referring to leader in the bedroom.

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Like, I have to explain it because some people will review the work and attack it.

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Like you said, being uneducated on what it actually is or means judgments.

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And so it really is difficult presenting such content to the world

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because there are people that are just they're uneducated.

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Well, I think part of that, the, the other side of, of doing a

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podcast, like the daddy Dom podcast is to bring people in step-by-step

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into education and see someone else's perspective on this and listen

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to what they have to say on it.

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It's a step.

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It's a step in the right direction.

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You know, if you throw someone, you know, all the stuff at them

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and it's extreme and whatnot.

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Yeah, of course I would be turned off too and run away as well.

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No, doing, you know, a podcast of getting into the, you know, the, the

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things that, you know, matter like, you know, trust and, and care and

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all those things, and those steps are important to say, you know, this

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isn't what it might seem in, you know, in porn or in social media or

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something like that, with all the fake Doms and fake subs that are out

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there, who are just looking for maybe attention or something like that.

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This is actually real stuff.

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And to have a, you know, a venue and a forum, which, you know, I can

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hopefully, you know, bring people in step-by-step with baby steps and

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show them, Hey, you know, a Dom isn't this, you know, nasty, aggressive,

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you know, beating person is actually cares and loves and, and wants to

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be, you know, that, that pinnacle of support.

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pro

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Of course.

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and care.

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Oh, absolutely. And even, yeah, just, you know, there's such diversity in kink,

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but there's huge diversity in daddy doms, too.

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I mean, there's some that are more into BDSM and might be more harsh and

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disciplinary than you go all the way down to one, you know, some that are more

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into pleasure and caretaking.

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I mean, it's just this giant gradient.

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But people, yeah, people who aren't educated don't understand that either.

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Yeah. And you can have, you know, I like anybody, you know, you can wear different hats at different

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times. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Be that, you know, pleasure Dom on Tuesday through Wednesday.

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And then, you know, on the weekend, you know, you might just want to take out some, you know,

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frustration and aggression and have some really rough sex. So I think you can incorporate all

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those things. And that's why you can't be just one thing, you know, you can't, you know, people

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like to put things into categories. You know, our functionality is as humans works better that way,

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even though it's all a gray area, we like to make things black and white for ourselves until we get

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more educated and find out what it is that attracts you to a certain thing. And that's

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what it's all about. It's finding your individuality within a certain realm.

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Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

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Oh, absolutely. And I think that's so true.

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I mean, just like our sexuality, it's not, it's not narrow.

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It's wide and they can visit different places and different scenarios.

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And even if we visit at one time, doesn't mean we have to do it again.

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Or maybe we just want to keep it in one area of our lives.

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It's so much more diverse and fluid than a lot of people seem to realize.

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Yeah, and my hat's off to those who have the courage to explore that for themselves,

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you know, because it's really an internal journey that you were expressing externally.

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And to have that, you know, courage to come out of your shell and

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show that inside of you externally, it takes a lot of power.

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It does. I used the word earlier, trust, I think, probably, I don't know.

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What do you think? Is that the top most thing that is needed in a daddy-dom relationship?

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Absolutely. And you have to remember, you know, a dom does not choose their sub. A sub chooses

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their dom and it is based on that trust. It is the pinnacle. If your sub does not trust the dom

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that they're with, then they will not submit to that person. Period. That's true. That complete

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level of trust in order to submit to their dom. And so even though the dynamic, you know, on its

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surface looks like the dom has all the power and has all role, it is actually quite the opposite

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where it is the sub who is giving of themselves to the dom. The dom does not take. The dom just

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receives.

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period.

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And so many people don't understand that.

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They see the Dom, people in the vanilla world especially,

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they just see the Dom as someone who's domineering,

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maybe even abusive, like they're deciding everything,

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they're a dictator, and it's completely the opposite.

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Yeah, exactly, exactly. You know, it all depends on the, the dynamic you have between your dom and

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sub, but remember that, you know, the sub is giving access, you know, permission for this

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interaction to take place. Without that, dom has no power and the dom is not their dom. You know,

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there's always that saying, you know, I'm a sub, I'm just not your sub and doms don't have to

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understand that. And I hope, you know, I hope doms listen to my podcast and get a better understanding

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of what it takes to be, you know, truly a dom, whether it be a daddy dom or other type of dom,

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is that it's, it's not, you know, all about, you know, the whips and chains and control and all

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that stuff. It's actually providing a safe place where your sub can feel safe and trustworthy with

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you and therefore have the interactions that follow after that.

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Yes.

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I'm really glad you said that because when I think of when I thought of your

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podcast, I thought of just subs wanting to listen to you.

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I hadn't thought about other Daddy Doms listening to you to learn and be exposed

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to what you know and what you've been through.

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Like that's, that's really, I mean, that makes it a full round thing, but

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honestly, I had thought of it just as the subs wanting to listen to what you say

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and be, you know, every, you know, glued to everything you say, but yeah, that

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is, that is so true.

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No, I just recently got a series of direct messages from a listener and who is in a relationship

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who is now trying to, you know, expand their relationship into a DS type of relationship

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as well.

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And they both listened to my podcast.

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Nice.

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No.

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And what, you know, every time I think, you know, am I doing anything that makes it makes

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it difficult, you know, and I get some some some reply like this and a comment saying,

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you know, I just had my partner listen to your podcast or one of your audios and we

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had the best sex afterwards.

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I'm like.

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Mmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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Nice.

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field.

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Oh, nice.

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That's amazing. I'm so glad I didn't touch this one or two people that way. I, I don't

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care about anything else. And I think that's what it's about. You know, it's again, communication

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between two people before anything starts, before anything happens, you have to talk

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about it. You have to be on the same page. You know, the hard yeses, the hard no's, the

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soft yeses, the hard yes, the hard no's. You would like to explore what your both your

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interests are. And I think, you know, part of being a dom is, is pleasing your sub is more,

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the more you can please yourself, the more the sub please you, right? Oh yeah. Again, exploring

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together all these things as a couple and individually, I think makes you a stronger

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person in the end.

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Talk about it.

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You have to talk about it.

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Oh, yeah.

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Again.

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A hundred percent.

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And isn't it wonderful, like you said, to be that catalyst for those two to have the great sex?

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Like that is just, that's like gold.

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Like that's just.

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blows my mind, makes me happy.

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You like my my heart has an orgasm every time that happens.

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That's good.

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It's just a life hack.

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That's what we're talking about.

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I love it.

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I love that.

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That's so true.

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That is so true.

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It's so amazing.

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One thing I wanted to ask you as I was listening to what you were saying, I was thinking about

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those people that maybe didn't talk about stuff and someone tried something that was

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a no.

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Do you think people can come back from that and how?

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Yeah, you know, I think it all just all, you know, comes down to inexperience. And remember,

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I was there too. I was very inexperienced. I had no idea what a DS relationship was,

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I had no idea what a daddy Dom was. I was there too. And I made a plethora of mistakes.

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As I was innocent to this, this lifestyle is innocent to this type of kink. And yeah,

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I mean, but you're going to make mistakes. And you can't beat yourself up about them. You have

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to say, Well, I Jesus, wow, I didn't know that. That was disastrous. Maybe it's gonna be better

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afterwards. But I think if you come at it from an angle of you, you simply care about the people,

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the person that you're in, or persons that you're interacting with, or having a scenario with,

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or even a relationship within the DS dynamic, if you come at it with a level of care,

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then obviously, you know, you're going to get positive reaction, even in a negative scenario,

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you know, is like an oopsie. It's sort of, you know, didn't Yeah, I didn't know, I didn't know

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how to react or do that or whatnot. I think you're going to have a, you know, positive reaction,

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regardless, if you come out, it was like, I know best. And I know what I'm doing, even though if

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I'm fucking up horribly, then, yeah, you're gonna, you're gonna be out on the porch pretty soon,

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buddy. You know, it's, it's not. Yeah. So I think you have to come at it from a level of,

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Hey, I'm gaining experience, I might not know everything. But I want to

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Hmm.

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Sorry.

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Oh, yeah.

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There's a big difference between acknowledging that and just shrinking back in denial and either denying you did it or pretending you didn't, you know, like that's the showing that you care.

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There's no, it's not in that scenario.

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Well, I think there's a level of, of, uh, personal embarrassment.

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And so imagine, you know, or a girl coming in as a dom and, you know, but

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they're new, but they've seen things and read things and they think they know how

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they should act and whatnot and it doesn't quite work out well, man, I would

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be, I have experienced that embarrassment, you know, and so you add up with, you

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know, a greater, you know, ego and you really have to keep the ego at the door,

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you know, you, you have to really kind of be small within yourself and say, I'm

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new at this, I want to try these things.

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And I think if you, if you, if you put it in the envelope of this is something for

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us to experience, me to experience, I think you'll have a better interaction,

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you know, because you are in conversation, you are in communication, you know, before,

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during, and after what was, what did hit the mark, what didn't hit the mark and.

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And grow from there.

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If you come at it from just an experience of like, you know, I think I know, and

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this is, I'm doing this for my pleasure, missing the mark right off the bat.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Oh, for sure.

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And I think it's pretty hard to come back from that because that other person

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is always going to be wondering, are they, you know, are they doing this for

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themselves?

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Yeah, yeah. Do they have my best interests at heart? No, not, you know, they're doing it for

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their own, you know, whatever the sadomasochism or whatever that case may be or power trip or

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whatever the case may be. And, and that's just not the dynamic of the true dynamic of, of a DS

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relationship. And yeah, now I I'll be honest, I have, I have failed miserably at that and,

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you know, lost a, I wouldn't say a relationship, but, but an interaction, a scenario I lost out

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pretty big on that because I missed, I didn't miss step in a bad way. I just didn't hit the

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mark. And I think it was just based on my inexperience of, of what I knew at the time.

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But, you know, you roll with the punches, you grow, you take that experience with you and you

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say, Hmm, what did I, you have to sit self-reflection, right? What did I do? What was,

00:23:03.770 --> 00:23:09.130
what was, what did I do wrong in this situation that I can improve on and make myself better?

00:23:09.130 --> 00:23:13.450
And, you know, again, going back to the Daddy Dom podcast, that's what it's all about. It's

00:23:13.450 --> 00:23:22.330
about how can I be the best Daddy Dom for you? I'm still learning after, you know, 10 years,

00:23:22.330 --> 00:23:29.850
I am still learning what that is. And so I've started, Oh no, go ahead. I've had the opportunity

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to talk to other, you know, Doms and Daddy Doms who are much more experienced than I am, you know,

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and it's been that in itself. I think, you know, Doms themselves feel, I think that we feel a

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little bit isolated and a little bit more, you know, it's something that we don't talk amongst

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ourselves, but I think more of us should. And with the interactions and the conversations I've had

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with other Doms and Daddy Doms like myself has been such a world of information and gratification

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and ratification that I am doing the right thing, that I am on the right track for myself, you know.

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Hmm.

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So you started, oh no, go ahead.

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But I-

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Oh, yeah, absolutely.

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So I think that's valuable to say, too, like you started this journey long

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before you started doing any audio, right?

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Like this was something you were already a journey you were already on.

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That's correct.

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I think that's just think that's valuable for people to know because, you know, some

00:24:31.830 --> 00:24:36.730
people just, you know, experience matters, not that you can't not have experience, but

00:24:36.730 --> 00:24:42.150
it does have, like you said, you've learned, you've experienced, you've been around more

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things because you've been doing it longer, even longer than you've been doing the audio

00:24:46.530 --> 00:24:47.030
for it.

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Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, if I jumped into this without knowing anything, I'd be pretty bad at it.

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You know, I wouldn't have any point of reference. So I think you have to gain some experience and

00:25:02.630 --> 00:25:07.590
point of reference before you actually start, you know, you're barking out nonsense out of your

00:25:07.590 --> 00:25:13.030
mouth. So yeah, again, it goes back to the education, educate yourself, you know, get

00:25:13.030 --> 00:25:17.670
experience for yourself, and then maybe you can have, you know, some input on this topic.

00:25:17.670 --> 00:25:19.670
at it.

00:25:19.670 --> 00:25:20.950
So, you have.

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So when we're talking about daddy Dom little girl, is that something that you,

00:25:26.390 --> 00:25:28.630
that you delve into? Cause I know there's different, again,

00:25:28.630 --> 00:25:31.750
there's different levels of daddy Dom. Some do the little girl things,

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some don't, some say littles, some say just good girl.

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Where are you on that gradient?

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I think I'm on the middle ground of that gradient completely swayed one way or the other, but

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I'm definitely on the middle ground of that.

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I find myself more of a, I guess, I guess the best scenario I would consider myself,

00:25:53.749 --> 00:26:00.190
which is funny because I just recorded a podcast for the Daddy Dom podcast right on this, this,

00:26:00.190 --> 00:26:08.230
this, this subject is I being the teacher, student, yeah, the instructor, that's what

00:26:08.230 --> 00:26:15.390
I relate to most, you know, is, is being, you know, that one who guides, who teaches,

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who nurtures.

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And I think that's what I relate to most now, that doesn't mean I have other facets of me

00:26:21.030 --> 00:26:25.790
that I like to explore, because I do like to explore them all.

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But I think on a day to day basis, I think that's who I am.

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I'm very, you know, I'm very easygoing, you know, I'm very jovial, sometimes even, you

00:26:35.710 --> 00:26:39.230
know, I'd say juvenile.

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So I think that's what I would relate to most as a, as a Daddy Dom.

00:26:43.470 --> 00:26:43.970
you

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Mm.

00:26:45.510 --> 00:26:46.010
you

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So interesting, and when you, I think part of what people don't like too, yeah, like

00:26:51.730 --> 00:26:57.090
you mentioned the whole people not liking the daddy, they may not like the little girl,

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and people on the outside may see that as like some sort of incest, which it's not at

00:27:03.450 --> 00:27:08.890
all, but I think some people on the outside that don't really understand it might see

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it that way.

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Absolutely. And, and, and again, it's just comes from a, and I don't like to say the word ignorance,

00:27:17.410 --> 00:27:22.210
but it is, I mean, it's, it's a harsh, you're just, you're just, you're just not, you know,

00:27:22.210 --> 00:27:27.970
educated on this subject, you know, you know, being, you know, and there's so many facets of

00:27:27.970 --> 00:27:32.610
being a little on the sub side, you know, there's, there's all everything from, you know, age

00:27:32.610 --> 00:27:40.610
regression to just feeling like you just need to be, you know, have a position. So it is a power

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dynamic, a DS relation. What style of power dynamic do you like, you know, and it makes you feel

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comfortable. And in the, you know, the DDLG, you know, realm, I would say coddling, cuddling,

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cared for, you know, princess, pedestal praise kink is a big one in that as well. And I think

00:28:05.490 --> 00:28:10.210
all those things kind of, you know, gel in that area. And yeah, it has absolutely nothing to do

00:28:10.210 --> 00:28:16.050
with, you know, you know, family sex or anything like that. It's actually the complete opposite

00:28:16.050 --> 00:28:22.930
is it has to do more of the, you know, the teacher student, you know, that type of relationship where

00:28:22.930 --> 00:28:28.690
you have, you know, someone who is, you know, possibly older, more experienced, I would say,

00:28:28.690 --> 00:28:34.610
who is, you know, teaching, guiding, learning, you know, and setting on that and as well as,

00:28:34.610 --> 00:28:40.290
you know, promoting and phrasing as well. Those, all those things kind of encompass into the DDLG

00:28:40.290 --> 00:28:43.650
as general, I would say generally into the DDLG kind of kink.

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Oh, I don't.

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Yeah.

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That is bad.

00:28:45.830 --> 00:28:46.910
Yeah, absolutely.

00:28:47.150 --> 00:28:47.830
And see all those things.

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And Praise Cank is a huge one.

00:28:49.990 --> 00:28:53.070
And I think I saw recently where I was scrolling through your

00:28:53.070 --> 00:28:56.870
stuff, how Daddy Doms can have a Praise Cank too, right?

00:28:56.870 --> 00:29:01.670
Absolutely. I mean, you know, we're human. We need to know when we're doing good.

00:29:02.870 --> 00:29:06.470
I want to know if I've done something good. I also want to know what I'm, you know, like I said,

00:29:06.470 --> 00:29:11.030
you know, my inexperience has had some disastrous results, but I also want to know when I'm doing

00:29:11.030 --> 00:29:16.630
a good thing. And again, communication is key to that, you know, and hey, I liked when you,

00:29:16.630 --> 00:29:21.990
you know, I liked when you fucked me this morning. Okay. Noted. We're having morning sex every day.

00:29:22.710 --> 00:29:30.390
Exactly. You know, I liked when you paraded me through the restaurant to our, to our, to our,

00:29:30.390 --> 00:29:37.430
to our tables. Subs also have to, you know, give that positive reinforcement to their dom

00:29:38.070 --> 00:29:43.030
because them, they're going to get more of that. You know, if you want more praise,

00:29:43.030 --> 00:29:48.470
if you want more of something, then tell the person that you are getting it from that you

00:29:48.470 --> 00:29:53.750
want more of it. So show you have to show that. And, and I love that that's the type

00:29:53.750 --> 00:29:56.870
of feedback I want to get. So I become a better daddy dog.

00:29:56.870 --> 00:29:57.370
Bye.

00:29:57.370 --> 00:29:59.370
Exactly.

00:29:59.370 --> 00:30:01.730
show.

00:30:01.730 --> 00:30:09.030
Right, like you really can't have that kind of relationship with someone who isn't going to talk to you about what they like or what they like in sex.

00:30:09.030 --> 00:30:11.530
It just, it can't, it just doesn't work at all.

00:30:11.530 --> 00:30:15.930
No, but I think you have a lot of people who are reserved on this subject. They haven't opened up.

00:30:15.930 --> 00:30:16.970
Yes.

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So it's difficult for them to open up to someone else.

00:30:19.930 --> 00:30:20.330
It is.

00:30:20.330 --> 00:30:23.130
It is, but that's the trust. You need that trust there.

00:30:23.130 --> 00:30:24.130
Absolutely.

00:30:24.130 --> 00:30:29.710
The exploration comes from within first before you can, you know, have it, you know, go externally.

00:30:29.710 --> 00:30:33.190
So it is, and a lot of, you know, a lot of people come through, you know, a background

00:30:33.190 --> 00:30:34.670
of trauma and whatnot.

00:30:34.670 --> 00:30:36.470
And again, it's baby steps.

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Give yourself the breath of time.

00:30:38.950 --> 00:30:39.950
Don't rush it.

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You know, give yourself the breath of time for me.

00:30:41.910 --> 00:30:45.270
You know, I, I'm not going to lie, I'm 55 years old.

00:30:45.270 --> 00:30:49.550
I didn't come into this realm until I was in my mid forties.

00:30:49.550 --> 00:30:50.550
There's time.

00:30:50.550 --> 00:30:51.550
Yes.

00:30:52.550 --> 00:30:57.590
You know, give yourself the space, give yourself the place, you know, give yourself the time

00:30:57.590 --> 00:31:00.070
to experience it on your own terms.

00:31:00.070 --> 00:31:00.910
Yes.

00:31:00.910 --> 00:31:05.550
I love that you said that, and I think a lot of people don't feel comfortable

00:31:06.050 --> 00:31:10.050
exploring their sexuality, at least in our country and in the U.S.,

00:31:10.410 --> 00:31:13.610
until they are middle aged, and some of them still aren't even then.

00:31:13.610 --> 00:31:18.750
But it's more common to see it in middle age than it is in younger people.

00:31:18.750 --> 00:31:25.550
Absolutely. I think we're going to see a big change in that in the coming decades. We have

00:31:25.550 --> 00:31:33.070
this new generation who's been brought up on the internet, have been brought up with broad scope of

00:31:33.710 --> 00:31:41.230
very accessible sex through the internet. And good and bad, but I think that generation is

00:31:41.230 --> 00:31:47.950
going to figure out how to manage all of that. And so I always noticed that in those younger

00:31:47.950 --> 00:31:54.110
crowds bringing up sex, bringing up different kinks, bringing up different genres, pretty

00:31:54.110 --> 00:32:00.430
commonplace. It's not boo anymore. It's pretty open. And I think that's one of the positive

00:32:00.430 --> 00:32:08.830
sides of all this internet and exploration and accessible sex and whatnot is people are talking

00:32:08.830 --> 00:32:17.230
about it. People are open to that subject and they're not afraid. Like where I came from,

00:32:17.230 --> 00:32:23.950
where it was very taboo. So I think that is one of the most positive things about having

00:32:23.950 --> 00:32:30.430
the internet and having sex very accessible is that people are more likely to talk about it

00:32:31.789 --> 00:32:37.230
and have conversations about it rather than hide in their room and pretend.

00:32:37.230 --> 00:32:37.730
Right.

00:32:37.730 --> 00:32:38.230
True.

00:32:38.230 --> 00:32:38.730
Right.

00:32:38.730 --> 00:32:42.370
Yeah, I mean, just think about all the different, you know, sexual orientation

00:32:42.370 --> 00:32:47.050
labels we have now that is commonplace for younger people and older people are

00:32:47.050 --> 00:32:51.570
still struggling, some older people are still struggling with accepting all of

00:32:51.570 --> 00:32:51.770
that.

00:32:51.770 --> 00:32:56.610
Like I've run into people who say, why do I have to say she, her, I'm a woman.

00:32:56.610 --> 00:33:01.730
Why do I have to say she, her, and right there already, you can see the

00:33:01.730 --> 00:33:06.450
difference in someone who is reluctant to even say, why do I have to say she,

00:33:06.450 --> 00:33:07.130
her, you know?

00:33:07.130 --> 00:33:11.410
I tried to negate all of that by saying beautiful people.

00:33:11.410 --> 00:33:12.410
Yeah.

00:33:12.410 --> 00:33:14.250
I always, I always want to say hello, beautiful people.

00:33:14.250 --> 00:33:18.810
Well, you can't deny any of that, right?

00:33:18.810 --> 00:33:19.810
Meet someone.

00:33:19.810 --> 00:33:25.370
I asked them their name and address them by their name continuously through all that conversation.

00:33:25.370 --> 00:33:32.050
So that negates all the pronouns completely, because I, I am, I'm giving you the highest

00:33:32.050 --> 00:33:35.530
form of respect by calling you your name.

00:33:35.530 --> 00:33:36.530
Yeah.

00:33:36.530 --> 00:33:42.130
You know, that and it's about humans being interactive thing with humans.

00:33:42.130 --> 00:33:43.130
You are human.

00:33:43.130 --> 00:33:44.170
I am human.

00:33:44.170 --> 00:33:45.930
That's how we are.

00:33:45.930 --> 00:33:48.490
And let's interact in a humanic way.

00:33:48.490 --> 00:33:52.610
It's, you know, so I will address you by your name, you'll address me by my name, and we'll

00:33:52.610 --> 00:33:53.610
have a great time.

00:33:53.610 --> 00:33:55.410
And we're beautiful people.

00:33:55.410 --> 00:33:58.210
You know, I don't care what gender you are.

00:33:58.210 --> 00:34:05.010
I don't care what you, you know, identify as, you're a beautiful person, just like everyone

00:34:05.010 --> 00:34:08.770
else on earth, and I will accept you as that.

00:34:08.770 --> 00:34:14.010
And however you relate to yourself internally or externally, that's fine.

00:34:14.010 --> 00:34:15.010
That is wonderful.

00:34:15.010 --> 00:34:18.010
I'm so glad that you were empowering yourself with that.

00:34:18.010 --> 00:34:22.890
For me, it's one on one interaction with the human being I have in front of me.

00:34:22.890 --> 00:34:23.610
Yeah.

00:34:23.610 --> 00:34:25.510
That is a great way to look at it.

00:34:25.510 --> 00:34:29.250
And identifying that person as just that person.

00:34:29.250 --> 00:34:33.170
They don't have to explain themselves with any pronouns.

00:34:33.170 --> 00:34:34.510
They are just their name.

00:34:34.510 --> 00:34:35.310
That's who they are.

00:34:35.310 --> 00:34:38.910
Yeah, I think that's a fantastic way to go about that.

00:34:38.910 --> 00:34:45.070
about that. Right? A pronoun is a group of people.

00:34:45.070 --> 00:34:46.670
Right, right.

00:34:46.670 --> 00:34:47.670
Right.

00:34:47.670 --> 00:34:49.350
And being is an individual.

00:34:49.350 --> 00:34:52.470
So talk to the person like you're talking to them.

00:34:52.470 --> 00:34:53.470
Yes.

00:34:53.470 --> 00:34:54.470
Person.

00:34:54.470 --> 00:34:55.470
Don't talk to them as a group.

00:34:55.470 --> 00:34:56.470
That's so true.

00:34:56.470 --> 00:34:57.470
Don't talk to them as a category.

00:34:57.470 --> 00:34:58.470
Right.

00:34:58.470 --> 00:35:00.350
Talk to them as your person.

00:35:00.350 --> 00:35:03.190
So hi, you know, hi, Ahmad.

00:35:03.190 --> 00:35:04.190
How are you?

00:35:04.190 --> 00:35:05.190
Fantastic.

00:35:05.190 --> 00:35:06.190
Good to see you today.

00:35:06.190 --> 00:35:10.270
You know, don't say, you know, don't categorize yourself in a group.

00:35:10.270 --> 00:35:13.670
Don't categorize yourself as a designation.

00:35:13.670 --> 00:35:15.950
You know, talk to the person individually, one-on-one.

00:35:15.950 --> 00:35:16.950
That makes sense.

00:35:16.950 --> 00:35:16.950

00:35:16.950 --> 00:35:17.790
Yes.

00:35:17.790 --> 00:35:20.790
I think that's a fantastic way to think about it.

00:35:20.790 --> 00:35:25.550
So when you were first, you know, exposed to the whole Daddy Dom thing, what was it

00:35:25.550 --> 00:35:27.990
that was like that piqued your interest?

00:35:27.990 --> 00:35:31.950
What was that first thing was like, oh, I think I might be interested in this?

00:35:31.950 --> 00:35:35.070
Do you remember that moment or that experience?

00:35:35.070 --> 00:35:44.670
Wow, that is a phenomenal question. I think it would be hard to explain because it has been such

00:35:44.670 --> 00:35:58.110
an evolution. But I did have a propensity for the experienced Dom and inexperienced Sub.

00:35:58.910 --> 00:36:06.030
I think that's what it was for me because I had so many experiences throughout my life that I

00:36:06.030 --> 00:36:14.030
did have a lot of wisdom and knowledge. And holding someone by the hand and watching them grow

00:36:14.030 --> 00:36:22.430
and seeing them learn was such a high for me, totally non-sexual. Just that experience of

00:36:22.430 --> 00:36:26.110
teaching someone and watching them grow and learn and make their own mistakes and everything like

00:36:26.110 --> 00:36:35.710
that was such a huge love for me. That's what truly attracted me to that type of kink and whatnot.

00:36:35.710 --> 00:36:44.910
And sexually, through the In My Hands, I think for me, I've explored a lot of things in the DS

00:36:45.790 --> 00:36:52.430
realm of things. Everything from a different experience to full BDSM and very, very rough

00:36:52.430 --> 00:36:59.950
sexual play. And I've enjoyed all of them. I would say at the very beginning, it wasn't a

00:36:59.950 --> 00:37:08.590
sexual thing for me. It was love of, oh, I really love this dynamic. And the sexual part of it came

00:37:08.590 --> 00:37:15.870
afterwards through, as I say, now six years of doing audios.

00:37:15.870 --> 00:37:16.370
Uh-huh.

00:37:16.370 --> 00:37:16.870
Hmm.

00:37:16.870 --> 00:37:18.590
That's fascinating.

00:37:18.590 --> 00:37:22.350
I think that's so interesting, too, because I think people come into their kinks in so

00:37:22.350 --> 00:37:23.350
many different ways.

00:37:23.350 --> 00:37:28.510
Some people are exposed to certain things as children and that just clicks for them.

00:37:28.510 --> 00:37:33.150
Some people experience something in their teenage years, their first sexual experiences,

00:37:33.150 --> 00:37:34.150
something they watch.

00:37:34.150 --> 00:37:39.150
I mean, it's just so varied, but, you know, most people, I feel like a lot of people can

00:37:39.150 --> 00:37:44.550
pinpoint something that was their trigger or something that, you know, kind of led them

00:37:44.550 --> 00:37:46.710
down the path to that kink.

00:37:46.710 --> 00:37:51.750
Yeah. You know what? I could probably go back and, you know, to maybe my, you know, my first,

00:37:51.750 --> 00:37:58.550
you know, girlfriend, I would say, you know, talking about the voice gang. When I went on

00:37:58.550 --> 00:38:04.310
Twitter that day and found this voice that triggered something inside me, I didn't realize

00:38:04.310 --> 00:38:09.910
what it was, but it was the voice of my, one of my first girlfriends that really opened me up

00:38:09.910 --> 00:38:19.590
sexually. And I was like, what, what's going on? What is happening to me? You know? And I have,

00:38:19.590 --> 00:38:27.509
I never knew that audio erotica or ASMR was a thing until I heard that voice on Twitter

00:38:28.070 --> 00:38:36.629
and something triggered inside me that was like, what is going on? I need this, right?

00:38:36.629 --> 00:38:40.149
And then you just go down that rabbit hole.

00:38:40.149 --> 00:38:42.149
It's

00:38:42.149 --> 00:38:42.989
Bye.

00:38:42.989 --> 00:38:44.989
I love it.

00:38:44.989 --> 00:38:46.789
Oh, absolutely.

00:38:47.389 --> 00:38:48.509
I totally understand that.

00:38:48.509 --> 00:38:48.709
Yeah.

00:38:48.949 --> 00:38:51.869
And that, you know, people, some people are definitely more auditory.

00:38:51.869 --> 00:38:54.469
Like they need to hear things or that's their trigger.

00:38:54.469 --> 00:38:56.429
That's their little click thing.

00:38:56.949 --> 00:39:00.789
And, but not everybody is that way, but yeah, like you said, it just hits

00:39:00.789 --> 00:39:02.669
you because you were exposed to it.

00:39:03.109 --> 00:39:06.269
It was just like this avalanche or, you know, revelation.

00:39:06.269 --> 00:39:13.229
Yeah. Yeah. You don't know until you know. Right. And I think that's the wonderful thing about

00:39:13.229 --> 00:39:19.709
exploring all this stuff is go until you know, you know, they always have those little means

00:39:19.709 --> 00:39:24.669
is that, you know, you watch some, you know, some sort of weird and wonderful kink or something

00:39:24.669 --> 00:39:31.389
like that. And your brain says, Oh my God, but the other parts of you have another idea.

00:39:31.389 --> 00:39:32.389
Right.

00:39:32.389 --> 00:39:32.889
Yeah.

00:39:32.889 --> 00:39:40.409
So when you first started, were you doing a lot of stuff on Literatica?

00:39:40.409 --> 00:39:44.369
Is that kind of where you were loading a bunch of your audios or what was your first foray

00:39:44.369 --> 00:39:46.209
into doing it in my hands?

00:39:46.209 --> 00:39:47.449
Do it in my hands.

00:39:47.449 --> 00:39:51.689
No, my first foray into in my hands was on Literotica.

00:39:51.689 --> 00:39:54.889
I wrote, I think, four or five written stories.

00:39:54.889 --> 00:39:56.249
I posted there.

00:39:56.249 --> 00:39:58.209
The relationship I was in at the time

00:39:58.209 --> 00:40:00.409
said I was really good at sexting.

00:40:01.449 --> 00:40:03.849
I should, you know, dive into more of that.

00:40:03.849 --> 00:40:04.849
So I wrote some stuff.

00:40:04.849 --> 00:40:05.969
And then as I say, I, you know,

00:40:05.969 --> 00:40:09.089
I met someone on Twitter who did the vocal thing.

00:40:09.089 --> 00:40:10.369
And so I tried that as well.

00:40:10.369 --> 00:40:12.209
And I figured, you know, listen,

00:40:12.209 --> 00:40:14.609
I used it as an expression of myself.

00:40:14.609 --> 00:40:18.648
If anyone listened or didn't, I didn't care.

00:40:18.648 --> 00:40:19.809
An outlet.

00:40:19.809 --> 00:40:21.889
I needed to express myself.

00:40:21.889 --> 00:40:24.209
All these things, all these question marks

00:40:24.209 --> 00:40:28.729
I had within myself, I needed to explore those.

00:40:28.729 --> 00:40:32.689
And what better way than to hit record on my phone

00:40:32.689 --> 00:40:37.689
and have a blog of all the fantasies that I have.

00:40:37.969 --> 00:40:40.769
And if I post them somewhere that someone else

00:40:40.769 --> 00:40:44.129
may or may not enjoy, all the better.

00:40:44.689 --> 00:40:47.449
I truly, honestly did it for myself in the beginning.

00:40:47.449 --> 00:40:50.369
And I still do for myself in the beginning.

00:40:50.369 --> 00:40:55.369
And if anybody can relate out there to anything that I do,

00:40:55.369 --> 00:40:59.049
then that is just, you know, icing on the cake.

00:40:59.049 --> 00:41:01.049
And I should

00:41:01.049 --> 00:41:01.549
Oh.

00:41:01.549 --> 00:41:03.549
Mm-hmm.

00:41:03.549 --> 00:41:04.049
Yeah.

00:41:04.049 --> 00:41:06.609
Oh, absolutely, absolutely.

00:41:06.609 --> 00:41:11.149
You know, and I think it's I think for me, too, I feel like in many ways

00:41:11.509 --> 00:41:14.849
it's kind of like I'm sharing my sexuality with the world.

00:41:14.849 --> 00:41:19.249
And some people that is like taboo, like you shouldn't do that.

00:41:19.549 --> 00:41:22.049
And other people absolutely adore it.

00:41:22.049 --> 00:41:27.409
Absolutely. And I think we're seeing a trend to the people who are more open, obviously,

00:41:27.409 --> 00:41:31.969
and then to it as well, as opposed to where, you know, my generation, where I came from,

00:41:31.969 --> 00:41:33.889
which is fantastic. And I love that.

00:41:33.889 --> 00:41:34.389
Yeah.

00:41:34.389 --> 00:41:39.749
Yeah, I think, you know, for me, uh, at the time of the life that, you know, at this period

00:41:39.749 --> 00:41:43.549
that I was in, I, A, I had no creative outlet.

00:41:43.549 --> 00:41:49.309
I had finished my music career and, uh, I was just kind of writing, I had, I had stuff

00:41:49.309 --> 00:41:55.109
on my old Twitter that was called love letters and lust layers.

00:41:55.109 --> 00:42:00.309
And um, I think I had over 400 posts with those tags before I lost my Twitter.

00:42:00.309 --> 00:42:02.309
Oh, nice one.

00:42:02.309 --> 00:42:04.309
Oh, and you lost it?

00:42:04.309 --> 00:42:09.309
Uh, yeah, I had like, I don't know, people following me and it was just a,

00:42:09.309 --> 00:42:12.869
uh, once Elon Musk took over, there was no one else to there to, you know,

00:42:13.309 --> 00:42:14.929
him, you know, and it was just a disaster.

00:42:14.929 --> 00:42:17.489
So that's from last year.

00:42:17.489 --> 00:42:19.769
So I usually actually say, how long have you been doing this?

00:42:19.769 --> 00:42:24.609
November of last year, because I start all over again with everything.

00:42:24.609 --> 00:42:25.109
No.

00:42:25.109 --> 00:42:25.949
It's so painful.

00:42:25.949 --> 00:42:29.709
These assholes don't know what they're doing when they just are messing with

00:42:29.709 --> 00:42:32.829
people's lives and they're just kind of just assholes.

00:42:32.829 --> 00:42:40.948
You know, here's the thing is that I find too, and I spoke with a good friend of mine on Twitter and whatnot, is that, you know, they're dissolving communities.

00:42:40.948 --> 00:42:42.948
Oh, yeah

00:42:42.948 --> 00:42:52.388
I saw on Twitter before very close-knit communities, whether they were 15 or a group of 1500, whether

00:42:52.388 --> 00:43:00.308
it was about architecture, sex, it didn't matter. You had these really close-knit communities.

00:43:01.507 --> 00:43:02.148
All gone now.

00:43:02.148 --> 00:43:02.648
you

00:43:02.648 --> 00:43:03.148
about

00:43:03.148 --> 00:43:04.888
Yeah. All gone now.

00:43:04.888 --> 00:43:06.388
You're right. You're 100 percent right.

00:43:06.388 --> 00:43:07.988
I never thought of it that way, but you're right.

00:43:07.988 --> 00:43:08.848
That's what they're doing.

00:43:08.848 --> 00:43:14.448
Yeah, whatever the algorithms they're using and direction that they're headed, they have

00:43:14.448 --> 00:43:17.728
destroyed the communities of social media.

00:43:17.728 --> 00:43:18.228
you

00:43:18.228 --> 00:43:19.348
This is not benign.

00:43:19.348 --> 00:43:21.348
No, it's not.

00:43:21.348 --> 00:43:23.668
Oh, this is very intentional. Yeah.

00:43:23.668 --> 00:43:30.548
Yeah, absolutely. It's unfortunate, but you know, for us creators, we have to, you know,

00:43:30.548 --> 00:43:36.068
evolve and change and grow those things because they're out of our control and we have to,

00:43:36.068 --> 00:43:40.228
you know, we have to abide by the rules that are presented to us in those realms.

00:43:40.228 --> 00:43:42.228
It's

00:43:42.228 --> 00:43:43.508
We do, unfortunately.

00:43:43.508 --> 00:43:46.228
So you'll have to, you know, if you are a creator, you have to be someone who's

00:43:46.228 --> 00:43:48.748
open to learning new things and trying new things.

00:43:48.748 --> 00:43:52.268
And I am constantly trying new things, different things.

00:43:52.308 --> 00:43:53.948
And, you know, and I'm not averse to it.

00:43:53.948 --> 00:43:55.108
I kind of enjoy it.

00:43:55.108 --> 00:43:56.588
I'm like, well, let's try this today.

00:43:56.588 --> 00:43:57.148
Let's try that.

00:43:57.588 --> 00:43:58.348
I like it.

00:43:58.348 --> 00:43:59.028
Well, absolutely.

00:43:59.028 --> 00:43:59.508
Look at you.

00:43:59.508 --> 00:44:02.268
You do audio as you do books, podcasts.

00:44:02.308 --> 00:44:04.868
I mean, you, you're, you're into more stuff than I am.

00:44:04.868 --> 00:44:06.428
And I thought I stopped.

00:44:08.668 --> 00:44:12.628
I just started my suitable for work audio career as well.

00:44:12.668 --> 00:44:16.428
And, and so that I'm starting on that direction as well.

00:44:16.668 --> 00:44:19.608
So, I mean, just like you, you know, you have all these different

00:44:19.608 --> 00:44:20.808
things going on at the time.

00:44:20.808 --> 00:44:23.748
And sometimes it's a monster that you have to feed.

00:44:25.508 --> 00:44:27.548
It's a, as I say, you know, a labor of love.

00:44:27.548 --> 00:44:29.588
So you have to give the give and take.

00:44:29.588 --> 00:44:30.428
I'm proud of you.

00:44:30.428 --> 00:44:30.928
Bye.

00:44:30.928 --> 00:44:32.468
See you.

00:44:32.468 --> 00:44:34.448
So before we started the recording,

00:44:34.448 --> 00:44:36.688
we talked about how you are more of a,

00:44:36.688 --> 00:44:38.828
someone who fly by the seat of your pants,

00:44:38.828 --> 00:44:41.548
which I very much am also.

00:44:41.548 --> 00:44:44.048
And I mean, I do write things and I do think plan things,

00:44:44.048 --> 00:44:49.048
but I also am very, very largely fly by the seat of my pants.

00:44:49.428 --> 00:44:51.268
Talk about that a little bit for us.

00:44:51.268 --> 00:44:59.908
I have recorded probably over 1500 audios in the last six years. I would say less than 1% of those

00:44:59.908 --> 00:45:08.388
I've actually written something down. I simply have an image in my head that I want to start with

00:45:09.428 --> 00:45:16.628
and I may think where I want it to go and I just hit record and that's it's one take. There's no

00:45:16.628 --> 00:45:21.668
there's I do very little editing the only editing I do in my audio is maybe to make it clean it up

00:45:21.668 --> 00:45:27.748
because maybe I'm out in the woods or in my car or wherever the case may be but it's a one-hit

00:45:27.748 --> 00:45:34.548
wonder every single time because I want it to be authentic. I want it to be genuine and I want it

00:45:34.548 --> 00:45:43.188
to be me in the moment as I see it as I image it as I fantasize about it and I know a lot of people

00:45:43.188 --> 00:45:48.308
do write their scripts and sit in front of a microphone like I'm doing now in their studio

00:45:48.308 --> 00:45:53.348
and whatnot and that's great and I you know there's a huge market for that and people love that and

00:45:53.348 --> 00:46:00.708
love the sound quality of that. For me I have to be in the setting, I have to be in the moment,

00:46:00.708 --> 00:46:07.988
I have to be in the headspace, I have to be in the place and to really feel the vibration of

00:46:07.988 --> 00:46:13.428
the fantasy that I have in my head and I've recorded in some weird and wonderful places,

00:46:14.388 --> 00:46:20.788
recorded in the forest, I've recorded in my car, I've recorded at a gala once.

00:46:20.788 --> 00:46:21.288
Yes.

00:46:21.288 --> 00:46:22.828
OK.

00:46:22.828 --> 00:46:24.828
Yeah, I don't know.

00:46:24.828 --> 00:46:28.388
It was crazy.

00:46:28.388 --> 00:46:35.708
You know, all the ambient sounds that you hear on my recordings are simply from my iPhone.

00:46:35.708 --> 00:46:38.788
I use my iPhone because it's portable.

00:46:38.788 --> 00:46:40.788
I am in that place.

00:46:40.788 --> 00:46:46.028
So if you hear me that I'm recording in a forest, I'm in the forest if I'm in my car.

00:46:46.028 --> 00:46:46.868
Indeed.

00:46:46.868 --> 00:46:47.868
Mmm, wow.

00:46:47.868 --> 00:46:48.368
Bye.

00:46:48.368 --> 00:46:51.968
my car. Wow, that's amazing.

00:46:51.968 --> 00:46:55.968
I did one that I was in a gymnasium.

00:46:55.968 --> 00:46:58.448
I was in the gymnasium.

00:46:58.448 --> 00:47:06.808
I don't add any sounds to it because I want to be as authentic as it possibly can.

00:47:06.808 --> 00:47:11.488
And I have to feel, again, I'm doing this for me, I have to feel like I'm in that setting.

00:47:11.488 --> 00:47:15.088
I have to be immersed in that fantasy.

00:47:15.088 --> 00:47:21.768
And what better way to do it than put yourself in that scenario, in that setting and be in

00:47:21.768 --> 00:47:22.528
that place.

00:47:22.528 --> 00:47:24.528
You

00:47:24.528 --> 00:47:27.688
Absolutely. That's just so very authentic and amazing.

00:47:27.688 --> 00:47:31.208
And I do some of that myself, although I don't necessarily go to the places.

00:47:31.208 --> 00:47:35.688
But when I do it on my podcast, sometimes I have nothing planned at all.

00:47:35.688 --> 00:47:37.608
I may have like a couple of characters in mind.

00:47:37.608 --> 00:47:39.848
I may have a sexual act in mind. I may not.

00:47:39.848 --> 00:47:42.648
But I'll sit down and I'll just spin a tale right off the top of my head.

00:47:42.648 --> 00:47:44.008
I call it erotic improv.

00:47:44.008 --> 00:47:47.408
Yes. Creating a story is a fantasy that I'm just living out loud.

00:47:47.408 --> 00:47:49.928
I'm just creating it as I'm saying it.

00:47:49.928 --> 00:47:50.428
Yes.

00:47:50.428 --> 00:47:52.988
as you're seeing it, and you're evolving your mind.

00:47:52.988 --> 00:47:53.828
Yeah, yeah.

00:47:53.828 --> 00:47:58.388
I think you might know where it was going might end up completely different.

00:47:58.388 --> 00:48:01.388
Yes, absolutely, and that's amazing.

00:48:01.388 --> 00:48:03.788
Right. And it makes it exciting for us, for me.

00:48:03.788 --> 00:48:06.848
And I don't know where this is going to go because I don't know where my

00:48:06.848 --> 00:48:08.888
imagination is going to take me.

00:48:08.888 --> 00:48:11.288
And that's so exhilarating.

00:48:11.288 --> 00:48:12.988
It, you know, heightens the experience.

00:48:12.988 --> 00:48:16.828
I kind of think of it as, and someone said this to me once about my writing,

00:48:16.828 --> 00:48:20.328
that it's kind of like you're creating from a stream of consciousness.

00:48:20.328 --> 00:48:21.768
Absolutely, 100%.

00:48:21.768 --> 00:48:22.268
Yep.

00:48:22.268 --> 00:48:29.068
I would say when I'm recording, I don't necessarily black out because I am aware of my surroundings,

00:48:29.068 --> 00:48:35.828
but I'm so focused on the images in my mind and the scenario in my mind that I am in my

00:48:35.828 --> 00:48:37.428
own space.

00:48:37.428 --> 00:48:37.928
right?

00:48:37.928 --> 00:48:39.128
I completely understand that.

00:48:39.128 --> 00:48:42.328
Cause sometimes it's like, it's almost like once I'm done with it, it's

00:48:42.328 --> 00:48:46.448
like, it's almost like I wake up or I'm suddenly aware in a different

00:48:46.448 --> 00:48:51.728
way once my story is done, actually experiencing it, living it, brain

00:48:51.728 --> 00:48:53.648
chasm, whatever you want to call it.

00:48:54.648 --> 00:48:56.568
Immersed in it.

00:48:56.888 --> 00:49:00.328
Yes, yes, yes, yes.

00:49:00.768 --> 00:49:01.848
It's exactly what I feel.

00:49:02.928 --> 00:49:04.888
It's so fun to talk to somebody else who does that.

00:49:04.888 --> 00:49:07.328
Cause I don't talk to many people that actually do that.

00:49:07.328 --> 00:49:09.328
Yes, yes, yes.

00:49:09.328 --> 00:49:09.828
It's so funny.

00:49:09.828 --> 00:49:15.988
No. I mean, again, you know, as selfish as it seems, I'm doing it for myself first.

00:49:15.988 --> 00:49:21.988
And again, everybody else likes it. Great. But, you know, this is the, I just love doing that.

00:49:21.988 --> 00:49:26.468
And so if, if I'm doing something, if you're doing anything, you have to enjoy yourself first.

00:49:26.468 --> 00:49:27.308
I get it.

00:49:27.308 --> 00:49:28.588
Oh, yeah, you do.

00:49:28.588 --> 00:49:31.708
That's what gives me, you know, the satisfaction.

00:49:31.708 --> 00:49:38.508
Absolutely. So, do you get a lot of feedback from fans that say, I like this, I like that,

00:49:38.508 --> 00:49:42.828
and then do you cater, do you ever cater towards them or do you still kind of focus on what

00:49:43.468 --> 00:49:47.308
your thought is for the day or your plan or your just idea?

00:49:47.308 --> 00:49:52.628
Well, you know, I think as any creator will, will tell you, you know, and

00:49:52.628 --> 00:50:01.068
especially after, you know, producing, you know, 1500 plus audios, what do I do next?

00:50:03.068 --> 00:50:10.828
Like sometimes, you know, the, the imaginary pool is dry and you're like, I, you know, I

00:50:10.828 --> 00:50:13.148
can't even think about anything anymore.

00:50:13.148 --> 00:50:14.868
I've done it, done it all.

00:50:14.868 --> 00:50:16.668
Somebody need them help.

00:50:16.668 --> 00:50:17.788
And so absolutely.

00:50:17.788 --> 00:50:22.428
I will reach out to, to listeners and, you know, on my Patreon or only fans

00:50:22.428 --> 00:50:26.908
account and say, Hey, do you have any old favorites from the past that you want to

00:50:26.908 --> 00:50:27.428
hear?

00:50:27.428 --> 00:50:34.308
And from that, I'll gather what, you know, the general consensus of what, you know,

00:50:34.348 --> 00:50:36.628
my listeners want to hear more of.

00:50:37.268 --> 00:50:41.028
I will, I will probably do a series of those over the course of a month or two

00:50:41.028 --> 00:50:44.388
months, and then, you know, I'm a Gemini.

00:50:44.468 --> 00:50:47.108
I'll be honest, you know, I liked, I like change.

00:50:47.108 --> 00:50:48.108
I like diversity.

00:50:48.108 --> 00:50:52.668
I like, so I can never stick to one thing for any length of time.

00:50:52.668 --> 00:50:57.748
And I have to change it because I, I need to be, you know, satisfied and, and happy

00:50:57.748 --> 00:50:58.268
as well.

00:50:58.268 --> 00:51:04.068
So, you know, if I do a string of BDSM, you know, type of rougher, you know, whips

00:51:04.068 --> 00:51:09.468
and chains type audios, you know, I won't do them for long because, you know, I want

00:51:09.468 --> 00:51:13.028
to do the cuddly BF, you know, boyfriend experience audios.

00:51:13.347 --> 00:51:14.068
Right.

00:51:14.268 --> 00:51:18.628
Feel that, you know, and I want to feel the scenario of just going on a hike and

00:51:18.628 --> 00:51:20.108
fucking in the woods, you know, I.

00:51:20.108 --> 00:51:20.588
Right.

00:51:20.588 --> 00:51:21.428
What do I do?

00:51:21.428 --> 00:51:22.268
All right.

00:51:22.268 --> 00:51:22.768
Bye!

00:51:22.768 --> 00:51:23.268
but

00:51:23.268 --> 00:51:23.768
you

00:51:23.768 --> 00:51:24.268
change.

00:51:24.268 --> 00:51:25.268
Right.

00:51:25.268 --> 00:51:25.768
Feel that?

00:51:25.768 --> 00:51:26.768
Right.

00:51:26.768 --> 00:51:27.768
I want to have all.

00:51:27.768 --> 00:51:36.688
have all the experiences, so I think that has been also a deterrent to the stuff I do

00:51:36.688 --> 00:51:41.368
because I don't think people know what to expect from me.

00:51:41.368 --> 00:51:46.848
If you listen to some audio creators, it's pretty much cookie cutter.

00:51:46.848 --> 00:51:47.688
I love it.

00:51:47.688 --> 00:51:48.188
you

00:51:48.188 --> 00:51:49.888
They niche, yeah, they niche down.

00:51:49.888 --> 00:51:55.488
and down. And so when you click on their audio, you know exactly what you're going to get,

00:51:55.488 --> 00:52:00.048
you know, exactly format it's going to happen. The scenario might change, but it's going to

00:52:00.048 --> 00:52:07.648
be identical to the last 50 that they did. And me, I have to make it interesting for myself,

00:52:07.648 --> 00:52:16.128
or I'll just shoot myself again first for everybody else later. So, you know, it has to be

00:52:16.128 --> 00:52:21.888
new and wonderful for me too. And that's why, you know, I like you take on all these new projects

00:52:21.888 --> 00:52:24.688
and experience because, Oh yeah. And I

00:52:24.688 --> 00:52:30.768
Oh, yeah. And I just feel like my sexuality isn't narrow, so I couldn't just write about,

00:52:30.768 --> 00:52:35.488
couldn't niche down. I couldn't do it either. I just, it's not in me to niche down. I have to

00:52:35.488 --> 00:52:39.328
be diverse and create different things and some things will be more popular than others and that's

00:52:39.328 --> 00:52:39.568
fine.

00:52:39.568 --> 00:52:40.228
That's totally fine.

00:52:40.708 --> 00:52:41.208
Absolutely.

00:52:41.608 --> 00:52:43.948
You know, that's, that's fine.

00:52:43.948 --> 00:52:48.208
I, you know, whenever somebody says, you know, I get a comment says this, this

00:52:48.208 --> 00:52:50.148
really didn't hit the mark for me.

00:52:50.148 --> 00:52:53.488
It didn't do as I'm like, you know what, thank you for listening

00:52:53.488 --> 00:52:54.688
and giving it a chance.

00:52:54.688 --> 00:52:55.568
Totally fine.

00:52:55.568 --> 00:52:57.108
Ooh.

00:52:57.108 --> 00:52:59.108
Mm-hmm, yeah.

00:52:59.108 --> 00:53:03.748
That's the best thing, because at least you gave it a chance.

00:53:03.748 --> 00:53:04.748
Not for you.

00:53:04.748 --> 00:53:09.588
Hey, I listen to and view a lot of things that aren't my cup of tea.

00:53:09.588 --> 00:53:10.588
And that's okay.

00:53:10.588 --> 00:53:15.388
At least I gave it a chance, you know, and maybe the next one will be for you because

00:53:15.388 --> 00:53:16.148
it's always changing.

00:53:16.148 --> 00:53:16.648
Right.

00:53:16.648 --> 00:53:21.248
And I think this is where some people get so damaged when they're first starting out,

00:53:21.248 --> 00:53:24.048
and they get something negative like that, and they just shut down and like,

00:53:24.048 --> 00:53:25.048
Oh my gosh, I'm terrible.

00:53:25.488 --> 00:53:27.208
That is one person's opinion.

00:53:27.208 --> 00:53:30.088
You cannot let that stop you.

00:53:30.088 --> 00:53:34.968
Oh, you know, I always tell people who want to get into any sort of, you know, adult,

00:53:34.968 --> 00:53:40.408
you know, content creation is that A, you have to thick skin, B, you're doing it for yourself

00:53:40.408 --> 00:53:46.568
and others. And, you know, that's the way it has to go is that you, if you are enjoying what you're

00:53:46.568 --> 00:53:53.288
doing, then who fucking cares who likes it or doesn't. It doesn't matter, you know, and that's

00:53:53.288 --> 00:53:58.648
how I entered into this space is that it was a place for me. And if other people enjoyed it,

00:53:58.648 --> 00:53:59.448
all the better.

00:53:59.448 --> 00:54:00.288
Yes.

00:54:00.288 --> 00:54:02.288
It's exactly

00:54:02.288 --> 00:54:03.968
And you know, it's just like anything.

00:54:03.968 --> 00:54:06.168
I mean, there can be the most popular thing in the world.

00:54:06.168 --> 00:54:08.168
There's still going to be somebody who doesn't like it.

00:54:08.408 --> 00:54:12.208
So what we need to do is not put so much stock in what one person thinks.

00:54:12.528 --> 00:54:16.368
Like you said, do it for ourselves or do it for that person that enjoys what

00:54:16.368 --> 00:54:18.248
you're doing and not shut down.

00:54:18.248 --> 00:54:22.408
Because I've seen, even interviewed some people that they get a bad review and

00:54:22.408 --> 00:54:24.928
they're just, they're just like, they're lost.

00:54:24.928 --> 00:54:31.088
Ah, now it's listen, you know, the message sent isn't always how it's received and you can't

00:54:31.088 --> 00:54:38.048
control how it's received. So if you had that exact same audio sent to that person on the

00:54:38.048 --> 00:54:43.808
Saturday when they were in kind of a really kinky mood, wanted something kind of just different and

00:54:43.808 --> 00:54:49.008
weird and it hit all the right buttons on a Saturday, but on the Tuesday when they had a

00:54:49.008 --> 00:54:53.008
bad Monday and they're actually just recovering from the Monday into the Tuesday and you hit

00:54:53.008 --> 00:54:58.448
them with the audio, they're like, fuck this shit, this is horrible. So you can't control

00:54:58.448 --> 00:55:05.008
someone's mood and how it's received. All you can do is send the message and that's all you can do

00:55:05.008 --> 00:55:11.088
is have sending the message out, how it's received on the day it's received, the way that you're

00:55:11.088 --> 00:55:17.728
feeling of when you receive the message is all up to you. I have no control over that. So, you know,

00:55:17.728 --> 00:55:22.128
if it's something that didn't hit the mark today, maybe listen to it next month and it'll hit the

00:55:22.128 --> 00:55:22.928
mark again.

00:55:22.928 --> 00:55:23.428
Right.

00:55:23.428 --> 00:55:29.268
That's true. That's so true, because, you know, having a bad day can totally color everything.

00:55:29.268 --> 00:55:34.068
hundred percent, you know, that's just the way it goes. And I, and therefore we can't take offense

00:55:34.068 --> 00:55:39.348
to that because it's the way someone has perceived that in the moment in the, the emotional state

00:55:39.348 --> 00:55:44.228
that they're in at that moment. So it's totally fine. You know, you have to give people, you know,

00:55:44.228 --> 00:55:51.348
that, you know, that, you know, Mulligan that pass, you know, right. You can't do it personally.

00:55:51.348 --> 00:55:58.468
Again, you didn't, you know, you didn't do it for somebody else, right. You, so don't take it

00:55:58.468 --> 00:56:03.028
personally. It's nothing against you. It's against them. They just weren't feeling it.

00:56:03.028 --> 00:56:07.428
Great. Thank you for giving it a shot. You know, maybe the next one will hit. Well,

00:56:07.428 --> 00:56:08.788
good luck to you. You know,

00:56:08.788 --> 00:56:09.288
You know?

00:56:09.288 --> 00:56:10.828
Yeah.

00:56:10.828 --> 00:56:11.328
I know.

00:56:11.328 --> 00:56:14.328
Exactly, exactly.

00:56:14.328 --> 00:56:19.328
So in all of the different audios, we've done some audio books together, and some of them

00:56:19.328 --> 00:56:23.228
obviously fit more your personality and your sexuality more than others.

00:56:23.228 --> 00:56:30.048
Is it awkward for you to play a role that goes against that, or do you just feel you're

00:56:30.048 --> 00:56:32.008
playing a role, you're acting it out?

00:56:32.008 --> 00:56:40.408
there has been nothing I have done so far that and I can't really perceive anything in the future

00:56:40.408 --> 00:56:48.968
that I would not be able to get into, to be quite honest. The only thing that I, here's the thing,

00:56:48.968 --> 00:56:57.608
is I won't be able to, I can't do a scenario if I have no reference point. So I have a lot of

00:56:57.608 --> 00:57:02.728
male listeners who listen to me. Oh sure. Absolutely, you know, and I've been asked

00:57:02.728 --> 00:57:08.648
on many occasions to do, you know, some sort of homosexual interaction, gay and trans,

00:57:08.648 --> 00:57:15.208
whatnot. And I'm like, man, I would love to explore that. I have no idea how the mechanics work.

00:57:15.208 --> 00:57:15.708
Hmm.

00:57:15.708 --> 00:57:17.708
So I have

00:57:17.708 --> 00:57:18.208
For sure.

00:57:18.208 --> 00:57:23.928
I don't know. I've never been in that situation before. I've never had that interaction before.

00:57:23.928 --> 00:57:31.948
So for me, audio that I've never had any sort of reference to would be a disservice. I would

00:57:31.948 --> 00:57:38.068
just feel like I'm failing right out of the gate because I've never done that before.

00:57:38.068 --> 00:57:46.208
So I don't know how it's supposed to feel, interact. I have no, I have zero, zero place

00:57:46.208 --> 00:57:53.487
to start. I would love to do that for you, but I just, I just, I can't because it wouldn't

00:57:53.487 --> 00:57:59.928
be genuine. It wouldn't be the authentic. It wouldn't be from me. So that's why I just

00:57:59.928 --> 00:58:05.007
draw the line. If it's something that I can't, I don't have reference to. Now there obviously

00:58:05.007 --> 00:58:11.088
there's fantasy and reality, but that's a very realistic, you know, situation, you know,

00:58:11.088 --> 00:58:15.568
between two people. And I want to make that true. If it's a fantasy of, you know, you

00:58:15.568 --> 00:58:20.368
know, a demon spawn or pirates or whatever the case may be. Sure. I can play that part.

00:58:20.368 --> 00:58:25.447
No problem. I have a whole series that I do that I play the part of a wolf. And I think

00:58:25.447 --> 00:58:31.208
that's a different thing than actually making it authentic and genuine in a, you know, person

00:58:31.208 --> 00:58:33.008
to person, intimate situation.

00:58:33.008 --> 00:58:33.508
Sure.

00:58:33.508 --> 00:58:34.008
Zero.

00:58:34.008 --> 00:58:34.848
I wouldn't.

00:58:34.848 --> 00:58:35.348
Right.

00:58:35.348 --> 00:58:35.848
Yeah.

00:58:35.848 --> 00:58:36.848
Yeah.

00:58:36.848 --> 00:58:37.848
Mm-hmm.

00:58:37.848 --> 00:58:37.848

00:58:37.848 --> 00:58:38.348
Yeah.

00:58:38.348 --> 00:58:43.628
That's true. That's the difference between, you know, realistic scenarios and fantasy or sci-fi.

00:58:44.228 --> 00:58:45.828
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

00:58:45.828 --> 00:58:49.308
None of us have been in that scenario because it doesn't exist, you know,

00:58:49.908 --> 00:58:52.988
and in our brains that exists, but it doesn't exist in reality.

00:58:52.988 --> 00:58:53.988
Yeah.

00:58:53.988 --> 00:58:54.988
Yeah.

00:58:54.988 --> 00:58:54.988

00:58:54.988 --> 00:58:55.828
You know.

00:58:55.828 --> 00:58:59.668
Yeah. And you can make it whatever you want it to be. But, you know, obviously if it's something

00:58:59.668 --> 00:59:04.628
that has, you know, reference to reality, you want to make it authentic and genuine. And sometimes

00:59:04.628 --> 00:59:09.908
I just don't have a reference point to do that. Another point of that was someone asked me to do

00:59:09.908 --> 00:59:11.668
a cuck video.

00:59:11.668 --> 00:59:12.508
Oh, sure.

00:59:12.508 --> 00:59:13.948
And I did a lot of research.

00:59:13.948 --> 00:59:20.168
I went on forums and I listened to group chats of like 65 people talking about it.

00:59:20.488 --> 00:59:26.008
And what an amazing community of people that are, you know, into that kink

00:59:26.008 --> 00:59:27.648
and the whole diversity of it.

00:59:27.648 --> 00:59:29.807
And I was like, wow, this is amazing.

00:59:29.807 --> 00:59:34.408
I got, you know, information from the bulls, from the sub, from the hot

00:59:34.408 --> 00:59:36.567
wife, and I collected it all.

00:59:36.567 --> 00:59:38.727
And I'm like, there's just so much here.

00:59:38.868 --> 00:59:40.668
I just have no reference point.

00:59:40.668 --> 00:59:45.008
And as much as, oh, and I've collected all the information and educated myself,

00:59:45.028 --> 00:59:50.848
I still would not have a personal reference point to do an audio in this.

00:59:51.588 --> 00:59:52.908
So I know.

00:59:52.908 --> 00:59:53.908
in this.

00:59:53.908 --> 00:59:53.908

00:59:53.908 --> 00:59:55.148
I can understand that.

00:59:55.148 --> 00:59:59.428
I mean, you know, you can act something out, but yeah, if you don't feel like you're doing

00:59:59.428 --> 01:00:04.028
it in a genuine way, you just feel like you're putting something out there that is not, not

01:00:04.028 --> 01:00:08.988
good, not realistic, not, you know, not a real picture.

01:00:08.988 --> 01:00:09.987
Not me.

01:00:09.987 --> 01:00:10.988
Right.

01:00:10.988 --> 01:00:11.988
Not you.

01:00:11.988 --> 01:00:12.988
Exactly.

01:00:12.988 --> 01:00:13.988
Not you.

01:00:13.988 --> 01:00:19.748
So if it's not me, then you don't get it.

01:00:19.748 --> 01:00:21.628
I can totally understand that.

01:00:21.628 --> 01:00:26.067
So what do you find is the sexiest part of being a daddy dog?

01:00:26.067 --> 01:00:27.707
Not me. Right.

01:00:27.707 --> 01:00:32.027
If it's not me, then you don't get it.

01:00:32.027 --> 01:00:36.667
Wow. That's a really, man, you have really good questions.

01:00:38.907 --> 01:00:45.147
What is the sexiest part of being a daddy Dom? I think I love, you know, this is the ego part of

01:00:45.147 --> 01:00:53.387
me talking is I love having someone look up to me, you know, for that guidance, for that support,

01:00:53.387 --> 01:01:00.107
for that praise, you know, just the look in their eyes there, you know, when they're in trouble,

01:01:00.107 --> 01:01:05.227
they turn, who they turn to, they turn to me, I want to be the answer guy, I want to be the

01:01:05.227 --> 01:01:12.507
solver of all questions, you know, your support, your pillar, you know, that's super sexy for me,

01:01:12.507 --> 01:01:17.067
you know, I can't explain why, but I love being that role.

01:01:17.067 --> 01:01:17.567
Oh, sure.

01:01:17.567 --> 01:01:18.067
you

01:01:18.067 --> 01:01:21.367
Hmm. Very, very interesting.

01:01:21.767 --> 01:01:26.567
You like being someone looking up to you, how it's turning to you, right?

01:01:26.567 --> 01:01:36.007
Yeah, because in reciprocation, again, within the, you know, Dom sub, you know, dynamic, is they

01:01:36.887 --> 01:01:44.647
are going to give themselves to you fully, completely, right? So that, you know,

01:01:44.647 --> 01:01:51.847
makes my heart swell. You know, someone who is, who is willingly giving everything to me,

01:01:52.727 --> 01:01:58.407
because I give them so much support and nurture and guidance and whatever.

01:01:59.206 --> 01:02:05.767
Just that's, that's the dynamic. That's the thing. That's the secret to us. You know,

01:02:05.767 --> 01:02:07.206
for me, it is anyway.

01:02:07.206 --> 01:02:07.706
Hehehehe

01:02:07.706 --> 01:02:16.826
So do you tend to create audios that are more like an exclusive relationship or do you ever venture into like swinging areas?

01:02:16.826 --> 01:02:21.706
Um, I think I would say most of my audios have been one-on-one scenarios.

01:02:21.706 --> 01:02:25.866
And I think that's the dynamic that I've gotten into, the kind of niche that I'll

01:02:25.866 --> 01:02:27.686
say niche that I've gotten into.

01:02:27.686 --> 01:02:33.065
It's, it's a one-on-one interaction that listener can put in their earbuds and

01:02:33.065 --> 01:02:35.846
feel like it's just me and them.

01:02:36.626 --> 01:02:44.626
So I have done a few, you know, threesome type scenarios or been in a, a group type

01:02:44.626 --> 01:02:49.866
of scenario in a, um, you know, a swingers club or whatever, but the interaction is

01:02:49.866 --> 01:02:52.386
still me and you, right?

01:02:52.546 --> 01:02:54.086
There's no, there's no third party.

01:02:54.086 --> 01:02:58.486
I am talking to you, you and I are in an interaction.

01:02:58.986 --> 01:03:05.106
And obviously if I was, you know, having sex with anyone, it would be me talking to

01:03:05.106 --> 01:03:07.486
them, it would be in me acting with them.

01:03:07.566 --> 01:03:13.906
And so there's a difference between that one-on-one personal interaction and doing

01:03:13.906 --> 01:03:14.506
a narrative.

01:03:14.826 --> 01:03:19.026
So doing a narrative, you're telling a story of what happened from an observer,

01:03:19.066 --> 01:03:21.186
from a third party observing.

01:03:21.586 --> 01:03:26.026
So even me, I'm observing what this interaction is.

01:03:26.306 --> 01:03:30.666
That's the, you know, the narrative part and the personal one-on-one part is me

01:03:31.146 --> 01:03:35.946
talking to you like you're here, interacting with you like you're in front of me.

01:03:36.026 --> 01:03:42.626
And I think I would say 99.999% of the audios I do are that personal interaction.

01:03:42.626 --> 01:03:43.126
Right.

01:03:43.126 --> 01:03:43.966
acting with them.

01:03:43.966 --> 01:03:44.806
So even...

01:03:44.806 --> 01:03:45.306
And I.

01:03:45.306 --> 01:03:47.386
That makes sense. And it is different.

01:03:47.386 --> 01:03:50.386
Like, for instance, when we're doing an audio book, we're telling a story,

01:03:50.386 --> 01:03:53.906
and that's different than what you're talking about, where you're, you know,

01:03:53.906 --> 01:03:56.986
creating an environment, a situation one on one.

01:03:56.986 --> 01:04:02.906
Yeah and you know and both are valid. Yeah. Oh yeah. I've listened to both. They're both great

01:04:02.906 --> 01:04:08.026
and they both have their place. That's just what I've kind of you know that's what resonates with

01:04:08.026 --> 01:04:13.786
me and that's what I like to do the most. Absolutely. Again, I don't write very well.

01:04:13.786 --> 01:04:15.786
Yeah. Oh, yeah. I've list

01:04:15.786 --> 01:04:22.266
Absolutely. And I don't write very well. You create just straight from your brain.

01:04:22.266 --> 01:04:24.266
That's where it comes from.

01:04:24.266 --> 01:04:28.626
I love that. And I love that is, and I think is amazing too, is for me,

01:04:28.626 --> 01:04:31.626
I feel this as well, to get to a space in my own life,

01:04:31.626 --> 01:04:36.506
in my own personality and my own sexuality where I can actually do that and

01:04:36.506 --> 01:04:41.386
share it with a large volume of people and be okay with that and actually enjoy

01:04:41.386 --> 01:04:44.506
it. Like you say, that is like glorious.

01:04:44.506 --> 01:04:49.386
Yeah. And, and again, you know, my mindset going into recording any audio is just,

01:04:49.386 --> 01:04:54.906
it's just me and you. There aren't, there aren't thousands of people listening. There aren't

01:04:55.546 --> 01:05:00.986
people, whatever. It's just me and you. That's how I go into it. And that's how I come out of it.

01:05:00.986 --> 01:05:06.666
It's just, just been a one-on-one interaction. And, you know, if other people want to,

01:05:06.666 --> 01:05:09.146
want to be exhibitionists and listen in, that's great.

01:05:09.706 --> 01:05:10.206
Right.

01:05:13.146 --> 01:05:19.146
And, and it's been a blast, you know, you know, before I took down, you know, pretty much 90%

01:05:19.146 --> 01:05:24.106
of my public audios, you know, across my platforms, I was at something ridiculous,

01:05:24.106 --> 01:05:27.146
like, like 15 million. Oh my.

01:05:27.146 --> 01:05:28.146
Yeah.

01:05:28.146 --> 01:05:29.146
Bye.

01:05:29.146 --> 01:05:29.146

01:05:29.146 --> 01:05:31.146
And

01:05:31.146 --> 01:05:35.706
Oh my gosh! Well, why did you take them down though? Why did you have to?

01:05:35.706 --> 01:05:40.706
Well, I decided to trade in likes for a monetary value.

01:05:40.706 --> 01:05:41.546
Oh, gotcha.

01:05:41.546 --> 01:05:43.086
OK.

01:05:43.086 --> 01:05:47.086
I literally had probably 300 free audios out there.

01:05:47.486 --> 01:05:52.526
I see, you know what I've done this for like six years now, you know,

01:05:52.646 --> 01:05:54.006
and I took everything down.

01:05:54.006 --> 01:05:56.806
I left, I left some stuff up for reference and whatnot.

01:05:56.806 --> 01:06:01.806
But I said, yeah, I said, listen, I'm putting my entire archive, you

01:06:01.806 --> 01:06:05.166
know, over 1500 audios on my Patreon.

01:06:05.446 --> 01:06:12.166
I think for the price of a coffee every month, 1500 audios, that's all I'm asking.

01:06:12.166 --> 01:06:14.686
I'm not my heart and soul into this.

01:06:14.686 --> 01:06:20.566
I put my very into this, you know, and I just want it to be appreciated in some way.

01:06:20.606 --> 01:06:21.086
That's all.

01:06:21.086 --> 01:06:22.686
I see. You know what?

01:06:22.686 --> 01:06:23.186
No.

01:06:23.186 --> 01:06:24.186
Yeah.

01:06:24.186 --> 01:06:25.026
Bye.

01:06:25.026 --> 01:06:25.526
Yeah.

01:06:25.526 --> 01:06:26.926
That's all I'm saying.

01:06:26.926 --> 01:06:28.726
That is a lot.

01:06:28.726 --> 01:06:32.006
Yeah. No, and there's, you know, there, that is very valid.

01:06:32.006 --> 01:06:35.206
There is no reason you shouldn't be making money.

01:06:35.226 --> 01:06:39.606
I mean, this is, I mean, that's a lot, that's a giant amount of time.

01:06:40.086 --> 01:06:45.646
And that is a way for people to show their appreciation for what you do.

01:06:45.646 --> 01:06:50.926
Yeah. And as I say, you know, I like to spread the wealth so I don't ask, you know, I'm not asking

01:06:50.926 --> 01:06:56.286
for a million dollars. It's like, hey, you know, every month, you know, you have access to all of

01:06:56.286 --> 01:07:02.606
your favorite audios that I've ever done in my entire life. And, you know, thank you.

01:07:02.606 --> 01:07:03.606
Right.

01:07:03.606 --> 01:07:05.286
I don't think that's unreasonable at all.

01:07:05.286 --> 01:07:08.326
I think that is valid and that is something that should be done.

01:07:08.646 --> 01:07:11.246
I mean, you know, it's great to have stuff out there, like you said,

01:07:11.246 --> 01:07:15.766
that is still free to, you know, help people be exposed to you

01:07:15.766 --> 01:07:17.686
and maybe seek out more.

01:07:17.686 --> 01:07:19.726
But I don't blame you at all.

01:07:19.726 --> 01:07:21.526
I think that's what you should be doing.

01:07:21.526 --> 01:07:25.286
Yeah, I think, you know, I think people should be compensated for the time and effort they

01:07:25.286 --> 01:07:26.366
put into something.

01:07:26.366 --> 01:07:32.046
I never, I'll be honest for a long time, because again, I was, for me, but you know, over time,

01:07:32.046 --> 01:07:38.646
I realized how much, you know, of my personal time has gone into this and, and how much

01:07:38.646 --> 01:07:41.966
it's going to continue to be put into this.

01:07:41.966 --> 01:07:47.806
And I was like, you know, just need some compensation, you know, to maybe buy a new microphone, buy

01:07:47.806 --> 01:07:54.726
a new iPhone, you know, I had three, maybe I should upgrade.

01:07:54.726 --> 01:07:55.726
I never thought.

01:07:55.726 --> 01:07:57.266
Yeah.

01:07:57.266 --> 01:07:58.806
Yes.

01:07:58.806 --> 01:08:00.806
A hundred percent you should.

01:08:00.806 --> 01:08:06.166
I'm not asking to get rich or do this on a full-time basis, I'm just asking for some

01:08:06.166 --> 01:08:09.166
small things.

01:08:09.166 --> 01:08:14.186
All you want to do is continue doing it, and if you can have to continue doing something

01:08:14.186 --> 01:08:16.326
that you love, that's fantastic.

01:08:16.326 --> 01:08:17.846
I think that's the best you can ask for.

01:08:17.846 --> 01:08:22.086
It is. And you know, it's great to hear what people think, but it is also important to be,

01:08:22.086 --> 01:08:28.246
you know, you are spending time and you are creating stuff and it is worth more. You should

01:08:28.246 --> 01:08:35.286
be compensated. I think that is a total valid thing to do. And I, I, I'm glad you did.

01:08:35.286 --> 01:08:36.286
I'm glad you did.

01:08:36.286 --> 01:08:42.486
Again, I look at this, you know, I came from the music world as a musician, right?

01:08:42.486 --> 01:08:43.486
For music.

01:08:43.486 --> 01:08:46.806
Well, you know, you should pay for the other creative things that happen in your life as

01:08:46.806 --> 01:08:47.086
well.

01:08:47.086 --> 01:08:49.686
Yes, yes, exactly.

01:08:49.726 --> 01:08:54.446
You're creating entertainment for people and enjoyment and pleasure.

01:08:54.446 --> 01:09:00.526
pleasure. You create joy, show your appreciation for that. That's all it should be. And I do that

01:09:00.526 --> 01:09:07.646
on a daily basis. I buy all local stuff from the local vendors, support other content creators

01:09:09.886 --> 01:09:15.726
that I consume. And I think that's super important to support people that you love.

01:09:15.726 --> 01:09:17.426
Absolutely. One hundred percent.

01:09:18.326 --> 01:09:21.386
So tell me all the things that we've narrated together.

01:09:21.386 --> 01:09:25.886
Have you had a favorite story so far that you've enjoyed narrating the part of?

01:09:25.886 --> 01:09:29.366
Well, I've done a few characters and I'll be honest.

01:09:29.366 --> 01:09:32.006
I said, I loved every single one of them.

01:09:32.806 --> 01:09:35.646
There wasn't anything that I didn't like.

01:09:36.046 --> 01:09:39.286
And as I say, I'm open book and I'm wide open to everything.

01:09:39.286 --> 01:09:43.566
So I have, I've truly loved all the scenarios that we've done together.

01:09:43.606 --> 01:09:47.286
And I know you have a few more, you know, coming up and I'm looking

01:09:47.286 --> 01:09:48.566
forward to doing those as well.

01:09:48.566 --> 01:09:49.406
You got it.

01:09:49.406 --> 01:09:52.286
Oh, absolutely. I enjoy it so much.

01:09:52.286 --> 01:09:56.806
It is a lot of work to put multiple voices together in an audio book,

01:09:57.046 --> 01:09:59.926
but it's so it's so much fun and it's so valuable.

01:09:59.926 --> 01:10:04.806
And I think it creates such a great entertainment stream for someone to listen to.

01:10:04.806 --> 01:10:12.886
Yeah. To be honest, it was difficult. I mean, you had to come up with six different male voices.

01:10:12.886 --> 01:10:15.886
We're going to run off real quick, aren't we?

01:10:15.886 --> 01:10:20.326
I was struggling a little bit here and there, and I always had to go back to a reference

01:10:20.326 --> 01:10:25.326
point if I missed a line, because I was like, I have no idea what Brian sounds like anymore,

01:10:25.326 --> 01:10:29.326
so I'm going to have to go back to how that sounded.

01:10:29.326 --> 01:10:31.246
But yeah, I think it's absolutely fun.

01:10:31.246 --> 01:10:32.246
I love it.

01:10:32.246 --> 01:10:34.406
I love, I love playing different parts.

01:10:34.406 --> 01:10:35.406
You know, I love acting.

01:10:35.406 --> 01:10:41.206
I love, you know, you know, the whole performance, you know, area I came from, I love doing that

01:10:41.206 --> 01:10:42.206
stuff.

01:10:42.206 --> 01:10:46.846
It's not like that anymore, so I don't know how that sounded.

01:10:46.846 --> 01:10:47.346
and dull.

01:10:47.346 --> 01:10:48.706
Oh, yeah, me too.

01:10:48.706 --> 01:10:50.706
Labor of love. I love doing it.

01:10:50.706 --> 01:10:53.346
Absolutely. So what kind of music did you do?

01:10:53.346 --> 01:10:59.566
Well, I started off as, you know, rock and roll band in the, I'm not going to

01:10:59.566 --> 01:11:05.746
date myself, but, you know, university and college and, you know, the, the early

01:11:05.746 --> 01:11:09.086
nineties, uh, I was in a rock band.

01:11:09.086 --> 01:11:14.026
And once I got my university degree, I threw it in the garbage and

01:11:14.466 --> 01:11:16.026
toured with my band for five years.

01:11:16.026 --> 01:11:20.006
You know, we crisscrossed Canada and, uh, did that, you know, whole rock

01:11:20.006 --> 01:11:22.446
and roll thing for about five years.

01:11:22.666 --> 01:11:26.426
I was in a couple of bands that had, you know, a video on, you know, the

01:11:26.426 --> 01:11:29.546
Canadian version of MTV, which is much music.

01:11:30.086 --> 01:11:35.266
We did a few, uh, at the time they were cassettes cause CDs were just coming out.

01:11:35.266 --> 01:11:36.946
It was too expensive to put out a CD.

01:11:36.946 --> 01:11:37.706
So you still had to.

01:11:37.706 --> 01:11:38.546
I don't know.

01:11:38.546 --> 01:11:40.546
You

01:11:40.546 --> 01:11:42.106
Oh, wow.

01:11:42.106 --> 01:11:46.826
And I did a lot of that for, as I say, five years before I kind of went into the tech

01:11:46.826 --> 01:11:50.346
side of things, management side of entertainment.

01:11:50.346 --> 01:11:51.346
And I was entered in it.

01:11:51.346 --> 01:11:57.906
I was in the entertainment business for about 35 years and through that I was in all aspects

01:11:57.906 --> 01:12:05.786
as a performer, I had a solo country career, I was touring bands, but I was everything

01:12:05.786 --> 01:12:11.986
else behind the scenes as well from, you know, an engineer to a tour manager to everything

01:12:11.986 --> 01:12:13.066
else.

01:12:13.066 --> 01:12:19.586
So I did it all in that business and it was a great experience and I shall never do it

01:12:19.586 --> 01:12:20.086
again.

01:12:20.086 --> 01:12:20.586
Oh.

01:12:20.586 --> 01:12:22.126
Mm-hmm.

01:12:22.126 --> 01:12:22.966
Oh, wow.

01:12:22.966 --> 01:12:24.646
You're up to new things, right?

01:12:24.646 --> 01:12:25.526
much better thing.

01:12:25.526 --> 01:12:28.046
It's interesting, though, that it's all audio, like, you know, even though you're

01:12:28.046 --> 01:12:32.406
performing in front of people, it's still largely audio when you're doing music.

01:12:32.406 --> 01:12:40.166
Yeah it's still a creative process you know it's expressing a an emotion or emotions within a you

01:12:40.166 --> 01:12:49.285
know three minute four minute span is how do I get this thing that I want to express across not only

01:12:49.285 --> 01:12:54.965
in lyrics but in the mood of the music and instruments that are going to be used within the song.

01:12:54.965 --> 01:12:55.465
Right.

01:12:55.465 --> 01:12:58.065
And I think that is a huge thing.

01:12:58.065 --> 01:13:01.665
And one of the things that I really wanted to do with my audio is to

01:13:01.665 --> 01:13:05.565
incorporate music because it elevates everything.

01:13:06.065 --> 01:13:06.665
It does.

01:13:07.165 --> 01:13:09.365
Takes everything to a whole different level.

01:13:09.365 --> 01:13:11.465
You know, you want to be without music.

01:13:11.765 --> 01:13:12.965
You're lost.

01:13:13.265 --> 01:13:17.865
You know what, you know, you if you add music to anything, you just

01:13:17.865 --> 01:13:23.765
expand the whole realm of emotional, you know, tingles that you can feel.

01:13:24.165 --> 01:13:27.965
So I think one of the next projects that I'm going to do is that I'm

01:13:27.965 --> 01:13:33.465
going to try to do as many audios by incorporating some music into

01:13:33.465 --> 01:13:38.865
it just to create that yumminess, you know, that whole a tingle

01:13:38.865 --> 01:13:42.465
that you just like, oh my God, something immersive is happening

01:13:42.465 --> 01:13:44.365
and I don't know what but I love it.

01:13:44.365 --> 01:13:46.365
It does.

01:13:46.365 --> 01:13:47.925
Oh, yeah.

01:13:47.925 --> 01:13:48.425
Yeah.

01:13:48.425 --> 01:13:52.585
I think that's so true, but you also have to worry about the rights of having the rights of the music.

01:13:52.585 --> 01:13:55.705
Well, yeah, you know what I mean? Like you have to buy the rights, right? Don't you?

01:13:55.705 --> 01:13:57.105
Well, I'll be honest with you.

01:13:57.105 --> 01:13:59.505
I'll be with the daddy Dom podcast.

01:13:59.805 --> 01:14:00.505
I went on.

01:14:00.505 --> 01:14:04.405
There's a ton of free copyright music.

01:14:04.405 --> 01:14:04.905
One.

01:14:04.905 --> 01:14:07.385
Oh, OK, sure.

01:14:07.385 --> 01:14:10.225
you know, that, that is, that is free to teach you.

01:14:10.785 --> 01:14:11.025
Okay.

01:14:11.025 --> 01:14:18.745
And so the intro and the outro of the Daddy Dom podcast was one of those free

01:14:18.745 --> 01:14:23.105
things and all they were asked is that you use them in the credits and I use them in

01:14:23.105 --> 01:14:29.785
the, and so I think I'm going to go down that path and just find a whole bunch of

01:14:29.785 --> 01:14:36.065
nice, really, you know, cool, sensual music that I can incorporate into my audios that

01:14:36.065 --> 01:14:38.865
just create the vibe that I'm looking for, you know?

01:14:38.865 --> 01:14:39.705
Ah, okay.

01:14:39.705 --> 01:14:40.205
thing.

01:14:40.205 --> 01:14:41.045
Aww.

01:14:41.045 --> 01:14:41.545
You know.

01:14:41.545 --> 01:14:42.885
Yeah, I think it's a great idea.

01:14:42.885 --> 01:14:43.885
I never really thought about that,

01:14:43.885 --> 01:14:46.585
but I always think about that with images,

01:14:46.585 --> 01:14:48.345
but you're right, there is music,

01:14:48.345 --> 01:14:50.185
free use music out there as well.

01:14:50.185 --> 01:14:53.785
There's a lot of it actually gone down that rabbit hole and just

01:14:53.785 --> 01:14:57.385
could not believe the amount of content that's available.

01:14:57.985 --> 01:14:59.285
You have to do a lot of searching.

01:14:59.285 --> 01:15:02.785
You do have to do a lot of like, you know, your reconnaissance

01:15:02.785 --> 01:15:06.585
work, I'll say, but you know, you'll hit that one is like,

01:15:06.585 --> 01:15:10.185
that's the one that's the one and I was really lucky with the

01:15:10.185 --> 01:15:15.785
Daddy Dom podcast is that it was the very first piece of music

01:15:15.785 --> 01:15:16.685
that I pulled up.

01:15:16.885 --> 01:15:18.585
I said, nice, that's it.

01:15:18.585 --> 01:15:22.785
That's the one must have that and love that.

01:15:22.785 --> 01:15:24.785
And I was

01:15:24.785 --> 01:15:25.625
That's what I said.

01:15:25.625 --> 01:15:27.625
That's so hot.

01:15:27.625 --> 01:15:29.625
I love that feeling.

01:15:29.625 --> 01:15:32.425
Well, I'll be honest, I would have paid for it if I had to, because it was just...

01:15:32.425 --> 01:15:33.425
Sure.

01:15:33.425 --> 01:15:34.425
Very awesome.

01:15:34.425 --> 01:15:40.825
So, tell us a little bit about what you like to personally do, because I think when I contacted

01:15:40.825 --> 01:15:43.105
you at one point, you were in the wilderness.

01:15:43.105 --> 01:15:45.865
Are you someone who enjoys going out into the wilderness?

01:15:45.865 --> 01:15:52.505
Yeah. You know, I grew up being a, you know, a Boy Scout. My parents were avid adventurers.

01:15:53.305 --> 01:15:58.505
And so from a very young age, I was, you know, I have a picture of myself, I think at three or

01:15:58.505 --> 01:16:02.665
four years old, going down some whitewater rapids in the middle of a canoe with my parents.

01:16:04.105 --> 01:16:10.185
I was, I was born into it. So the outdoors is my, it's my place. It's my sanctuary.

01:16:10.185 --> 01:16:17.385
It's where I find my peace. You know, I've been an avid climber, cross country skier,

01:16:17.385 --> 01:16:23.625
all that. I love outdoor sports, whether it's in the summertime, I do paddleboarding, kayaking.

01:16:24.585 --> 01:16:30.825
And winters, I do, you know, skiing, all sorts of stuff. I just love being outside. If I could

01:16:30.825 --> 01:16:38.585
live outside, I would. That's my, that's my jam for sure. And, and it's always been whether I was

01:16:38.585 --> 01:16:45.305
a musician or creating that way or doing this, you know, where I found my, you know, my, my,

01:16:45.305 --> 01:16:50.265
my peace was in the woods. And it continues to this day.

01:16:50.265 --> 01:16:50.765
Bye.

01:16:50.765 --> 01:16:51.265
Bye.

01:16:51.265 --> 01:16:51.765
Oh, wow.

01:16:51.765 --> 01:16:53.765
You

01:16:53.765 --> 01:16:54.265
Wait.

01:16:54.265 --> 01:16:56.065
That is very awesome.

01:16:56.065 --> 01:16:57.365
This has been so amazing.

01:16:57.365 --> 01:16:59.665
I just think we had the most amazing conversation.

01:17:00.165 --> 01:17:02.565
And I could keep talking to you, but I think people were like,

01:17:02.865 --> 01:17:04.265
oh, my gosh, this is really long.

01:17:04.265 --> 01:17:04.965
I can't listen.

01:17:06.865 --> 01:17:07.765
We don't want it to be.

01:17:07.765 --> 01:17:09.765
We don't want to

01:17:09.765 --> 01:17:13.365
You just got a role and you feel like you can talk for hours, but you have to realize that,

01:17:13.365 --> 01:17:15.205
oh, people are bored now.

01:17:15.205 --> 01:17:16.205
I know.

01:17:16.205 --> 01:17:17.205
I always think about that.

01:17:17.205 --> 01:17:19.965
On conversation, we need to talk for another hour, but then I think people look at it and

01:17:19.965 --> 01:17:21.925
they think, oh my gosh, I can't listen that long.

01:17:21.925 --> 01:17:26.205
Like I never want to turn anyone off to like thinking, oh my gosh, that's too long.

01:17:26.205 --> 01:17:28.045
I can't handle that.

01:17:28.045 --> 01:17:31.805
It's so true. You might have to split it into two.

01:17:31.805 --> 01:17:36.845
Was there anything that we haven't talked about or you wanted to mention or advice or

01:17:37.205 --> 01:17:40.085
just something that you didn't get to say that you wanted to say?

01:17:40.085 --> 01:17:40.585
Just some

01:17:40.585 --> 01:17:46.865
I kind of don't want to say advice on my Daddy Don podcast because I'm not giving advice.

01:17:46.865 --> 01:17:50.785
I'm giving my perspective and it's, and it's definitely one-sided.

01:17:50.785 --> 01:17:51.785
It's just me.

01:17:51.785 --> 01:17:53.425
If people can relate to it, fantastic.

01:17:53.425 --> 01:17:55.505
If you don't, you can take tidbits here and there.

01:17:55.505 --> 01:18:00.205
I think with everything you consume, we can take tidbits of information out of the grand

01:18:00.205 --> 01:18:01.205
scheme of things.

01:18:01.205 --> 01:18:06.145
And that's what I hope with the Daddy Don podcast is you can find something that's relatable.

01:18:06.145 --> 01:18:09.545
And I hope a lot of people listen and send their feedback.

01:18:09.545 --> 01:18:11.265
I love getting feedback.

01:18:11.265 --> 01:18:13.545
I love talking to people.

01:18:13.545 --> 01:18:15.145
The more the better.

01:18:15.145 --> 01:18:16.945
Please send me all your comments.

01:18:16.945 --> 01:18:17.945
Please say hi.

01:18:17.945 --> 01:18:20.145
I just, I love talking to people.

01:18:20.145 --> 01:18:23.905
So do I. That's why I love doing this podcast.

01:18:23.905 --> 01:18:25.625
I just talk to all these amazing people like you.

01:18:27.025 --> 01:18:27.705
Amazing.

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So amazing. Well, thank you so much.

01:18:31.385 --> 01:18:32.665
This has been just outstanding.

01:18:32.665 --> 01:18:34.505
And the people need to check out our books. Right.

01:18:34.505 --> 01:18:36.905
So what do we have? We have the Lazy Cross books,

01:18:37.185 --> 01:18:39.625
which is the series Itty Bitty Vixen,

01:18:40.025 --> 01:18:44.545
which the first one's out sharing his adventurous wife, first time wife share.

01:18:44.945 --> 01:18:48.545
And the second one is sharing his gift twice used by two men.

01:18:48.865 --> 01:18:50.905
I believe we have three more coming out. Right.

01:18:50.905 --> 01:18:51.905
Isn't there five total?

01:18:51.905 --> 01:18:52.745
Amazing.

01:18:52.745 --> 01:18:57.305
There's five total, they're ecstatic, they're amazing.

01:18:57.305 --> 01:19:00.145
I encourage everyone to take a listen to them.

01:19:00.145 --> 01:19:02.025
They're fantastic.

01:19:02.025 --> 01:19:03.185
They really are.

01:19:03.185 --> 01:19:04.025
All right.

01:19:04.025 --> 01:19:06.625
They really are. And then we did Decadent Erotica together,

01:19:06.625 --> 01:19:09.725
which we did several stories within that that I wrote.

01:19:10.325 --> 01:19:14.525
And then you're going to be working on Neighborhood Sex Secrets.

01:19:14.525 --> 01:19:16.525
Yes, I can't wait.

01:19:16.525 --> 01:19:20.525
That book, some people are too like, too extreme for them and they're just like,

01:19:20.525 --> 01:19:26.025
whoa, like I just, but again, I love to do all different things.

01:19:26.065 --> 01:19:27.865
And that was just really fun.

01:19:27.865 --> 01:19:29.865
Deeper

01:19:29.865 --> 01:19:38.425
So much fun, so many good things that we've done, and I'm excited to do more.

01:19:38.425 --> 01:19:43.945
Absolutely, Ruan. You're amazing. I just love talking to you. We really have to do this more often.

01:19:43.945 --> 01:19:45.945
We do. Let's do it again.

01:19:45.945 --> 01:19:47.305
Totally would love to chat again.

01:19:47.305 --> 01:19:49.105
I feel like I could keep talking to you now.

01:19:49.105 --> 01:19:51.305
Like, that doesn't feel like we should stop.

01:19:51.305 --> 01:19:54.385
But I look at the clock and I'm like, OK, I guess we should stop.

01:19:54.385 --> 01:19:57.825
Well, I'll have you on my podcast and we'll talk everything D.S.

01:19:57.825 --> 01:20:03.985
Yes, absolutely. I love, I love the whole Daddy Dom kink. I think it's very sexy and it's just,

01:20:03.985 --> 01:20:08.465
it's a fantastic thing. The whole power exchange and the trust and it's amazing.

01:20:08.465 --> 01:20:13.345
Well then, now that you have my perspective, I will have you on to get your perspective.

01:20:13.345 --> 01:20:18.305
Awesome. Well, thank you so much. And again, oh, you should stay where people can find you.

01:20:18.305 --> 01:20:25.025
People can find me on Daddy Dom Podcast on Spotify or on Apple Podcasts.

01:20:25.425 --> 01:20:32.425
And all of my audios can be found on Patreon backslash InMyHandsAudio or,

01:20:32.425 --> 01:20:36.865
uh, you know, Twitter and, and, and Instagram is where I hang out a lot is

01:20:36.925 --> 01:20:41.425
InMyHandsVA on Twitter and InMyHandsAudio on Instagram.

01:20:41.485 --> 01:20:42.605
So come and say hi.

01:20:42.605 --> 01:20:43.105
you

01:20:43.105 --> 01:20:46.065
Very awesome. Well, thank you so much. You have an amazing evening.

01:20:46.065 --> 01:20:47.745
You too. Thank you so much for having me.

01:20:47.745 --> 01:20:48.585
Okay, bye-bye.

01:20:48.585 --> 01:20:49.085
Bye-bye.

By Speaker
Ruan Willow

Hello, everyone. This is Ruan Willow of the Oh, Fuck Yeah! with Ruan
Willow podcast. And I'm super excited to talk to my guest today. On my
podcast, I talk about sex and sexuality, erotica fiction, and I have guests on
that talk about sex or sexuality in some way, shape or form. Today, I have in
my hands, Audio, who I have narrated books with and we have a lot of more
books coming. So I'm so excited. Welcome. I'm so excited to talk with you.

Inmyhandsaudio

Thank you so much. I am super excited to have Bia here as we have always
interacted through you know email and our voice clips but never have had a
conversation in person so this is super exciting.

Ruan Willow

It is, it's so much fun. I was thinking that too. It's like, we've always
conversed through email or, you know, on, on Twitter or something like that's
just, it's really cool to be able to talk with you. It's like super fun. Yay.

Inmyhandsaudio

Yay!

Ruan Willow

So tell us what you do and where people can find you. First of all.

Inmyhandsaudio

Wow. Well, uh, I started doing erotic audio type work back in 2017. So we're
coming up to almost year seven of doing.

Ruan Willow

Thanks for watching. Wow.

Inmyhandsaudio

I did it, started it with just kind of on a lark. I was finishing my, I had
finished my music career and I was just looking for a creative outlet. So I
started doing some, you know, suitable for work voice stuff, but was really,
it wasn't really creative. It wasn't really, you know, getting where I was at.
I was just getting out of a, a relationship and trying to explore my own
sexuality as well. And I was on Twitter one day and came across this kind of
like ASMR kind of erotic,

Ruan Willow

Yeah. one.

Inmyhandsaudio

you know, type of person. And I went down that rabbit hole and out of the
blue, I just decided, you know, I'll send, you know, send this person, you
know, a clip of my voice and say, Hey, if you

Ruan Willow

Hey.

Inmyhandsaudio

ever want to do something together, blah, blah, blah, blah. Never heard from
her for about two weeks. And then about two weeks later, I heard from her and
she said, listen, I sent this audio to you from, uh, from, from you to, um,
about three or four of my friends. And they all said, your voice is dangerous.
So I tried and I was listening to, I guess it was literotica time

Ruan Willow

Hmm.

Inmyhandsaudio

where I was posting some things, some of my written work. And so I posted some
stuff on there. I was listening to all the audios that were like 10 minutes,
15 minutes plus. I even get my audios past three and a half minutes. And it
was like, where do they come up with this content? How do they get, how do
they go so long? Right. And again, like, you know, over time you get, you get
better at it. You get, uh, you know, your imagination flows and you're
getting, you know,

Ruan Willow

Yeah.

Inmyhandsaudio

broader sexuality of yourself and, and of others. And it just, it just evolves
over time. And that's where I got my start. And, you know, now in my hands, I
have a Patreon account at patreon.com backslash in my hands. I've started a
new project, which is a podcast, kind of like what we're doing here called the
Daddy Dom podcast. And I'm super excited about that. I just launched that in
November and you can find that on Spotify and Apple podcasts. So I'm super
excited to see where that project and that little side thing goes. And I'm
always looking for new and things, exciting things to do, such as at narrating
for some of your books.

Ruan Willow

Yes. Oh my gosh. I have so much to say about all of that. First of all, I
definitely, your voice is dangerous. People, you know, especially women love
your voice and you know, it's true. Once you start you're doing little
snippets, but what's so funny to me about that is I started on Twitter too and
I started just posting just posts that were just like text about different,
you know, just erotic things and I started doing some images and then one day
it was around Christmas time. I said, you know, Merry Christmas, Happy New
Year. It was a simple total post and everyone was like, I love your voice. And
I was like, what? Like I was confused. I was surprised. And so it started to
evolve from there. I started to read those texts instead of just typing them
and it just completely exploded. And I think it's so cool that you started
this podcast because it's so much fun. It's such a fun kink. I think it's
extraordinarily sexy and intense. So tell us what made you choose this
particular Daddy Dom arena?

Inmyhandsaudio

Well, you know, as I say, you know, um, becoming kind of a daddy Dom, I was
never that, you know, I was always, you know, in service to other people, uh,
you know, being an entertainer and, uh, being in the spotlight and the
backstage of, of entertainment and whatnot. I was always kind of servicing
other people, servicing the crowd, servicing, you know,

Ruan Willow

You know what?

Inmyhandsaudio

painters and stuff like that. I never really, you know, I had confidence in,
in being a performer, but in my personal life, I didn't have much confidence.
And, you know, I was in a relationship that actually just opened up my eyes to
a whole other world of things.

Ruan Willow

Hmm.

Inmyhandsaudio

I wanted to, with the podcast, I wanted to kind of share my journey, not with
just the in my hands audio, but all the mistakes I've made, you know,
becoming, you know, the person I am today, all the positive things, all the
things I can relate to all the things that, you know, that we enjoy in a DS,
you know, DDLG relationship, and my perspective as a daddy Dom, here's one of
the things that I that made me a better daddy Dom in my life. And that was
listening and the experiences of subs.

Ruan Willow

Hmm.

Inmyhandsaudio

No, you know, myself, but no, no, your know, your partner. So listening to the
experiences of other littles other subs in this community really made me
understand what it was I was supposed to be and what I wanted to be for my
partners in my, in my, in my life and in my audios. And so, you know, what
better way to express that than to combine, you know, my little tidbits of,
you know, Hey, here's who I am like it or not. And it was as attach a related
audio that I've done in the past that relates to the subject at hand. And you
know, it's just a format that I think people will like it. There are no, none
of the podcasts or episodes are over 30 minutes when, you know, 45 and

Ruan Willow

There's

Inmyhandsaudio

20 minutes. So I want to keep them in bite size, you know, you know, portions,
nothing like a, you know, a Joe Rogan podcast, it's like three hours long. I
just want to keep them bite size that you can do when you're brushing your
teeth, you know, you know, driving to work or something like that, that you
can carry that thought throughout the day and kind of digest it and kind of,
you know, make it your own sort of thing and have questions there afterwards.
And it was just my way of expressing myself and my journey.

Ruan Willow

I think that's amazing and I think it's just wonderful that, you know, you're,
you're expressing yourself and you're including things you've learned along
the way in your journey, because I think this is something that some people
really don't necessarily understand. Like if they aren't a part of this
particular kink or this particular world, they have certain views of it and
some may be, some may be negative, some may be positive. What do you feel is
the biggest challenge in dealing with that? Or do you mostly run into people
who already know what the kink is and are interested in it?

Inmyhandsaudio

Both actually, you know, I think a lot of people have a problem with the term
daddy Yeah, a lot of people in you know outside of I'll say in the vanilla
world

Ruan Willow

Yeah.

Inmyhandsaudio

You can't relate to using that in a relationship or a sexual term. It just
means something completely different

Ruan Willow

I'm trying

Inmyhandsaudio

They have no idea because they've never been exposed to that or it's just not
something of interest to them and you know, right Okay, you know that's
totally fine, you know as long as you're you know, as long as you don't you
know Try to put in your input without any education educate yourself on it and
then what no problem I'll have a great discussion with you but if you haven't
educated yourself on it then just say Not my thing and you can go away and I
can go my way and we can be happy that way But chiming in without any
education or you know getting the information for yourself Yeah, kind of how
do you how do you how do you have a conversation that way you can't so I get
both sides you know and the ones who are into that kink or into that type of
lifestyle or relationship who can relate and

Ruan Willow

Yeah.

Inmyhandsaudio

You know, I think you know with the DS relationships and in scenarios and
interactions that we have again There are that in itself is so diverse Yes, so
individualistic. It's just like everything else

Ruan Willow

Yes.

Inmyhandsaudio

So, you know my position on you know How I am and how I interact may not be
the same as your ideals or you know Joe's ideals or whosoever's ideals, you
know, you might have a different perception of what a daddy-dom is Outside of
what I am and that's okay, too You know, I just wanted to give my perceptions
and my you know Observations of myself and the things that I've learned over
time

Ruan Willow

And I think this is why people need to shed their judgments because, again,
there's such diversity in there. Just because one is one way doesn't mean
they're all that way, you know? But a lot of people do have judgments with
that. And I've run into that with writing some books, too, because I have
written books and stories in this particular genre. And I've added things in
the bottom. Like, you know, this is referring to leader in the bedroom. Like,
I have to explain it because some people will review the work and attack it.
Like you said, being uneducated on what it actually is or means judgments. And
so it really is difficult presenting such content to the world because there
are people that are just they're uneducated.

Inmyhandsaudio

Well, I think part of that, the, the other side of, of doing a podcast, like
the daddy Dom podcast is to bring people in step-by-step into education and
see someone else's perspective on this and listen

Ruan Willow

pro

Inmyhandsaudio

to what they have to say on it. It's a step. It's a step in the right
direction. You know, if you throw someone, you know, all the stuff at them and
it's extreme and whatnot. Yeah, of course I would be turned off too and run
away as well.

Ruan Willow

Of course.

Inmyhandsaudio

No, doing, you know, a podcast of getting into the, you know, the, the things
that, you know, matter like, you know, trust and, and care and

Ruan Willow

and care.

Inmyhandsaudio

all those things, and those steps are important to say, you know, this isn't
what it might seem in, you know, in porn or in social media or something like
that, with all the fake Doms and fake subs that are out there, who are just
looking for maybe attention or something like that. This is actually real
stuff. And to have a, you know, a venue and a forum, which, you know, I can
hopefully, you know, bring people in step-by-step with baby steps and show
them, Hey, you know, a Dom isn't this, you know, nasty, aggressive, you know,
beating person is actually cares and loves and, and wants to be, you know,
that, that pinnacle of support.

Ruan Willow

Oh, absolutely. And even, yeah, just, you know, there's such diversity in
kink, but there's huge diversity in daddy doms, too. I mean, there's some that
are more into BDSM and might be more harsh and disciplinary than you go all
the way down to one, you know, some that are more into pleasure and
caretaking. I mean, it's just this giant gradient. But people, yeah, people
who aren't educated don't understand that either.

Inmyhandsaudio

Yeah. And you can have, you know, I like anybody, you know, you can wear
different hats at different times. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Be that, you know,
pleasure Dom on Tuesday through Wednesday.

Ruan Willow

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Inmyhandsaudio

And then, you know, on the weekend, you know, you might just want to take out
some, you know, frustration and aggression and have some really rough sex. So
I think you can incorporate all those things. And that's why you can't be just
one thing, you know, you can't, you know, people like to put things into
categories. You know, our functionality is as humans works better that way,
even though it's all a gray area, we like to make things black and white for
ourselves until we get more educated and find out what it is that attracts you
to a certain thing. And that's what it's all about. It's finding your
individuality within a certain realm.

Ruan Willow

Oh, absolutely. And I think that's so true. I mean, just like our sexuality,
it's not, it's not narrow. It's wide and they can visit different places and
different scenarios. And even if we visit at one time, doesn't mean we have to
do it again. Or maybe we just want to keep it in one area of our lives. It's
so much more diverse and fluid than a lot of people seem to realize.

Inmyhandsaudio

Yeah, and my hat's off to those who have the courage to explore that for
themselves, you know, because it's really an internal journey that you were
expressing externally. And to have that, you know, courage to come out of your
shell and show that inside of you externally, it takes a lot of power.

Ruan Willow

It does. I used the word earlier, trust, I think, probably, I don't know. What
do you think? Is that the top most thing that is needed in a daddy-dom
relationship?

Inmyhandsaudio

Absolutely. And you have to remember, you know, a dom does not choose their
sub. A sub chooses their dom and it is based on that trust. It is the
pinnacle. If your sub does not trust the dom that they're with, then they will
not submit to that person. Period. That's true. That complete

Ruan Willow

period.

Inmyhandsaudio

level of trust in order to submit to their dom. And so even though the
dynamic, you know, on its surface looks like the dom has all the power and has
all role, it is actually quite the opposite where it is the sub who is giving
of themselves to the dom. The dom does not take. The dom just receives.

Ruan Willow

And so many people don't understand that. They see the Dom, people in the
vanilla world especially, they just see the Dom as someone who's domineering,
maybe even abusive, like they're deciding everything, they're a dictator, and
it's completely the opposite.

Inmyhandsaudio

Yeah, exactly, exactly. You know, it all depends on the, the dynamic you have
between your dom and sub, but remember that, you know, the sub is giving
access, you know, permission for this

Ruan Willow

Yes.

Inmyhandsaudio

interaction to take place. Without that, dom has no power and the dom is not
their dom. You know, there's always that saying, you know, I'm a sub, I'm just
not your sub and doms don't have to understand that. And I hope, you know, I
hope doms listen to my podcast and get a better understanding of what it takes
to be, you know, truly a dom, whether it be a daddy dom or other type of dom,
is that it's, it's not, you know, all about, you know, the whips and chains
and control and all that stuff. It's actually providing a safe place where
your sub can feel safe and trustworthy with you and therefore have the
interactions that follow after that.

Ruan Willow

I'm really glad you said that because when I think of when I thought of your
podcast, I thought of just subs wanting to listen to you. I hadn't thought
about other Daddy Doms listening to you to learn and be exposed to what you
know and what you've been through. Like that's, that's really, I mean, that
makes it a full round thing, but honestly, I had thought of it just as the
subs wanting to listen to what you say and be, you know, every, you know,
glued to everything you say, but yeah, that is, that is so true.

Inmyhandsaudio

No, I just recently got a series of direct messages from a listener and who is
in a relationship

Ruan Willow

Mmm.

Inmyhandsaudio

who is now trying to, you know, expand their relationship into a DS type of
relationship as well. And they both listened to my podcast.

Ruan Willow

Mm-hmm. Nice.

Inmyhandsaudio

Nice. No. And what, you know, every time I think, you know, am I doing
anything that makes it makes it difficult, you know, and I get some some some
reply like this and a comment saying, you know, I just had my partner listen
to your podcast or one of your audios and we

Ruan Willow

field.

Inmyhandsaudio

had the best sex afterwards. I'm like.

Ruan Willow

Oh, nice.

Inmyhandsaudio

That's amazing. I'm so glad I didn't touch this one or two people that way. I,
I don't care about anything else. And I think that's what it's about. You
know, it's again, communication between two people before anything starts,
before anything happens, you have to talk about it. You have to be on the same
page. You know, the hard yeses, the hard no's, the

Ruan Willow

Talk about it. You have to talk about it.

Inmyhandsaudio

soft yeses, the hard yes, the hard no's. You would like to explore what your
both your interests are. And I think, you know, part of being a dom is, is
pleasing your sub is more, the more you can please yourself, the more the sub
please you, right? Oh yeah. Again, exploring

Ruan Willow

Oh, yeah. Again. A hundred percent.

Inmyhandsaudio

together all these things as a couple and individually, I think makes you a
stronger person in the end.

Ruan Willow

And isn't it wonderful, like you said, to be that catalyst for those two to
have the great sex? Like that is just, that's like gold. Like that's just.

Inmyhandsaudio

blows my mind, makes me happy.

Ruan Willow

It's just a life hack.

Inmyhandsaudio

You like my my heart has an orgasm every time that happens. That's good.

Ruan Willow

That's what we're talking about. I love it. I love that. That's so true. That
is so true. It's so amazing. One thing I wanted to ask you as I was listening
to what you were saying, I was thinking about those people that maybe didn't
talk about stuff and someone tried something that was a no. Do you think
people can come back from that and how?

Inmyhandsaudio

Yeah, you know, I think it all just all, you know, comes down to inexperience.
And remember, I was there too. I was very inexperienced. I had no idea what a
DS relationship was, I had no idea what a daddy Dom was. I was there too. And
I made a plethora of mistakes.

Ruan Willow

Hmm.

Inmyhandsaudio

As I was innocent to this, this lifestyle is innocent to this type of kink.
And yeah, I mean, but you're going to make mistakes. And you can't beat
yourself up about them. You have to say, Well, I Jesus, wow, I didn't know
that. That was disastrous. Maybe it's gonna be better afterwards. But I think
if you come at it from an angle of you, you simply care about the people, the
person that you're in, or persons that you're interacting with, or having a
scenario with, or even a relationship within the DS dynamic, if you come at it
with a level of care, then obviously, you know, you're going to get positive
reaction, even in a negative scenario, you know, is like an oopsie. It's sort
of, you know, didn't Yeah, I didn't know, I didn't know

Ruan Willow

Sorry.

Inmyhandsaudio

how to react or do that or whatnot. I think you're going to have a, you know,
positive reaction, regardless, if you come out, it was like, I know best. And
I know what I'm doing, even though if I'm fucking up horribly, then, yeah,
you're gonna, you're gonna be out on the porch pretty soon, buddy. You know,
it's, it's not. Yeah. So I think you have to come at it from a level of,

Ruan Willow

Oh, yeah.

Inmyhandsaudio

Hey, I'm gaining experience, I might not know everything. But I want to

Ruan Willow

There's a big difference between acknowledging that and just shrinking back in
denial and either denying you did it or pretending you didn't, you know, like
that's the showing that you care. There's no, it's not in that scenario.

Inmyhandsaudio

Well, I think there's a level of, of, uh, personal embarrassment. And so
imagine, you know, or a girl coming in as a dom and, you know, but they're
new, but they've seen things and read things and they think they know how they
should act and whatnot and it doesn't quite work out well, man, I would be, I
have experienced that embarrassment, you know, and so you add up with, you
know, a greater, you know, ego and you really have to keep the ego at the
door, you know, you, you have to really kind of be small within yourself and
say, I'm

Ruan Willow

Yeah.

Inmyhandsaudio

new at this, I want to try these things. And I think if you, if you, if you
put it in the envelope of this is something for us to experience, me to
experience, I think you'll have a better interaction,

Ruan Willow

Yeah.

Inmyhandsaudio

you know, because you are in conversation, you are in communication, you know,
before, during, and after what was, what did hit the mark, what didn't hit the
mark and. And grow from there. If you come at it from just an experience of
like, you know, I think I know, and this is, I'm doing this for my pleasure,
missing the mark right off the bat.

Ruan Willow

Yeah. Oh, for sure. And I think it's pretty hard to come back from that
because that other person is always going to be wondering, are they, you know,
are they doing this for themselves?

Inmyhandsaudio

Yeah, yeah. Do they have my best interests at heart? No, not, you know,
they're doing it for

Ruan Willow

Hmm.

Inmyhandsaudio

their own, you know, whatever the sadomasochism or whatever that case may be
or power trip or whatever the case may be. And, and that's just not the
dynamic of the true dynamic of, of a DS relationship. And yeah, now I I'll be
honest, I have, I have failed miserably at that and, you know, lost a, I
wouldn't say a relationship, but, but an interaction, a scenario I lost out
pretty big on that because I missed, I didn't miss step in a bad way. I just
didn't hit the mark. And I think it was just based on my inexperience of, of
what I knew at the time. But, you know, you roll with the punches, you grow,
you take that experience with you and you say, Hmm, what did I, you have to
sit self-reflection, right? What did I do? What was, what was, what did I do
wrong in this situation that I can improve on and make myself better? And, you
know, again, going back to the Daddy Dom podcast, that's what it's all about.
It's about how can I be the best Daddy Dom for you? I'm still learning after,
you know, 10 years, I am still learning what that is. And so I've started, Oh
no, go ahead. I've had the opportunity

Ruan Willow

So you started, oh no, go ahead.

Inmyhandsaudio

to talk to other, you know, Doms and Daddy Doms who are much more experienced
than I am, you know, and it's been that in itself. I think, you know, Doms
themselves feel, I think that we feel a little bit isolated and a little bit
more, you know, it's something that we don't talk amongst ourselves, but I
think more of us should. And with the interactions and the conversations I've
had

Ruan Willow

But I-

Inmyhandsaudio

with other Doms and Daddy Doms like myself has been such a world of
information and gratification and ratification that I am doing the right
thing, that I am on the right track for myself, you know.

Ruan Willow

Oh, yeah, absolutely. So I think that's valuable to say, too, like you started
this journey long before you started doing any audio, right? Like this was
something you were already a journey you were already on.

Inmyhandsaudio

That's correct.

Ruan Willow

I think that's just think that's valuable for people to know because, you
know, some people just, you know, experience matters, not that you can't not
have experience, but it does have, like you said, you've learned, you've
experienced, you've been around more things because you've been doing it
longer, even longer than you've been doing the audio for it.

Inmyhandsaudio

Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, if I jumped into this without knowing anything, I'd
be pretty bad at it.

Ruan Willow

at it.

Inmyhandsaudio

You know, I wouldn't have any point of reference. So I think you have to gain
some experience and point of reference before you actually start, you know,
you're barking out nonsense out of your mouth. So yeah, again, it goes back to
the education, educate yourself, you know, get

Ruan Willow

So, you have.

Inmyhandsaudio

experience for yourself, and then maybe you can have, you know, some input on
this topic.

Ruan Willow

So when we're talking about daddy Dom little girl, is that something that you,
that you delve into? Cause I know there's different, again, there's different
levels of daddy Dom. Some do the little girl things, some don't, some say
littles, some say just good girl. Where are you on that gradient?

Inmyhandsaudio

I think I'm on the middle ground of that gradient completely swayed one way or
the other, but I'm definitely on the middle ground of that. I find myself more
of a, I guess, I guess the best scenario I would consider myself, which is
funny because I just recorded a podcast for the Daddy Dom podcast right on
this, this, this, this subject is I being the teacher, student, yeah, the
instructor, that's what

Ruan Willow

you

Inmyhandsaudio

I relate to most, you know, is, is being, you know, that one who guides, who
teaches,

Ruan Willow

Mm. you

Inmyhandsaudio

who nurtures. And I think that's what I relate to most now, that doesn't mean
I have other facets of me that I like to explore, because I do like to explore
them all. But I think on a day to day basis, I think that's who I am. I'm
very, you know, I'm very easygoing, you know, I'm very jovial, sometimes even,
you know, I'd say juvenile. So I think that's what I would relate to most as
a, as a Daddy Dom.

Ruan Willow

So interesting, and when you, I think part of what people don't like too,
yeah, like you mentioned the whole people not liking the daddy, they may not
like the little girl, and people on the outside may see that as like some sort
of incest, which it's not at all, but I think some people on the outside that
don't really understand it might see it that way.

Inmyhandsaudio

Absolutely. And, and, and again, it's just comes from a, and I don't like to
say the word ignorance, but it is, I mean, it's, it's a harsh, you're just,
you're just, you're just not, you know, educated on this subject, you know,
you know, being, you know, and there's so many facets of being a little on the
sub side, you know, there's, there's all everything from, you know, age
regression to just feeling like you just need to be, you know, have a
position. So it is a power dynamic, a DS relation. What style of power dynamic
do you like, you know, and it makes you feel

Ruan Willow

Oh, I don't.

Inmyhandsaudio

comfortable. And in the, you know, the DDLG, you know, realm, I would say
coddling, cuddling, cared for, you know, princess, pedestal praise kink is a
big one in that as well. And I think

Ruan Willow

Yeah.

Inmyhandsaudio

all those things kind of, you know, gel in that area. And yeah, it has
absolutely nothing to do with, you know, you know, family sex or anything like
that. It's actually the complete opposite

Ruan Willow

That is bad.

Inmyhandsaudio

is it has to do more of the, you know, the teacher student, you know, that
type of relationship where you have, you know, someone who is, you know,
possibly older, more experienced, I would say, who is, you know, teaching,
guiding, learning, you know, and setting on that and as well as, you know,
promoting and phrasing as well. Those, all those things kind of encompass into
the DDLG as general, I would say generally into the DDLG kind of kink.

Ruan Willow

Yeah, absolutely. And see all those things. And Praise Cank is a huge one. And
I think I saw recently where I was scrolling through your stuff, how Daddy
Doms can have a Praise Cank too, right?

Inmyhandsaudio

Absolutely. I mean, you know, we're human. We need to know when we're doing
good. I want to know if I've done something good. I also want to know what
I'm, you know, like I said, you know, my inexperience has had some disastrous
results, but I also want to know when I'm doing a good thing. And again,
communication is key to that, you know, and hey, I liked when you, you know, I
liked when you fucked me this morning. Okay. Noted. We're having morning sex
every day.

Ruan Willow

Bye. Exactly.

Inmyhandsaudio

Exactly. You know, I liked when you paraded me through the restaurant to our,
to our, to our, to our tables. Subs also have to, you know, give that positive
reinforcement to their dom because them, they're going to get more of that.
You know, if you want more praise, if you want more of something, then tell
the person that you are getting it from that you want more of it. So show you
have to show that. And, and I love that that's the type

Ruan Willow

show.

Inmyhandsaudio

of feedback I want to get. So I become a better daddy dog.

Ruan Willow

Right, like you really can't have that kind of relationship with someone who
isn't going to talk to you about what they like or what they like in sex. It
just, it can't, it just doesn't work at all.

Inmyhandsaudio

No, but I think you have a lot of people who are reserved on this subject.
They haven't opened up. Yes. So it's difficult for them to open up to someone
else. It is.

Ruan Willow

It is, but that's the trust. You need that trust there.

Inmyhandsaudio

Absolutely. The exploration comes from within first before you can, you know,
have it, you know, go externally. So it is, and a lot of, you know, a lot of
people come through, you know, a background of trauma and whatnot. And again,
it's baby steps. Give yourself the breath of time. Don't rush it. You know,
give yourself the breath of time for me. You know, I, I'm not going to lie,
I'm 55 years old. I didn't come into this realm until I was in my mid forties.
There's time. Yes.

Ruan Willow

Yes.

Inmyhandsaudio

You know, give yourself the space, give yourself the place, you know, give
yourself the time to experience it on your own terms.

Ruan Willow

I love that you said that, and I think a lot of people don't feel comfortable
exploring their sexuality, at least in our country and in the U.S., until they
are middle aged, and some of them still aren't even then. But it's more common
to see it in middle age than it is in younger people.

Inmyhandsaudio

Absolutely. I think we're going to see a big change in that in the coming
decades. We have this new generation who's been brought up on the internet,
have been brought up with broad scope of

Ruan Willow

Right.

Inmyhandsaudio

very accessible sex through the internet. And good and bad, but I think that
generation is

Ruan Willow

True.

Inmyhandsaudio

going to figure out how to manage all of that. And so I always noticed that in
those younger crowds bringing up sex, bringing up different kinks, bringing up
different genres, pretty commonplace. It's not boo anymore. It's pretty open.
And I think that's one of the positive sides of all this internet and
exploration and accessible sex and whatnot is people are talking about it.
People are open to that subject and they're not afraid. Like where I came
from, where it was very taboo. So I think that is one of the most positive
things about having

Ruan Willow

Right.

Inmyhandsaudio

the internet and having sex very accessible is that people are more likely to
talk about it and have conversations about it rather than hide in their room
and pretend.

Ruan Willow

Yeah, I mean, just think about all the different, you know, sexual orientation
labels we have now that is commonplace for younger people and older people are
still struggling, some older people are still struggling with accepting all of
that. Like I've run into people who say, why do I have to say she, her, I'm a
woman. Why do I have to say she, her, and right there already, you can see the
difference in someone who is reluctant to even say, why do I have to say she,
her, you know?

Inmyhandsaudio

I tried to negate all of that by saying beautiful people. Yeah. I always, I
always want to say hello, beautiful people. Well, you can't deny any of that,
right? Meet someone. I asked them their name and address them by their name
continuously through all that conversation. So that negates all the pronouns
completely, because I, I am, I'm giving you the highest form of respect by
calling you your name.

Ruan Willow

Yeah.

Inmyhandsaudio

Yeah. You know, that and it's about humans being interactive thing with
humans. You are human. I am human. That's how we are. And let's interact in a
humanic way. It's, you know, so I will address you by your name, you'll
address me by my name, and we'll have a great time. And we're beautiful
people. You know, I don't care what gender you are. I don't care what you, you
know, identify as, you're a beautiful person, just like everyone else on
earth, and I will accept you as that. And however you relate to yourself
internally or externally, that's fine. That is wonderful. I'm so glad that you
were empowering yourself with that. For me, it's one on one interaction with
the human being I have in front of me.

Ruan Willow

That is a great way to look at it. And identifying that person as just that
person. They don't have to explain themselves with any pronouns. They are just
their name. That's who they are. Yeah, I think that's a fantastic way to go
about that.

Inmyhandsaudio

about that. Right? A pronoun is a group of people.

Ruan Willow

Right, right.

Inmyhandsaudio

Right. And being is an individual. So talk to the person like you're talking
to them.

Ruan Willow

Yes.

Inmyhandsaudio

Yes. Person. Don't talk to them as a group. That's so true. Don't talk to them
as a category. Right. Talk to them as your person. So hi, you know, hi, Ahmad.
How are you? Fantastic. Good to see you today. You know, don't say, you know,
don't categorize yourself in a group. Don't categorize yourself as a
designation. You know, talk to the person individually, one-on-one. That makes
sense.

Ruan Willow

I think that's a fantastic way to think about it.

Ruan Willow

So when you were first, you know, exposed to the whole Daddy Dom thing, what
was it that was like that piqued your interest? What was that first thing was
like, oh, I think I might be interested in this? Do you remember that moment
or that experience?

Inmyhandsaudio

Wow, that is a phenomenal question. I think it would be hard to explain
because it has been such an evolution. But I did have a propensity for the
experienced Dom and inexperienced Sub.

Ruan Willow

Uh-huh.

Inmyhandsaudio

I think that's what it was for me because I had so many experiences throughout
my life that I did have a lot of wisdom and knowledge. And holding someone by
the hand and watching them grow and seeing them learn was such a high for me,
totally non-sexual. Just that experience of teaching someone and watching them
grow and learn and make their own mistakes and everything like that was such a
huge love for me. That's what truly attracted me to that type of kink and
whatnot. And sexually, through the In My Hands, I think for me, I've explored
a lot of things in the DS realm of things. Everything from a different
experience to full BDSM and very, very rough sexual play. And I've enjoyed all
of them. I would say at the very beginning, it wasn't a sexual thing for me.
It was love of, oh, I really love this dynamic. And the sexual part of it came

Ruan Willow

Hmm.

Inmyhandsaudio

afterwards through, as I say, now six years of doing audios.

Ruan Willow

That's fascinating. I think that's so interesting, too, because I think people
come into their kinks in so many different ways. Some people are exposed to
certain things as children and that just clicks for them. Some people
experience something in their teenage years, their first sexual experiences,
something they watch. I mean, it's just so varied, but, you know, most people,
I feel like a lot of people can pinpoint something that was their trigger or
something that, you know, kind of led them down the path to that kink.

Inmyhandsaudio

Yeah. You know what? I could probably go back and, you know, to maybe my, you
know, my first, you know, girlfriend, I would say, you know, talking about the
voice gang. When I went on Twitter that day and found this voice that
triggered something inside me, I didn't realize what it was, but it was the
voice of my, one of my first girlfriends that really opened me up sexually.
And I was like, what, what's going on? What is happening to me? You know? And
I have, I never knew that audio erotica or ASMR was a thing until I heard that
voice on Twitter

Ruan Willow

It's

Inmyhandsaudio

and something triggered inside me that was like, what is going on? I need
this, right?

Ruan Willow

Bye. I love it.

Inmyhandsaudio

And then you just go down that rabbit hole.

Ruan Willow

Oh, absolutely. I totally understand that. Yeah. And that, you know, people,
some people are definitely more auditory. Like they need to hear things or
that's their trigger. That's their little click thing. And, but not everybody
is that way, but yeah, like you said, it just hits you because you were
exposed to it. It was just like this avalanche or, you know, revelation.

Inmyhandsaudio

Yeah. Yeah. You don't know until you know. Right. And I think that's the
wonderful thing about

Ruan Willow

Right.

Inmyhandsaudio

exploring all this stuff is go until you know, you know, they always have
those little means

Ruan Willow

Yeah.

Inmyhandsaudio

is that, you know, you watch some, you know, some sort of weird and wonderful
kink or something like that. And your brain says, Oh my God, but the other
parts of you have another idea.

Ruan Willow

So when you first started, were you doing a lot of stuff on Literatica? Is
that kind of where you were loading a bunch of your audios or what was your
first foray into doing it in my hands?

Inmyhandsaudio

Do it in my hands. No, my first foray into in my hands was on Literotica. I
wrote, I think, four or five written stories. I posted there. The relationship
I was in at the time said I was really good at sexting.

Ruan Willow

And I should

Inmyhandsaudio

I should, you know, dive into more of that. So I wrote some stuff. And then as
I say, I, you know, I met someone on Twitter who did the vocal thing. And so I
tried that as well. And I figured, you know, listen, I used it as an
expression of myself. If anyone listened or didn't, I didn't care. An outlet.
I needed to express myself. All these things, all these question marks I had
within myself, I needed to explore those. And what better way than to hit
record on my phone and have a blog of all the fantasies that I have.

Ruan Willow

Oh. Mm-hmm.

Inmyhandsaudio

And if I post them somewhere that someone else may or may not enjoy, all the
better.

Ruan Willow

Yeah.

Inmyhandsaudio

I truly, honestly did it for myself in the beginning. And I still do for
myself in the beginning. And if anybody can relate out there to anything that
I do, then that is just, you know, icing on the cake.

Ruan Willow

Oh, absolutely, absolutely. You know, and I think it's I think for me, too, I
feel like in many ways it's kind of like I'm sharing my sexuality with the
world. And some people that is like taboo, like you shouldn't do that. And
other people absolutely adore it.

Inmyhandsaudio

Absolutely. And I think we're seeing a trend to the people who are more open,
obviously, and then to it as well, as opposed to where, you know, my
generation, where I came from, which is fantastic. And I love that.

Ruan Willow

Yeah.

Inmyhandsaudio

Yeah, I think, you know, for me, uh, at the time of the life that, you know,
at this period that I was in, I, A, I had no creative outlet. I had finished
my music career and, uh, I was just kind of writing, I had, I had stuff on my
old Twitter that was called love letters and lust layers.

Ruan Willow

Oh, nice one.

Inmyhandsaudio

And um, I think I had over 400 posts with those tags before I lost my Twitter.

Ruan Willow

Oh, and you lost it?

Inmyhandsaudio

Uh, yeah, I had like, I don't know, people following me and it was just a, uh,
once Elon Musk took over, there was no one else to there to, you know, him,
you know, and it was just a disaster. So that's from last year.

Ruan Willow

No.

Inmyhandsaudio

So I usually actually say, how long have you been doing this? November of last
year, because I start all over again with everything.

Ruan Willow

It's so painful. These assholes don't know what they're doing when they just
are messing with people's lives and they're just kind of just assholes.

Inmyhandsaudio

You know, here's the thing is that I find too, and I spoke with a good friend
of mine on Twitter and whatnot, is that, you know, they're dissolving
communities.

Ruan Willow

Oh, yeah

Inmyhandsaudio

I saw on Twitter before very close-knit communities, whether they were 15 or a
group of 1500, whether

Ruan Willow

you

Inmyhandsaudio

it was about architecture, sex, it didn't matter. You had these really close-
knit communities.

Ruan Willow

about Yeah. All gone now.

Inmyhandsaudio

All gone now.

Ruan Willow

You're right. You're 100 percent right. I never thought of it that way, but
you're right. That's what they're doing.

Inmyhandsaudio

Yeah, whatever the algorithms they're using and direction that they're headed,
they have

Ruan Willow

you

Inmyhandsaudio

destroyed the communities of social media.

Ruan Willow

This is not benign.

Inmyhandsaudio

No, it's not.

Ruan Willow

Oh, this is very intentional. Yeah.

Inmyhandsaudio

Yeah, absolutely. It's unfortunate, but you know, for us creators, we have to,
you know,

Ruan Willow

It's

Inmyhandsaudio

evolve and change and grow those things because they're out of our control and
we have to, you know, we have to abide by the rules that are presented to us
in those realms.

Ruan Willow

We do, unfortunately. So you'll have to, you know, if you are a creator, you
have to be someone who's open to learning new things and trying new things.
And I am constantly trying new things, different things. And, you know, and
I'm not averse to it. I kind of enjoy it. I'm like, well, let's try this
today. Let's try that. I like it.

Inmyhandsaudio

Well, absolutely. Look at you. You do audio as you do books, podcasts. I mean,
you, you're, you're into more stuff than I am. And I thought I stopped.

Ruan Willow

I'm proud of you.

Inmyhandsaudio

I just started my suitable for work audio career as well. And, and so that I'm
starting on that direction as well. So, I mean, just like you, you know, you
have all these different things going on at the time. And sometimes it's a
monster that you have to feed.

Ruan Willow

Bye. See you.

Inmyhandsaudio

It's a, as I say, you know, a labor of love. So you have to give the give and
take.

Ruan Willow

So before we started the recording, we talked about how you are more of a,
someone who fly by the seat of your pants, which I very much am also. And I
mean, I do write things and I do think plan things, but I also am very, very
largely fly by the seat of my pants. Talk about that a little bit for us.

Inmyhandsaudio

I have recorded probably over 1500 audios in the last six years. I would say
less than 1% of those I've actually written something down. I simply have an
image in my head that I want to start with

Ruan Willow

Yes. OK.

Inmyhandsaudio

and I may think where I want it to go and I just hit record and that's it's
one take. There's no there's I do very little editing the only editing I do in
my audio is maybe to make it clean it up because maybe I'm out in the woods or
in my car or wherever the case may be but it's a one-hit wonder every single
time because I want it to be authentic. I want it to be genuine and I want it
to be me in the moment as I see it as I image it as I fantasize about it and I
know a lot of people do write their scripts and sit in front of a microphone
like I'm doing now in their studio and whatnot and that's great and I you know
there's a huge market for that and people love that and love the sound quality
of that. For me I have to be in the setting, I have to be in the moment, I
have to be in the headspace, I have to be in the place and to really feel the
vibration of the fantasy that I have in my head and I've recorded in some
weird and wonderful places, recorded in the forest, I've recorded in my car,
I've recorded at a gala once.

Ruan Willow

Yeah, I don't know.

Inmyhandsaudio

It was crazy.

Ruan Willow

Indeed.

Inmyhandsaudio

You know, all the ambient sounds that you hear on my recordings are simply
from my iPhone.

Ruan Willow

Mmm, wow.

Inmyhandsaudio

I use my iPhone because it's portable.

Ruan Willow

Bye.

Inmyhandsaudio

I am in that place. So if you hear me that I'm recording in a forest, I'm in
the forest if I'm in my car.

Ruan Willow

my car. Wow, that's amazing.

Inmyhandsaudio

I did one that I was in a gymnasium. I was in the gymnasium. I don't add any
sounds to it because I want to be as authentic as it possibly can. And I have
to feel, again, I'm doing this for me, I have to feel like I'm in that
setting. I have to be immersed in that fantasy.

Ruan Willow

You

Inmyhandsaudio

And what better way to do it than put yourself in that scenario, in that
setting and be in that place.

Ruan Willow

Absolutely. That's just so very authentic and amazing. And I do some of that
myself, although I don't necessarily go to the places. But when I do it on my
podcast, sometimes I have nothing planned at all. I may have like a couple of
characters in mind. I may have a sexual act in mind. I may not. But I'll sit
down and I'll just spin a tale right off the top of my head. I call it erotic
improv. Yes. Creating a story is a fantasy that I'm just living out loud.

Inmyhandsaudio

Yes.

Ruan Willow

I'm just creating it as I'm saying it.

Inmyhandsaudio

as you're seeing it, and you're evolving your mind.

Ruan Willow

Yeah, yeah.

Inmyhandsaudio

I think you might know where it was going might end up completely different.

Ruan Willow

Yes, absolutely, and that's amazing.

Inmyhandsaudio

Right. And it makes it exciting for us, for me. And I don't know where this is
going to go because I don't know where my imagination is going to take me. And
that's so exhilarating. It, you know, heightens the experience.

Ruan Willow

I kind of think of it as, and someone said this to me once about my writing,
that it's kind of like you're creating from a stream of consciousness.

Inmyhandsaudio

Absolutely, 100%.

Ruan Willow

Yep.

Inmyhandsaudio

I would say when I'm recording, I don't necessarily black out because I am
aware of my surroundings, but I'm so focused on the images in my mind and the
scenario in my mind that I am in my

Ruan Willow

right?

Inmyhandsaudio

own space.

Ruan Willow

I completely understand that. Cause sometimes it's like, it's almost like once
I'm done with it, it's like, it's almost like I wake up or I'm suddenly aware
in a different way once my story is done, actually experiencing it, living it,
brain chasm, whatever you want to call it. Immersed in it. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Inmyhandsaudio

Yes, yes, yes.

Ruan Willow

It's exactly what I feel. It's so fun to talk to somebody else who does that.

Inmyhandsaudio

It's so funny.

Ruan Willow

Cause I don't talk to many people that actually do that.

Inmyhandsaudio

No. I mean, again, you know, as selfish as it seems, I'm doing it for myself
first. And again, everybody else likes it. Great. But, you know, this is the,
I just love doing that.

Ruan Willow

I get it.

Inmyhandsaudio

And so if, if I'm doing something, if you're doing anything, you have to enjoy
yourself first.

Ruan Willow

Oh, yeah, you do.

Inmyhandsaudio

That's what gives me, you know, the satisfaction.

Ruan Willow

Absolutely. So, do you get a lot of feedback from fans that say, I like this,
I like that, and then do you cater, do you ever cater towards them or do you
still kind of focus on what your thought is for the day or your plan or your
just idea?

Inmyhandsaudio

Well, you know, I think as any creator will, will tell you, you know, and
especially after, you know, producing, you know, 1500 plus audios, what do I
do next?

Ruan Willow

What do I do? All right.

Inmyhandsaudio

Like sometimes, you know, the, the imaginary pool is dry and you're like, I,
you know, I

Ruan Willow

Bye!

Inmyhandsaudio

can't even think about anything anymore. I've done it, done it all. Somebody
need them help.

Ruan Willow

but

Inmyhandsaudio

And so absolutely. I will reach out to, to listeners and, you know, on my
Patreon or only fans account and say, Hey, do you have any old favorites from
the past that you want to hear? And from that, I'll gather what, you know, the
general consensus of what, you know, my listeners want to hear more of.

Ruan Willow

you

Inmyhandsaudio

I will, I will probably do a series of those over the course of a month or two
months, and then, you know, I'm a Gemini. I'll be honest, you know, I liked, I
like change. I like diversity. I like, so I can never stick to one thing for
any length of time. And I have to change it because I, I need to be, you know,
satisfied and, and happy

Ruan Willow

change.

Inmyhandsaudio

as well. So, you know, if I do a string of BDSM, you know, type of rougher,
you know, whips and chains type audios, you know, I won't do them for long
because, you know, I want to do the cuddly BF, you know, boyfriend experience
audios.

Ruan Willow

Right.

Inmyhandsaudio

Right. Feel that, you know, and I want to feel the scenario of just going on a
hike and

Ruan Willow

Feel that?

Inmyhandsaudio

fucking in the woods, you know, I.

Ruan Willow

Right.

Inmyhandsaudio

Right.

Ruan Willow

I want to have all.

Inmyhandsaudio

have all the experiences, so I think that has been also a deterrent to the
stuff I do

Ruan Willow

I love it.

Inmyhandsaudio

because I don't think people know what to expect from me.

Ruan Willow

you

Inmyhandsaudio

If you listen to some audio creators, it's pretty much cookie cutter.

Ruan Willow

They niche, yeah, they niche down.

Inmyhandsaudio

and down. And so when you click on their audio, you know exactly what you're
going to get, you know, exactly format it's going to happen. The scenario
might change, but it's going to be identical to the last 50 that they did. And
me, I have to make it interesting for myself, or I'll just shoot myself again
first for everybody else later. So, you know, it has to be new and wonderful
for me too. And that's why, you know, I like you take on all these new
projects and experience because, Oh yeah. And I

Ruan Willow

Oh, yeah. And I just feel like my sexuality isn't narrow, so I couldn't just
write about, couldn't niche down. I couldn't do it either. I just, it's not in
me to niche down. I have to be diverse and create different things and some
things will be more popular than others and that's fine.

Inmyhandsaudio

That's totally fine. Absolutely. You know, that's, that's fine.

Ruan Willow

Totally fine. Ooh.

Inmyhandsaudio

I, you know, whenever somebody says, you know, I get a comment says this, this
really didn't hit the mark for me. It didn't do as I'm like, you know what,
thank you for listening and giving it a chance.

Ruan Willow

Mm-hmm, yeah.

Inmyhandsaudio

That's the best thing, because at least you gave it a chance. Not for you.
Hey, I listen to and view a lot of things that aren't my cup of tea.

Ruan Willow

Right.

Inmyhandsaudio

And that's okay. At least I gave it a chance, you know, and maybe the next one
will be for you because it's always changing.

Ruan Willow

And I think this is where some people get so damaged when they're first
starting out, and they get something negative like that, and they just shut
down and like, Oh my gosh, I'm terrible. That is one person's opinion. You
cannot let that stop you.

Inmyhandsaudio

Oh, you know, I always tell people who want to get into any sort of, you know,
adult, you know, content creation is that A, you have to thick skin, B, you're
doing it for yourself

Ruan Willow

Yes.

Inmyhandsaudio

and others. And, you know, that's the way it has to go is that you, if you are
enjoying what you're doing, then who fucking cares who likes it or doesn't. It
doesn't matter, you know, and that's

Ruan Willow

It's exactly

Inmyhandsaudio

how I entered into this space is that it was a place for me. And if other
people enjoyed it, all the better.

Ruan Willow

And you know, it's just like anything. I mean, there can be the most popular
thing in the world. There's still going to be somebody who doesn't like it. So
what we need to do is not put so much stock in what one person thinks. Like
you said, do it for ourselves or do it for that person that enjoys what you're
doing and not shut down. Because I've seen, even interviewed some people that
they get a bad review and they're just, they're just like, they're lost.

Inmyhandsaudio

Ah, now it's listen, you know, the message sent isn't always how it's received
and you can't control how it's received. So if you had that exact same audio
sent to that person on the Saturday when they were in kind of a really kinky
mood, wanted something kind of just different and weird and it hit all the
right buttons on a Saturday, but on the Tuesday when they had a

Ruan Willow

Right.

Inmyhandsaudio

bad Monday and they're actually just recovering from the Monday into the
Tuesday and you hit them with the audio, they're like, fuck this shit, this is
horrible. So you can't control someone's mood and how it's received. All you
can do is send the message and that's all you can do is have sending the
message out, how it's received on the day it's received, the way that you're
feeling of when you receive the message is all up to you. I have no control
over that. So, you know, if it's something that didn't hit the mark today,
maybe listen to it next month and it'll hit the mark again.

Ruan Willow

That's true. That's so true, because, you know, having a bad day can totally
color everything.

Inmyhandsaudio

hundred percent, you know, that's just the way it goes. And I, and therefore
we can't take offense to that because it's the way someone has perceived that
in the moment in the, the emotional state that they're in at that moment. So
it's totally fine. You know, you have to give people, you know,

Ruan Willow

You know?

Inmyhandsaudio

that, you know, that, you know, Mulligan that pass, you know, right. You can't
do it personally. Again, you didn't, you know, you didn't do it for somebody
else, right. You, so don't take it

Ruan Willow

Yeah.

Inmyhandsaudio

personally. It's nothing against you. It's against them. They just weren't
feeling it. Great. Thank you for giving it a shot. You know, maybe the next
one will hit. Well,

Ruan Willow

I know.

Inmyhandsaudio

good luck to you. You know,

Ruan Willow

Exactly, exactly. So in all of the different audios, we've done some audio
books together, and some of them obviously fit more your personality and your
sexuality more than others. Is it awkward for you to play a role that goes
against that, or do you just feel you're playing a role, you're acting it out?

Inmyhandsaudio

there has been nothing I have done so far that and I can't really perceive
anything in the future that I would not be able to get into, to be quite
honest. The only thing that I, here's the thing,

Ruan Willow

Hmm.

Inmyhandsaudio

is I won't be able to, I can't do a scenario if I have no reference point. So
I have a lot of

Ruan Willow

So I have

Inmyhandsaudio

male listeners who listen to me. Oh sure. Absolutely, you know, and I've been
asked

Ruan Willow

For sure.

Inmyhandsaudio

on many occasions to do, you know, some sort of homosexual interaction, gay
and trans, whatnot. And I'm like, man, I would love to explore that. I have no
idea how the mechanics work. I don't know. I've never been in that situation
before. I've never had that interaction before. So for me, audio that I've
never had any sort of reference to would be a disservice. I would just feel
like I'm failing right out of the gate because I've never done that before. So
I don't know how it's supposed to feel, interact. I have no, I have zero, zero
place

Ruan Willow

Sure. Zero.

Inmyhandsaudio

to start. I would love to do that for you, but I just, I just, I can't because
it wouldn't

Ruan Willow

I wouldn't. Right.

Inmyhandsaudio

be genuine. It wouldn't be the authentic. It wouldn't be from me. So that's
why I just

Ruan Willow

Yeah.

Inmyhandsaudio

draw the line. If it's something that I can't, I don't have reference to. Now
there obviously there's fantasy and reality, but that's a very realistic, you
know, situation, you know,

Ruan Willow

Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Inmyhandsaudio

between two people. And I want to make that true. If it's a fantasy of, you
know, you know, a demon spawn or pirates or whatever the case may be. Sure. I
can play that part. No problem. I have a whole series that I do that I play
the part of a wolf. And I think

Ruan Willow

Yeah.

Inmyhandsaudio

that's a different thing than actually making it authentic and genuine in a,
you know, person to person, intimate situation.

Ruan Willow

That's true. That's the difference between, you know, realistic scenarios and
fantasy or sci-fi. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

Inmyhandsaudio

Yeah. Yeah.

Ruan Willow

None of us have been in that scenario because it doesn't exist, you know,

You know.

Ruan Willow

and in our brains that exists, but it doesn't exist in reality.

Inmyhandsaudio

Yeah. And you can make it whatever you want it to be. But, you know, obviously
if it's something that has, you know, reference to reality, you want to make
it authentic and genuine. And sometimes I just don't have a reference point to
do that. Another point of that was someone asked me to do a cuck video.

Ruan Willow

Oh, sure.

Inmyhandsaudio

And I did a lot of research. I went on forums and I listened to group chats of
like 65 people talking about it. And what an amazing community of people that
are, you know, into that kink and the whole diversity of it. And I was like,
wow, this is amazing. I got, you know, information from the bulls, from the
sub, from the hot wife, and I collected it all. And I'm like, there's just so
much here. I just have no reference point. And as much as, oh, and I've
collected all the information and educated myself, I still would not have a
personal reference point to do an audio in this.

Ruan Willow

in this.

Inmyhandsaudio

So I know.

I can understand that. I mean, you know, you can act something out, but yeah,
if you don't feel like you're doing it in a genuine way, you just feel like
you're putting something out there that is not, not good, not realistic, not,
you know, not a real picture.

Inmyhandsaudio

Not me. Right.

Ruan Willow

Not me. Right. Not you. Exactly.

Inmyhandsaudio

If it's not me, then you don't get it.

Ruan Willow

Not you. So if it's not me, then you don't get it. I can totally understand
that. So what do you find is the sexiest part of being a daddy dog?

Inmyhandsaudio

Wow. That's a really, man, you have really good questions. What is the sexiest
part of being a daddy Dom? I think I love, you know, this is the ego part of
me talking is I love having someone look up to me, you know, for that
guidance, for that support,

Ruan Willow

Oh, sure.

Inmyhandsaudio

for that praise, you know, just the look in their eyes there, you know, when
they're in trouble, they turn, who they turn to, they turn to me, I want to be
the answer guy, I want to be the

Ruan Willow

you

Inmyhandsaudio

solver of all questions, you know, your support, your pillar, you know, that's
super sexy for me, you know, I can't explain why, but I love being that role.

Ruan Willow

Hmm. Very, very interesting. You like being someone looking up to you, how
it's turning to you, right?

Inmyhandsaudio

Yeah, because in reciprocation, again, within the, you know, Dom sub, you
know, dynamic, is they are going to give themselves to you fully, completely,
right? So that, you know, makes my heart swell. You know, someone who is, who
is willingly giving everything to me, because I give them so much support and
nurture and guidance and whatever. Just that's, that's the dynamic. That's the
thing. That's the secret to us. You know,

Ruan Willow

Hehehehe

Inmyhandsaudio

for me, it is anyway.

Ruan Willow

So do you tend to create audios that are more like an exclusive relationship
or do you ever venture into like swinging areas?

Inmyhandsaudio

Um, I think I would say most of my audios have been one-on-one scenarios. And
I think that's the dynamic that I've gotten into, the kind of niche that I'll
say niche that I've gotten into. It's, it's a one-on-one interaction that
listener can put in their earbuds and feel like it's just me and them. So I
have done a few, you know, threesome type scenarios or been in a, a group type
of scenario in a, um, you know, a swingers club or whatever, but the
interaction is still me and you, right?

Ruan Willow

Right.

Inmyhandsaudio

There's no, there's no third party. I am talking to you, you and I are in an
interaction. And obviously if I was, you know, having sex with anyone, it
would be me talking to them, it would be in me acting with them.

Ruan Willow

acting with them.

Inmyhandsaudio

And so there's a difference between that one-on-one personal interaction and
doing a narrative. So doing a narrative, you're telling a story of what
happened from an observer, from a third party observing. So even me, I'm
observing what this interaction is.

Ruan Willow

So even...

Inmyhandsaudio

That's the, you know, the narrative part and the personal one-on-one part is
me talking to you like you're here, interacting with you like you're in front
of me.

Ruan Willow

And I.

Inmyhandsaudio

And I think I would say 99.999% of the audios I do are that personal
interaction.

Ruan Willow

That makes sense. And it is different. Like, for instance, when we're doing an
audio book, we're telling a story, and that's different than what you're
talking about, where you're, you know, creating an environment, a situation
one on one.

Inmyhandsaudio

Yeah and you know and both are valid. Yeah. Oh yeah. I've listened to both.
They're both great

Ruan Willow

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I've list

Inmyhandsaudio

and they both have their place. That's just what I've kind of you know that's
what resonates with me and that's what I like to do the most. Absolutely.
Again, I don't write very well.

Ruan Willow

Absolutely. And I don't write very well. You create just straight from your
brain.

Inmyhandsaudio

That's where it comes from.

Ruan Willow

I love that. And I love that is, and I think is amazing too, is for me, I feel
this as well, to get to a space in my own life, in my own personality and my
own sexuality where I can actually do that and share it with a large volume of
people and be okay with that and actually enjoy it. Like you say, that is like
glorious.

Inmyhandsaudio

Yeah. And, and again, you know, my mindset going into recording any audio is
just, it's just me and you. There aren't, there aren't thousands of people
listening. There aren't

Ruan Willow

Yeah.

Inmyhandsaudio

people, whatever. It's just me and you. That's how I go into it. And that's
how I come out of it. It's just, just been a one-on-one interaction. And, you
know, if other people want to, want to be exhibitionists and listen in, that's
great. Right.

Ruan Willow

Bye.

Inmyhandsaudio

And, and it's been a blast, you know, you know, before I took down, you know,
pretty much 90%

Ruan Willow

And

Inmyhandsaudio

of my public audios, you know, across my platforms, I was at something
ridiculous, like, like 15 million. Oh my.

Ruan Willow

Oh my gosh! Well, why did you take them down though? Why did you have to?

Inmyhandsaudio

Well, I decided to trade in likes for a monetary value.

Ruan Willow

Oh, gotcha. OK.

Inmyhandsaudio

I literally had probably 300 free audios out there.

Ruan Willow

I see. You know what?

Inmyhandsaudio

I see, you know what I've done this for like six years now, you know,

Ruan Willow

No.

Inmyhandsaudio

and I took everything down. I left, I left some stuff up for reference and
whatnot. But I said, yeah, I said, listen, I'm putting my entire archive, you

Ruan Willow

Yeah.

Inmyhandsaudio

know, over 1500 audios on my Patreon. I think for the price of a coffee every
month, 1500 audios, that's all I'm asking.

Ruan Willow

Bye. Yeah. That's all I'm saying.

Inmyhandsaudio

I'm not my heart and soul into this.

Ruan Willow

That is a lot.

Inmyhandsaudio

I put my very into this, you know, and I just want it to be appreciated in
some way. That's all.

Ruan Willow

Yeah. No, and there's, you know, there, that is very valid. There is no reason
you shouldn't be making money. I mean, this is, I mean, that's a lot, that's a
giant amount of time. And that is a way for people to show their appreciation
for what you do.

Inmyhandsaudio

Yeah. And as I say, you know, I like to spread the wealth so I don't ask, you
know, I'm not asking for a million dollars. It's like, hey, you know, every
month, you know, you have access to all of

Ruan Willow

Right.

Inmyhandsaudio

your favorite audios that I've ever done in my entire life. And, you know,
thank you.

Ruan Willow

I don't think that's unreasonable at all. I think that is valid and that is
something that should be done. I mean, you know, it's great to have stuff out
there, like you said, that is still free to, you know, help people be exposed
to you and maybe seek out more. But I don't blame you at all. I think that's
what you should be doing.

Inmyhandsaudio

Yeah, I think, you know, I think people should be compensated for the time and
effort they put into something.

Ruan Willow

I never thought.

Inmyhandsaudio

I never, I'll be honest for a long time, because again, I was, for me, but you
know, over time, I realized how much, you know, of my personal time has gone
into this and, and how much it's going to continue to be put into this. And I
was like, you know, just need some compensation, you know, to maybe buy a new
microphone, buy

Ruan Willow

Yeah.

Inmyhandsaudio

a new iPhone, you know, I had three, maybe I should upgrade.

Ruan Willow

Yes. A hundred percent you should.

Inmyhandsaudio

I'm not asking to get rich or do this on a full-time basis, I'm just asking
for some small things. All you want to do is continue doing it, and if you can
have to continue doing something that you love, that's fantastic. I think
that's the best you can ask for.

Ruan Willow

It is. And you know, it's great to hear what people think, but it is also
important to be, you know, you are spending time and you are creating stuff
and it is worth more. You should be compensated. I think that is a total valid
thing to do. And I, I, I'm glad you did.

Inmyhandsaudio

I'm glad you did. Again, I look at this, you know, I came from the music world
as a musician, right? For music. Well, you know, you should pay for the other
creative things that happen in your life as well.

Ruan Willow

Yes, yes, exactly. You're creating entertainment for people and enjoyment and
pleasure.

Inmyhandsaudio

pleasure. You create joy, show your appreciation for that. That's all it
should be. And I do that on a daily basis. I buy all local stuff from the
local vendors, support other content creators that I consume. And I think
that's super important to support people that you love.

Ruan Willow

Absolutely. One hundred percent. So tell me all the things that we've narrated
together. Have you had a favorite story so far that you've enjoyed narrating
the part of?

Inmyhandsaudio

Well, I've done a few characters and I'll be honest. I said, I loved every
single one of them. There wasn't anything that I didn't like. And as I say,
I'm open book and I'm wide open to everything. So I have, I've truly loved all
the scenarios that we've done together. And I know you have a few more, you
know, coming up and I'm looking

Ruan Willow

You got it.

Inmyhandsaudio

forward to doing those as well.

Ruan Willow

Oh, absolutely. I enjoy it so much. It is a lot of work to put multiple voices
together in an audio book, but it's so it's so much fun and it's so valuable.
And I think it creates such a great entertainment stream for someone to listen
to.

Inmyhandsaudio

Yeah. To be honest, it was difficult. I mean, you had to come up with six
different male voices.

Ruan Willow

We're going to run off real quick, aren't we?

Inmyhandsaudio

I was struggling a little bit here and there, and I always had to go back to a
reference point if I missed a line, because I was like, I have no idea what
Brian sounds like anymore,

Ruan Willow

It's not like that anymore, so I don't know how that sounded.

Inmyhandsaudio

so I'm going to have to go back to how that sounded. But yeah, I think it's
absolutely fun. I love it. I love, I love playing different parts. You know, I
love acting. I love, you know, you know, the whole performance, you know, area
I came from, I love doing that

Ruan Willow

and dull.

Inmyhandsaudio

stuff.

Ruan Willow

Oh, yeah, me too.

Inmyhandsaudio

Labor of love. I love doing it.

Ruan Willow

Absolutely. So what kind of music did you do?

Inmyhandsaudio

Well, I started off as, you know, rock and roll band in the, I'm not going to

Ruan Willow

I don't know.

Inmyhandsaudio

date myself, but, you know, university and college and, you know, the, the
early nineties, uh, I was in a rock band.

Ruan Willow

You

Inmyhandsaudio

And once I got my university degree, I threw it in the garbage and toured with
my band for five years. You know, we crisscrossed Canada and, uh, did that,
you know, whole rock

Ruan Willow

Oh, wow.

Inmyhandsaudio

and roll thing for about five years. I was in a couple of bands that had, you
know, a video on, you know, the Canadian version of MTV, which is much music.
We did a few, uh, at the time they were cassettes cause CDs were just coming
out. It was too expensive to put out a CD. So you still had to. And I did a
lot of that for, as I say, five years before I kind of went into the tech side
of things, management side of entertainment. And I was entered in it. I was in
the entertainment business for about 35 years and through that I was in all
aspects

Ruan Willow

Oh.

Inmyhandsaudio

as a performer, I had a solo country career, I was touring bands, but I was
everything

Ruan Willow

Mm-hmm.

Inmyhandsaudio

else behind the scenes as well from, you know, an engineer to a tour manager
to everything

Ruan Willow

Oh, wow.

Inmyhandsaudio

else. So I did it all in that business and it was a great experience and I
shall never do it again.

Ruan Willow

You're up to new things, right?

Inmyhandsaudio

much better thing.

Ruan Willow

It's interesting, though, that it's all audio, like, you know, even though
you're performing in front of people, it's still largely audio when you're
doing music.

Inmyhandsaudio

Yeah it's still a creative process you know it's expressing a an emotion or
emotions within a you know three minute four minute span is how do I get this
thing that I want to express across not only in lyrics but in the mood of the
music and instruments that are going to be used within the song.

Ruan Willow

Right.

Inmyhandsaudio

And I think that is a huge thing. And one of the things that I really wanted
to do with my audio is to incorporate music because it elevates everything.

Ruan Willow

It does.

Inmyhandsaudio

It does. Takes everything to a whole different level. You know, you want to be
without music. You're lost. You know what, you know, you if you add music to
anything, you just expand the whole realm of emotional, you know, tingles that
you can feel. So I think one of the next projects that I'm going to do is that
I'm going to try to do as many audios by incorporating some music into it just
to create that yumminess, you know, that whole a tingle

Ruan Willow

Oh, yeah.

Inmyhandsaudio

that you just like, oh my God, something immersive is happening and I don't
know what but I love it.

Ruan Willow

Yeah. I think that's so true, but you also have to worry about the rights of
having the rights of the music. Well, yeah, you know what I mean? Like you
have to buy the rights, right? Don't you?

Inmyhandsaudio

Well, I'll be honest with you. I'll be with the daddy Dom podcast. I went on.
There's a ton of free copyright music.

Ruan Willow

One. Oh, OK, sure.

Inmyhandsaudio

you know, that, that is, that is free to teach you.

Ruan Willow

Ah, okay.

Inmyhandsaudio

Okay. And so the intro and the outro of the Daddy Dom podcast was one of those
free things and all they were asked is that you use them in the credits and I
use them in

Ruan Willow

thing. Aww.

Inmyhandsaudio

the, and so I think I'm going to go down that path and just find a whole bunch
of nice, really, you know, cool, sensual music that I can incorporate into my
audios that

Ruan Willow

You know.

Inmyhandsaudio

just create the vibe that I'm looking for, you know?

Ruan Willow

Yeah, I think it's a great idea. I never really thought about that, but I
always think about that with images, but you're right, there is music, free
use music out there as well.

Inmyhandsaudio

There's a lot of it actually gone down that rabbit hole and just could not
believe the amount of content that's available. You have to do a lot of
searching. You do have to do a lot of like, you know, your reconnaissance
work, I'll say, but you know, you'll hit that one is like, that's the one
that's the one and I was really lucky with the

Ruan Willow

And I was

Inmyhandsaudio

Daddy Dom podcast is that it was the very first piece of music that I pulled
up. I said, nice, that's it.

Ruan Willow

That's what I said.

Inmyhandsaudio

That's the one must have that and love that.

Ruan Willow

That's so hot. I love that feeling.

Inmyhandsaudio

Well, I'll be honest, I would have paid for it if I had to, because it was
just...

Ruan Willow

Sure. Very awesome. So, tell us a little bit about what you like to personally
do, because I think when I contacted you at one point, you were in the
wilderness. Are you someone who enjoys going out into the wilderness?

Inmyhandsaudio

Yeah. You know, I grew up being a, you know, a Boy Scout. My parents were avid
adventurers.

Ruan Willow

Bye.

Inmyhandsaudio

And so from a very young age, I was, you know, I have a picture of myself, I
think at three or four years old, going down some whitewater rapids in the
middle of a canoe with my parents.

Ruan Willow

Bye.

Inmyhandsaudio

I was, I was born into it. So the outdoors is my, it's my place. It's my
sanctuary. It's where I find my peace. You know, I've been an avid climber,
cross country skier,

Ruan Willow

Oh, wow.

Inmyhandsaudio

all that. I love outdoor sports, whether it's in the summertime, I do
paddleboarding, kayaking. And winters, I do, you know, skiing, all sorts of
stuff. I just love being outside. If I could live outside, I would. That's my,
that's my jam for sure. And, and it's always been whether I was a musician or
creating that way or doing this, you know, where I found my, you know, my, my,

Ruan Willow

You

Inmyhandsaudio

my peace was in the woods. And it continues to this day.

Ruan Willow

Wait. That is very awesome. This has been so amazing. I just think we had the
most amazing conversation. And I could keep talking to you, but I think people
were like, oh, my gosh, this is really long. I can't listen. We don't want it
to be.

Inmyhandsaudio

We don't want to You just got a role and you feel like you can talk for hours,
but you have to realize that, oh, people are bored now.

Ruan Willow

I know. I always think about that. On conversation, we need to talk for
another hour, but then I think people look at it and they think, oh my gosh, I
can't listen that long. Like I never want to turn anyone off to like thinking,
oh my gosh, that's too long. I can't handle that.

Inmyhandsaudio

It's so true. You might have to split it into two.

Ruan Willow

Was there anything that we haven't talked about or you wanted to mention or
advice or just something that you didn't get to say that you wanted to say?

Inmyhandsaudio

Just some I kind of don't want to say advice on my Daddy Don podcast because
I'm not giving advice. I'm giving my perspective and it's, and it's definitely
one-sided. It's just me. If people can relate to it, fantastic. If you don't,
you can take tidbits here and there. I think with everything you consume, we
can take tidbits of information out of the grand scheme of things. And that's
what I hope with the Daddy Don podcast is you can find something that's
relatable. And I hope a lot of people listen and send their feedback. I love
getting feedback. I love talking to people. The more the better. Please send
me all your comments. Please say hi. I just, I love talking to people.

Ruan Willow

So do I. That's why I love doing this podcast. I just talk to all these
amazing people like you.

Inmyhandsaudio

Amazing.

Ruan Willow

Amazing. So amazing. Well, thank you so much. This has been just outstanding.
And the people need to check out our books. Right. So what do we have? We have
the Lazy Cross books, which is the series Itty Bitty Vixen, which the first
one's out sharing his adventurous wife, first time wife share. And the second
one is sharing his gift twice used by two men. I believe we have three more
coming out. Right. Isn't there five total?

Inmyhandsaudio

There's five total, they're ecstatic, they're amazing.

Ruan Willow

All right.

Inmyhandsaudio

I encourage everyone to take a listen to them. They're fantastic. They really
are.

Ruan Willow

They really are. And then we did Decadent Erotica together, which we did
several stories within that that I wrote. And then you're going to be working
on Neighborhood Sex Secrets.

Inmyhandsaudio

Yes, I can't wait.

Ruan Willow

That book, some people are too like, too extreme for them and they're just
like, whoa, like I just, but again, I love to do all different things. And
that was just really fun.

Inmyhandsaudio

Deeper

Ruan Willow

So much fun, so many good things that we've done, and I'm excited to do more.

Inmyhandsaudio

Absolutely, Ruan. You're amazing. I just love talking to you. We really have
to do this more often.

Ruan Willow

We do. Let's do it again. Totally would love to chat again. I feel like I
could keep talking to you now. Like, that doesn't feel like we should stop.
But I look at the clock and I'm like, OK, I guess we should stop.

Inmyhandsaudio

Well, I'll have you on my podcast and we'll talk everything D.S.

Ruan Willow

Yes, absolutely. I love, I love the whole Daddy Dom kink. I think it's very
sexy and it's just, it's a fantastic thing. The whole power exchange and the
trust and it's amazing.

Inmyhandsaudio

Well then, now that you have my perspective, I will have you on to get your
perspective.

Ruan Willow

Awesome. Well, thank you so much. And again, oh, you should stay where people
can find you.

Inmyhandsaudio

People can find me on Daddy Dom Podcast on Spotify or on Apple Podcasts. And
all of my audios can be found on Patreon backslash InMyHandsAudio or,

Ruan Willow

you

Inmyhandsaudio

uh, you know, Twitter and, and, and Instagram is where I hang out a lot is
InMyHandsVA on Twitter and InMyHandsAudio on Instagram. So come and say hi.

Ruan Willow

Very awesome. Well, thank you so much. You have an amazing evening.

Inmyhandsaudio

You too. Thank you so much for having me.

Ruan Willow

Okay, bye-bye.

Inmyhandsaudio

Bye-bye.