Breaking Boundaries and Winning Hearts: An Intimate Chat with Gay Author PB Breckinridge

Ep 405: Breaking Boundaries and Winning Hearts: An Intimate Chat with Gay Author PB Breckinridge
Prepare to be enraptured as Ruan Willow welcomes the indomitably creative PB Breckinridge (she/her) back to the Oh F*ck Yeah podcast for a third scintillating session. PB, a maestro of gay erotic fiction, returns with a treasure trove of tantalizing tales and personal triumphs, including a prestigious nod as a finalist in the Golden Pigtails Awards for the novel "Size Kings III: Princess in Training."
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In this episode, Ruan and PB explore the intricate tapestry of sexuality and identity woven into PB's work, revealing the deeply personal connections that fuel her storytelling. From the seductive allure of historical New Orleans to the contemporary resonance of non-binary experiences, PB's narratives are a masterclass in erotic authenticity.

Listeners are treated to an evocative excerpt from "Size Kings III," where passion and power dynamics dance in a delicious tango of desire. The conversation also delves into the challenges and triumphs of writing about topics often shrouded in mystery and taboo, such as Mpreg (male pregnancy) and the historical roots of drag culture.

As PB shares her journey of self-discovery and the parallels between her life and her characters, you'll be inspired by her courage to infuse her work with personal history and heart. Plus, get a sneak peek at her upcoming projects, including the sequel to "Perfect Fit," where the dazzling world of 1920s vaudeville meets the raw emotion of love and loss.

Whether you're a die-hard fan of PB's work or new to the erotic renaissance she's pioneering, this episode is a must-listen. And don't forget to cast your vote for PB in the Golden Pigtails Awards – every click brings her closer to the crown!

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Transcript

Oh F*ck Yeah with Ruan Willow Podcast: Season 4, Episode 405: Breaking Boundaries and Winning Hearts: An Intimate Chat with Gay Author PB Breckinridge. This transcript was created by headliner ai and was NOT edited by a human being, so there will be errors. Please excuse them.  You can email me with questions at ruanwillow@gmail.com
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>> Speaker A: You. Hello, this is Ruan Willow with the oh, fuck yeah. With Ruan Willow podcast. And I'm super excited today because I have an author here to talk with everyone. But if you are under 18, it is time to leave the podcast now. But if you aren't, you may stay. We'd love you to stay. We're really excited to chat about writing and writing erotica and sex. See stuff.


PB Breckinridge is nominated for gay erotic fiction in the Golden Pigtails awards.

So I would like to welcome PB Breckinridge to the show. He writes gay erotic fiction. Welcome.

>> Speaker B (PB Breckinridge): Hi. My third time with you.

>> Speaker A: I know, right? There's only a couple of people that have been on three might. I think there may only be two. Wow. I know, right?

>> Speaker B: I keep cranking out the books though, huh?

>> Speaker A: Yes, absolutely. And hey, congratulations on making it to the finals.

>> Speaker B: Oh, my God. Oh, my God. This is the second time in three years now, but my first time making the top five in my category. You should have been here the day I read that. I was screaming my head off like a high school cheerleader.

>> Speaker A: Yes. That's so awesome. I think it's just amazing. And I'm excited. I have one in the finals, too.

>> Speaker B: Yeah, I saw that. And I voted for you.

>> Speaker A: I voted for you. That's so awesome. So when you found out, were you just like, just because it's an honor first of all to be nominated for it and then to make it to the finals. How exciting, right?

>> Speaker B: I know. And for Pboy to do the nominating meant so much because he turned over the whole size kings thing to me after the first book. and that there were so many people asking for more.

>> Speaker A: Right.

>> Speaker B: And I'm like, are you sure about know these are your characters, your creation. I just kind of put in sexy bits and edited and beta Red and ended up co authoring and he's sure, sure. Yeah, yeah. And then saw m that he had posted that he had nominated both Winward, Oliver and I for golden Pigtails, Winward for rookie of the year, and me for all swords, no sheaths, which I was so flattered by that because again, these were his characters, my idea going forward. And where I saw the characters going, that meant so much to me. And then to make the top five, it's like, okay, people must have read it right?

>> Speaker A: And they must have liked it, right?

>> Speaker B: I hope so. so much of three Scythe king's three princesses training, especially slash Francis really is me on the page. M. Frank coming to terms with who she is, what she is, coming out as non binary. All of this stuff that's explored in the third book really is in many ways, my full experience, having done the same thing just two years ago, and telling friends after a year of waiting that I was non binary as well. And the one friend who I've known forever is like, you'll love this. They were like, hello, duck girl. We knew. And I was so worried about this. But, yeah, so it was so nice to explore that, and I don't know if people realize how much of me is in the characters.

>> Speaker A: Ah.

>> Speaker B: And I hope that resonates and that it rings true. And apparently it has, because I'm in the top five, which.

>> Speaker A: Right. That is so awesome.


Size kings three is a love story between Frank and Aileen

And so what can you tell us about size kings three? What's kind of like, the overall thing.

>> Speaker B: That happens in Frank goes from this big brute power, top jock guy and falling in love with Aileen, this first generation irish fellow that comes to the states and is at their college. And they meet in a coffee shop. And Aileen knows right away, but he's looking for, as the title suggests, a princess, which, if you've read the second book, is really Luke. And at one point in the story, Aileen says to Frank, I really want you to be much like the girl that Luke is, because Luke identifies as a girl, uses she, her pronouns, all of this stuff that I do. And Frank really struggles with that at first. and how can he at that point, go about doing that and be everything that alien wants him to be? Because he feels that there's more there. And as time goes by, there certainly is more there. and then, of course, the launch of this new store that's introduced in book two called Daniel's Secret, which is this lingerie store that came about because of photos that were taken and a Victoria's Secret that were sent to the CEO, this made up CEO named Ashley. but, yeah, and the store launch and this big fashion show in Paris and very famous people, but made up circumstances. Anna Wintour makes an appearance in the book because you can't have a fashion show and a store launch with Anna Wintour. Michael Lucas, you know, porn stars also in the book, makes a brief appearance because there's some dabbling in professional porn in this story, as it's just, it's this love story between Aileen and Frank that, queerpup, one of the followers that I have on Twitter, had really wanted to see more of their story because I had hinted at it, and the second one, and they're like, I want more. And I'm like, okay, we had talked for a little bit, and it slowly know, a lot of research places that I've never been. Never been to been the hotel that they stayed at. And luckily, I found photos of the hotel from the moon Rouge. I've never been. There's this beautiful scene at Oscar Wilde's grave, which I've never been at. And luckily, again, photos, actually found a menu of the restaurant where. The hotel that they're staying at.

>> Speaker A: Oh, nice.

>> Speaker B: Photos of King Louis. I think it's the 14th bedchamber at Versailles because that's where the food is at.

>> Speaker A: Very cool.

>> Speaker B: Just all this really cool stuff that I found that I was able to put into the book because I wanted it to be very realistic and very authentic to, and just not a whole bunch of stuff that was made up.


Now, I need to clarify something you just said. Which pronouns do you go by

>> Speaker A: Now, I need to clarify something you just said. Which pronouns do you go by?

>> Speaker B: She. Her.

>> Speaker A: Okay.

>> Speaker B: And that's all because of decan.

>> Speaker A: Sure, sure. Yeah. I should have clarified that in the beginning. When you're saying that, I'm like, oh, did I just hear.

>> Speaker B: No, no. I did an interview with. Oh, when was it? A year ago, two years ago. I don't remember when. For my know, that's Mr. Faggot to you. And it started out as this very private conversation because she, has last I knew on her twitter pronouns. She, her gender fluid. But then is this big porn star power bottom. I'm like, how did you reach this point to do that? And you're the first that I'm aware of. And the conversation just unfolded, and the more we were talking, I'm like, do you mind if I share this on the blog? Because I felt like what we were talking about other readers could relate to.

>> Speaker A: Sure.

>> Speaker B: And she was very gracious and said yes. And I think it's the biggest hit that I've had on that blog, as far as readers for that post, because so many people related to it and the type of stories that I write and type of characters that I write, and at times, I'm still baffled by it, that there's such an audience for it.

>> Speaker A: Yeah, that's awesome.

>> Speaker B: yeah, it's know. Walking away with that interview with Lucas, part of what brought it on, too, was the gay lesbian community center. First time back in 20 years, two years ago, first words out of their mouth. What are your pronouns? And I'm like, what do you mean? I had no clue what they were talking about. and they proceeded to tell me, and I'm like, well, that's really hard to say because this year I've had professionally, a 40 year career, off and on and drag. And people only know me as her.

>> Speaker A: Right.

>> Speaker B: But then there are only people who know me as me, and not a lot of people in the middle that know me as both.

>> Speaker A: Right?

>> Speaker B: So it was that conversation with Lucas. And I'm like, well, if she can do it, so can I. And I'm certainly not near the stature that she is or the celebrity, if you will, that she just, like I said, a lot of it is the audience and that there was such a need for it.

>> Speaker A: Right.

>> Speaker B: I mentioned, I think, in another interview with you, that the first book, similar to the kind that I write, dominguez Putita, you know, about Ariel, this pussy boy, and that was the first. And then, you know, Gabriel Hargrave, who wrote the orchid and the lion, and the orchid is Dom femme top. And I'm like, what? Again, this character that so resonated with me and that I've compared to literary wise, Armistead Moppens, animatrical, who was the first trans character that I'd read about.

>> Speaker A: Sure.

>> Speaker B: My first exposure to anybody trans. And I was like, all of, I think, 18 when I read that story.

>> Speaker A: Okay, sure.

>> Speaker B: So I grew up and grew old with Anna Madrigal and sobbed that last. Armistead's last book, all about Anna. I sobbed at the ending. I won't give it away, but I sobbed. but, yeah, I mean, Gabriel's Dorian just resonated so much. It was like, okay, there really is, I guess, room for all of us at the table. And, yeah, kind of goes back to something Toni Morrison said, that if there's a story that you want to read that isn't written, you're the one that's meant to write it.

>> Speaker A: Yes. I love that line. What an amazing thing for her to say. And she's right.

>> Speaker B: She is very right. She's very right. And I try to do that. The types of characters I want to read and the types of stories I want to read, and I just hope I now know people are resonating because I'm in the top five.

>> Speaker A: Right.


You're writing on medium. I think the last time we talked that you were on medium

And I noticed you're writing on medium. I think the last time we talked that you were on medium.

>> Speaker B: I was not. That started in October.

>> Speaker A: Okay. Nice, isn't it?

>> Speaker B: Yes. A dear friend of mine on Twitter writes, go naked magazine. It's a digital magazine that you can subscribe to or bimonthly or, nudist, male nudist, predominantly gay male nudist, or bi nudist, whatever. and he had approached me going, I've read your blog, and I'm like, oh, lord, and why are you doing this for free? I'm like, what do you mean?

>> Speaker A: Right.

>> Speaker B: Mentioned medium. I'm like, well, I've never heard of it. So he talked me into it. And this last month was the most that I've made, which was close to $70. Just writing four stories a day, every day, not all that long, right?

>> Speaker A: Yeah. That's the thing about medium. They actually like shorter pieces.

>> Speaker B: I know, which is nice. I'm not having to come up with drawn out plots and stories. And I'm like, oh, my God. I mean, I love the longer work, but the shorter stuff. And again, since October 104, 105 followers, it's, like, happening there. There's this audience for the kind of thing that I'm writing, and I can't be the only one that's baffled by people reading what I write. Or am I?

>> Speaker A: Well, you're finding an audience, and that's what you need to do, right? That is the key to being able to reach more.


Oliver says reviews make such a difference in book sales

>> Speaker B: And was it you that said that the more books you have, the more people notice or the more they want to read or the more they want to find out about you? And now four books. Four. And working on five, six, and seven as we speak.

>> Speaker A: Nice.

>> Speaker B: I think it's finally happening. And authors like yourself have been so nice. Winward has been amazing, connecting me to book linker. So all my books are in one spot, this really copy and paste thing, so people can go find it. What I like is it shows how many times the link has been hit the exposure now with, medium, my friend Nick that writes the magazine, actually, there was an email he sends out three times a week. An email about the magazine and updates and Sophia and things that are going on within the community. But there, was a link to go vote for me for golden Pigtail, and then along with a link for the book. And I'm like, oh, yeah. I'm like, what? And he's introduced me to, I've dabbled with it a little for size kings, three with AI.

>> Speaker A: Okay. Yeah.

>> Speaker B: Work. Not writing, just artwork.

>> Speaker A: Sure.

>> Speaker B: but he was the one that really introduced me to that and playing around with that and, how I came up with the image for perfect fit, which was the new one that was released, Christmas Eve or Christmas day.

>> Speaker A: Okay, nice.

>> Speaker B: But the artwork I don't have a problem with, because anybody can do it. And I do have a problem with stories, so I would never use it for stories ever.

>> Speaker A: right. Medium has actually said they don't want stories on there that are AI. I mean, I think they're fine with images, but they don't want AI stories on medium. I remember seeing an email about that.

>> Speaker B: Yeah. And he exposed me to chat GBT, which I wouldn't use either, but had a whole, like, he does these zoom, conferences about different things. One was about medium and groups, different authors. There were about six of us that first time talking about writing. And I think besides him, I was the next in line as far as length time on medium, and everybody else was newer.

>> Speaker A: Okay.

>> Speaker B: And then sharing each other's links. And what do we write about? Wide variety of topics. And that's what I like about it.

>> Speaker A: Yeah, for sure.

>> Speaker B: All these things that can be read there and that you can make a little bit of money, which is nice.

>> Speaker A: Oh, it's really nice. It's great because it has an existing community and, I try to promote it too, because I think it's a great place. Not only do you get erotic content, you can get any topic you want and you have something to read all the time. And a lot of them are short, which is great because we don't always have a lot of time, and sometimes we want something short. Right, right.

>> Speaker B: Well, like, one of the fellows from Nick's group writes about, a vegan diet. Nick writes about nudity, nudist resorts, nudist beaches, nudist travel. M. But then he also did something about how to make your own homemade lubricant, a vast variety of different things. And then he writes erotica as well.

>> Speaker A: Sure.

>> Speaker B: and I think that's what I like about it. And it seems like, the clapping and the highlighting and the commenting.

>> Speaker A: Yes. Interactive.

>> Speaker B: Yeah. It's very much feedback that we don't get with book sales.

>> Speaker A: Oh, so true. Yeah.

>> Speaker B: And reviews, at least for me, seem so hard to come by.

>> Speaker A: They are hard to come by. I know it's hard and I get it. People are busy, but, yeah, reviews do make such a difference. But it is hard to get people to write a review. It really is.

>> Speaker B: And then you have people like Winward who write, wonderful review.

>> Speaker A: Wonderful, right. That's good. You need those people.

>> Speaker B: And he's exposed me to so much in regards to writing. I don't know if you've read his work or had a chance to view him yet. his book, homo work. Come for the story, stay for the smut.

>> Speaker A: What's his name again?

>> Speaker B: Winward Oliver.

>> Speaker A: Okay.

>> Speaker B: And the book is homo work, but it's memoirs. It does have its muddy moments, but it also has these very tender moments as well, one of which is where he's talking about his husband's heart issues and long term living with hiv.

>> Speaker A: Oh, sure.

>> Speaker B: Which, of course, I relate to. But throughout his book was humor, a lot of humor. And I think he really was the one that opened my eyes trying to write in a humorous way in erotica, which I don't know if that's a thing.

>> Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I think it's a thing. I have a whole series that I call erotic rom.com. Yeah, absolutely. It's a thing.

>> Speaker B: as I'm trying to incorporate it into the current work in progress, which is perfect fit to pansy craze, sequel to perfect fit. I'm already working on the sequel, but trying to introduce humor for the first time into stories. But with one of the characters, I almost feel I have to m. Because the second book of that series takes place in 1926 and involves may west.

>> Speaker A: Okay.

>> Speaker B: So, of course, she's known for her lines.

>> Speaker A: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: And a lot of those lines will be in it. But trying to introduce humor for the first time is a little challenging, but I'm liking the challenge. sure.


Stacia K. Wood is researching a historical novel about New Orleans

And I think that was the nice thing that came out of the six day hospital stay that I had.

>> Speaker A: Oh, yeah.

>> Speaker B: Perfect fit, too. Is all laid out.

>> Speaker A: That's good.

>> Speaker B: Conversation on the phone with Winward called and was like, saw you did this post that you're in the hospital. Is everything all right? We got you talking, and he lives in California, and I live in Ohio, and he's like, how can I help? What can you.

>> Speaker A: So nice.

>> Speaker B: And the next thing I know, we're talking about the book, and we've got the whole thing laid out, know, bouncing, ideas off of each other. And now I just need the time to write it. and I keep stumbling across things in researching that time frame. Got to be included in this story. They have to be, right? Like, there's this infamous drag queen. I can't remember his name right now. I tweeted about it a couple of days ago. They were walking on Fire island. There was this big thunderstorm, and going to paraphrase, I can't remember the exact line, but, oh, is it miss God all upset now? Well said. Drag queen is struck and killed by a bowl of lightning. Wynn was like, you can't make that up.

>> Speaker A: right. Exactly.

>> Speaker B: That story. You've got to make it into this new book. And that's the other thing. Perfect fit was this historical time frame piece that I had not written before either, a specific time frame that wasn't current.

>> Speaker A: Okay. Yeah.

>> Speaker B: And having to research that. And again, someplace I've never been, which is New Orleans. Never been there.

>> Speaker A: Right.

>> Speaker B: And especially the 1890s.

>> Speaker A: It wasn't even totally have to research that. Yeah, for sure.

>> Speaker B: But it's Stacia K. Wood that me thinking about. Okay. Historical. And it was kind of my going back to my first book under my real name. It was just fiction. Well, creative nonfiction about the Holocaust. This love story. No erotica really to it at all. We kind of brushed the surface a little, but not much.

>> Speaker A: Sure.

>> Speaker B: Because it was my honors thesis for my bachelor's degree.

>> Speaker A: That's right. I remember talking about that.

>> Speaker B: But, researching 1890s New Orleans and the garden district and the attache. And I know I'm going to slaughter the name of the attache swamp. Part of the story takes place in the swamp that's there. Again. Never been there. Thank God for photos and research.

>> Speaker A: Yes. Makes all the difference, right? Yeah.

>> Speaker B: Ah. I think that's the aspect that I like the most that I bring to my writing is the research that goes into it and even my own memoirs. It was like I could remember, again, under my real name, and they've been encouraged to rewrite it. And that's one of the ones I'm working on. And when we suggested my pen name, I'll do, But I could remember specific events, but I couldn't remember the date, for example. And it's like, well, when did that exactly happen? so it's a little od. Researching your own life.

>> Speaker A: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: Having lived, you know, like the big march on Washington that involved something that was going on in Colorado at the time. It was the year RuPaul came up with supermodel. It was like, okay. I knew when that was. I knew the events surrounding that. Could I remember the date? No. it was one of the things I had to look up. Well, when was that? I think it was like 90. 91. I think 90 or 91, something like that.

>> Speaker A: Okay.

>> Speaker B: But that part of it I enjoy in researching now into May West. I know a, Yeah. Certainly not enough to write her and write her well, right?

>> Speaker A: Yeah, me neither. I just know who she is. I know images in my head.


At one point in vaudeville, she was a drag king

>> Speaker B: Well, are you ready for one of the things I learned about her? Are you ready for.

>> Speaker A: Yes, I would love to hear it.

>> Speaker B: At one point in vaudeville, very early on in her career, she was a drag king.

>> Speaker A: Was she really?

>> Speaker B: Oh, yeah. There's a photo of her dressed as a man. I'm like, what?

>> Speaker A: Wow.

>> Speaker B: This sex kitten siren that we all know and love.

>> Speaker A: Yes.

>> Speaker B: M sometime. And she's parading around it as a man.

>> Speaker A: Wow. It's amazing.

>> Speaker B: I know. I'm like, dear Lord. But, yeah, the things I'm learning about her that may or may not. I think that's got some kind of mentioned that she was a drag queen, and I kind of did that with perfect fit because there are real people. Well, r1 person, William Dorsey Swan makes an appearance in that book because he's this former slave working vaudeville as a female impersonator and was the very first to label himself as the queen of drag.

>> Speaker A: Okay.

>> Speaker B: And I mentioned all of that in the book. So this very real person with a very real title that he called himself working as such. But in this fictional story, in fictional setting, and the arrest that is mentioned in that book, he was also arrested and served prison time. And that's mentioned. I don't know. It was the first time dabbling. Other than Anna Wintour and Michael Lucas, I guess they would be really the first very real people, but fictional circumstances.


The second book is set in 1926. So it's 1926. Um, 1926, as a trans woman, before even surgery

>> Speaker A: So tell me, the three you're working on right now, is that the one that may west is in? I'm not.

>> Speaker B: Perfect fit. It's perfect fit to pansy craze. So it's 1926.

>> Speaker B: Clovis Chaubin has been asked by May west to be her understudy, her play sex. So this idea that Clovis, this female impersonator from the first book, who's just a teenager when he's introduced in the first book, is now 30 ish, and being asked by May west to be her understudy, nice. In her show sex, that she's arrested for, and of course, collects his lover, who's also her brother. They all go to New York with their youngest son, Cesar, who's 16, and all move to New York so that they can be in the show, or glover be in the show, Cyrus and Morgan, from the first book, make it into the second one. They're now in their, you know, the, parents of three children, all sons, which is mentioned in the first book, and how that all comes about because she's arrested.

>> Speaker A: How does it go forward?

>> Speaker B: Well.

>> Speaker A: Or is that the secret?

>> Speaker B: Well, my idea is that May knows that the cops are coming.

>> Speaker A: Okay.

>> Speaker B: and is told that the cops are on the way before the show even starts. So May tells, one of the people in the show, tell Clovis to go on in my place, tell Clovis he needs to go on. And she slips out the back door.

>> Speaker A: Okay?

>> Speaker B: And, of course, in real life, May's arrested right after the show. So Clovis, who dressed like May, looks like May, is, may, technically is arrested. May then asks, know you've got to keep up the charade. May, in real life, ends up serving eight days in prison, goes on know for indecency, because the show's about this prostitute, that she sees on the street. Again, real life, this woman, older woman, with $300 worth of bird of paradise feathers on her turban, but yet a ratty coat and ripped nylons and a sailor on both arms, making not even a dollar a day. And may appalled by that. So, of course, Cyrus kind of agrees, but then, in the course of things, learns that was, knew that the cops were coming, and was doing anything she could to keep the show in the papers, and, of course, draws the papers, and then she and this brand new character that's appearing in the book, who's trans before trans is even a word, an idea. then try to have their comeuppance, I guess, and get May back for she's done to Clovis and his new character, which I love, Winward, he was the one that came up with this new character's name, which you're going to love. She's this aging starlet, drag queen by night. May thinks she's just a drag queen, okay, and doesn't live her life as a full time woman, of course. The best she can. 1926. Are you ready for this?

>> Speaker A: Yes.

>> Speaker B: Panty. Lacroix.

>> Speaker A: Oh, nice. That is fantastic.

>> Speaker B: And Wynn's like, how many queens do you know named Panty? And I'm like, wynn in 40 years? Not one, right?

>> Speaker A: That's actually quite not one, honestly. Name. Yeah.

>> Speaker B: And Lacois, of course. He's like, people in the know are going to know that it's french for the cross m. And that she's crossed over and now living full time again, best that she can. 1926, as a trans woman, before even surgery or hormones or anything was an option, right? Which is the first time writing about this kind of phenomenon that existed before language was even kind of.

>> Speaker A: Sure, it's existed for many, what, hundreds, thousands of years. It just didn't have the attention or the name. Right? Don't you think?

>> Speaker B: Right. And it was kind of done with perfect fit, because Clovis and Cyrus are these very effeminate gay men. And Clovis, of course, comes to turn out to be this famous bodivilian female impersonator. By the 1920s, used pronouns she and her throughout the book, and their son Cesar, doing the same thing. And again, still all before language is even there.


First time writing pregnancy story, which was challenging in a way

And then perfect fit is the first time dabbling in the whole mpreg idea.

>> Speaker A: Okay.

>> Speaker B: And first time writing that, which was, challenging in a way, because I knew I couldn't do it medically and I didn't want to. Did not want to. That's why it's the 1890s and New Orleans, because New Orleans known for who do.

>> Speaker A: Oh, yes.

>> Speaker B: So it's this who do I guess spell that. I stumbled across this real life spell for fertility that I twisted.

>> Speaker A: Of course, that's your right as the author, right? Yeah.

>> Speaker B: To fit the story. and by Cyrus's grandfather's former slave, who knew him as a little boy growing up. And now that Cyrus is 18 or 19, I think, at the time of the story, and he's married his high school sweetheart, and they're having problems getting pregnant, she goes on to have three beautiful little girls before she dies.

>> Speaker A: Okay.

>> Speaker B: During childbirth. After the third. and Tilde explains what that spell means, and that it means just girls. And he's like, well, how's the chauvin a name supposed to carry on? And she's like, well, that's part of the spell that you're the one that's supposed to do that. And he's like, what do you mean? And Sheldy's like, well, you're the one that's going to have to give birth. here we are. There's going to be a family member that does it to you. Lovely. learning that the time frame that the word was used was sodomite. And he's like, well, I ain't no sodomite.

>> Speaker A: Right.

>> Speaker B: so, again, language still a barrier at the time frame that this story is being told, the term is pansy. The pansy crates are what's kind of the height of popularity that it is now with RuPaul's drag race. And we're at the forefront and may west in real life in the saying that gay men have the right to marry just as much as anybody else. which I knew from research that I'd done into her a few years ago. And she's doing this in the 20s. I'm like, okay, I know. Unbelievable. But, yeah. and then the show seemed like the perfect segue into the story because after her show sex, she does the show called the drag. Okay, to which she's arrested for again. Yeah. Which I did not know till a couple of days ago that she's arrested again for it, because men are parading around in dresses on stage, and they're passing something that they're not. That's illegal. And the ship was crazy.

>> Speaker A: That that was illegal.

>> Speaker B: You know, Ron, I remember in the. When I first started doing drag, that even then, we had to have on four items of men's clothing.

>> Speaker A: Really?

>> Speaker B: Or we could be arrested.

>> Speaker A: Oh, my gosh.

>> Speaker B: my things always before I got to the bar was a man's watch.

>> Speaker A: That is so crazy. I've never heard this before. I didn't realize it was.

>> Speaker B: And three pairs of men's underwear.

>> Speaker A: There you go. It doesn't have to. I love it.

>> Speaker B: It's underneath even this 20 story. I mean, Clovis is, again, very much me in a different way.

>> Speaker A: Right.

>> Speaker B: Impersonating.


The first book is more romance than erotica, if you will

But then, really, the me that I bring to this story is more panty and Wynn had come up with the idea to take what was going on with my health at the time and introduce that into Panty's storyline. So in the story, she'll suffer a stroke.

>> Speaker A: Okay.

>> Speaker B: She's recently widowed, like I was now going on three years ago.

>> Speaker A: Right.

>> Speaker B: and that it's this created family that really rally around her in her time of need, because she really doesn't have much of anyone else. And then to take not only just the health issues that I've had, but some of the problems that I've had with long term friends aiming to distance themselves, go from being we to I in this third wheel, if you will. And m. I'm sure none of it's intentionally. but a lot of this anger and upset and all of the things that I've wanted to say, that I'm afraid to say, that now panty can.

>> Speaker A: Say, yeah, way to be able express some of our thoughts, isn't it? To put them into a character.

>> Speaker B: I found it cathartic because it's like, once it's on the page, it's out there, it's gone. It's not mine anymore. And I know that sounds crazy.

>> Speaker A: I don't think it does. No, I get it.

>> Speaker B: But so far, it's worked. It's just trying to find the time between therapy and work to write all of it. And thankfully, I had a notepad and five pages of notes still from the conversation with the Wynn about all these ideas and writing longhand for the first time in a long time, instead of writing on a computer.

>> Speaker A: Right.

>> Speaker B: And then learning just recently, in the last couple of days, again, because of Nick, about, I think it's Grammarly. That will check.

>> Speaker A: Grammarly does the check. Yeah.

>> Speaker A: Grammarly.

>> Speaker B: Just learned about that.

>> Speaker A: Yeah, it's a great tool. I have Grammarly loaded on my computer, too. It's nice.

>> Speaker B: Yeah, it's been a godsend. I mean, perfect free right now is maybe 14 pages at most, but okay. I'm just excited to tell this new story. And perfect fit didn't start out as this 1890s, now going to turn out to be three books, one the present. But it was JM shadows is like, why not just take the historical aspect and make it a story into itself?

>> Speaker A: Right?

>> Speaker B: And then this idea of the seemed like it came out of nowhere. Again, more backstory to this thing that takes place in current day. that is all written, but the others have got to come first. And then actually, I'm thinking it's going to be four books.

>> Speaker A: Okay.

>> Speaker B: The one that's fully written. So the third one will be called perfect fic three Stonewall. So we'll be all about the stonewall riots and, some of the characters from the second one and the third one, because it's like this other historical, I guess, story. And the second book of perfect being more romance than erotica, if you will.

>> Speaker A: Okay, sure.

>> Speaker B: I don't know about that yet.

>> Speaker A: I'm, still working that out.

>> Speaker B: Well, is there a line where romance crosses into erotica? I mean, I'm assuming it's more sexual nature, right?

>> Speaker A: Yeah, I've heard different definitions. Like, some people think it's a certain romance at it, like how much sex is really in it. Right. Some romance books that maybe have, like, one or two sex scenes, and they're not necessarily categorized as erotica, but I think, yeah, the more sex you have in it, the more likely it's going to be falling into the erotica category or erotic romance.

>> Speaker B: Well, size king three was the longest thing I think I've written, erotica wise. And it ended up being, what was it? 280, 81 pages. Wow.

>> Speaker A: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: Quick fit was the shortest at 110.

>> Speaker A: Okay. Yes.

>> Speaker B: and this new one, I have no idea because it's still being written and I'm still learning things that I want to include into this story.

>> Speaker A: Right.

>> Speaker B: That haven't even been written yet. And getting this book about May, to write about May, and then finding this moment, this winning suggestion, and I don't know what it is yet that can be, in a way, used against May in a way. But then I don't want to give the ending away, but it doesn't end there. them getting even if you will. that there's things do go beyond that, but I don't want to give it away.

>> Speaker A: No, you definitely don't want to do that.

>> Speaker B: I'm excited. And playing around with AI to come up with what I think the characters look like.

>> Speaker A: Oh, yes.

>> Speaker B: That's really fun of, what to type in there to get the results that I want.

>> Speaker A: Right. Yeah. And it's really be able to be creative because otherwise you're restricted to actual images out there that you can buy. So that is a huge tool. It's really amazing.

>> Speaker B: And is it just me? But, AI does really weird things with arms and legs.

>> Speaker A: I know. It does enhance. Yeah. What is that? It doesn't even look like it's.

>> Speaker B: Yeah. Like, come up with this image of Lovis asleep in, know, on top of the sheets and he's naked in the middle of the night and playing around with AI to come up with this image so I could write about it. And, one of the images, he's got like three arms. I'm like, that's not what.

>> Speaker A: I hear. Hands. That can't really do hands for some reason, which is really weird to me. limbs get messed all up.

>> Speaker B: I know, but the COVID art for perfect fit, I think it's one of the most beautiful images I think I've ever seen in a long time on the COVID of a book and that I created it.


I hope people enjoy it. I hope that they like it. If they don't, they do it

When I unwrapped the wrapper, my breath was taken away. That's cool, because he's kind of leaning on his shoulder and you don't see the second fellow's face. It's like this embrace, if you will. It's very tender.

>> Speaker A: Nice.

>> Speaker B: Which is what the story is besides being this voodoo pregnancy thing.

>> Speaker A: Right.

>> Speaker B: I just hope people enjoy it. I hope that they like it. And it was so ironic, writing at the same time as JM shadow was writing daddy's little dividend. M m we're both writing pregnancy stories, right? And we're both reading each other's stories and commenting and making corrections and suggestions.

>> Speaker A: Sure. Very cool.

>> Speaker B: And I'm like, you've got to have a character that's either named Spencer or Taylor or. Yeah, it's not a Spencer. Tracy and Elizabeth Taylor. You think people are going to get it? And I'm like, I'll say what Winward does. if they do, they do it. If they don't, they don't.

>> Speaker A: Exactly.

>> Speaker B: You listen to the podcast, they'll know now.

>> Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.


We need people to go vote for size kings. So we got to tell people to vote

Well, this has been so amazing. So we got to tell people to go vote.

>> Speaker B: Oh, God, please go vote.

>> Speaker A: Pigtails. And say the name again so that under all swords and no sheaths.

>> Speaker B: Right. Size kings. Three. Princess and training. I want to win so bad. I know.

>> Speaker A: I'll put the link down in the show notes and see if people can. People. And actually, I'm going to try to have this go live before the end of the voting.

>> Speaker B: Oh, my God.

>> Speaker A: Yeah, I'm going to bump you up and make it out before. Because it's 29th, right?

>> Speaker B: Do you want a snippet of it?

>> Speaker A: Yeah, if you'd like to, sure.

>> Speaker B: Let's see. this would be Frank and Aileen, so. Not now, Daddy. I'm making supper. You can't get too distracted. Frank giggled. He started with leaves of the lettuce and then set them in the sink to rinse as he said this, setting the fresh vegetables to slice in just a little bit. Oh, now that breaks rule number one, sweetie. What does? Basically telling daddy to wait to have the pussy when we both know fully well that when Daddy wants pussy, that's what he gets. When he wants it, as he wants it, where he wants it and how he wants it, with no questions asked. Most daddies would put a girl over his knee, bare ass up for a spanking. But I'll be leaning at this one time, since this is just the starting line of a daddy and a baby girl relationship. But, keep in mind, Francis, that there are resources in my arsenal of things I can and will do. You'd actually spank me over your knee? Damn skippy, I would. Mistakes need to be punished somehow, and that one is one of the easier ways to train a girl to be truly a great girl. Frances gulped silently, hearing that as he had never been spanked by anyone. And she sure wasn't sure how rough a spanking alien was talking about. She wasn't sure how he was going to feel about that, but she guessed she would deal with it when the time came. Frances was just afraid to ask any questions about it. Once the lettuce was washed, Frances set the leaves on paper towels and began chopping the onions, tomatoes, celery, and cucumbers. Once that was over, grabbing the grater for the carrots and Parmesan cheese, Aileen was standing behind her through most of it. And once Francis was done grating, his left hand grabs Francis'right ass cheek where his right buttock ended and his left leg began. With his hand under the fleshy globe, Aileen moved his hand slowly up and down slightly in that spot and watched Francis's left ass cheek jiggle in the movement. Is my butt entertaining you, daddy? Well, I do like a jiggle, baby girl. I certainly have enough junk in the trunk to jiggle, that's for sure, daddy. Just then, Aileen playfully spanked the right ass cheek. Ouch. That sort of stung.

>> Speaker A: Very nice. Awesome. Good scene. Good scene. And so that is from size kings. Three princess and training.

>> Speaker B: Correct, correct. New character, Abner, who falls in love with cousin Michael. my favorite scene, of course, is still the scene at Oscar Wilde's grave where Michael is dressed in the classic oscar de la renta. New look, black skirt, tan jacket, black. She's standing at Oscar's grave quoting de profrefundus in French. Oscar's last work that he wrote while he was in prison. But my. That's my favorite moment, is that scene there. And there's this older woman, nearby, and it's like, oh, such a lovely young widow. Poor young thing. Just about breaks my heart.

>> Speaker A: Very cool.


You're on medium and you're on Twitter. What do you call yourself on medium

Well, this has been amazing. And I'm going to put the links down, the podcast show notes where people can find you. Obviously, you're on medium and you're on Twitter. And let's see, on Twitter, I wrote down, you probably have it memorized. Where did I put that?

>> Speaker B: Lord, no idea.

>> Speaker A: Breck. Brekckindge. Two.

>> Speaker B: Right. Because of all the suspensions.

>> Speaker A: Yeah. You have to make a new. I know. A new little at.

>> Speaker B: If all of the followers were with all of the suspensions, it would be over 3000 people, which I cannot begin to imagine.

>> Speaker A: Yeah, it's so hard when you get kicked off. And I know.

>> Speaker B: I'm trying to be careful this time. And people follow on Twitter. That's why all of the misspellings, because they learned about algorithms in the process not to tick them.

>> Speaker A: Exactly. So. And then anything else you want to mention where people can find you before we end?

>> Speaker B: Medium, Twitter, Amazon. I think that's it. Is there more here.

>> Speaker A: Your blog spot?

>> Speaker B: I've not done much there since November, so that's less been primarily medium because I wasn't really making anything with blog spot.

>> Speaker A: What do you call yourself on medium? Are you PB. Breckenridge. PB.

>> Speaker B: Breckenridge? Yeah.

>> Speaker A: Okay. So people can find you. Okay.

>> Speaker B: You just. Actually, today I saw.

>> Speaker A: I did because that's what I was researching. And I'm like, hey, you're on medium now. And I'm like, I don't think you were on medium the last time we talked.

>> Speaker B: So it's new all because of Nick. So if you follow Nick. His is go naked magazine on Twitter and his magazines. And, of course, Winward Oliver and his book, homo work. Come for the story, stay for the smut. Of course, Gabriel Hargrave, the lion and the orchid. I wish I'd read more of his stuff. I've not. I need to catch up.

>> Speaker A: Oh, for sure. Well, thank you so much, and this has been great. And I will obviously tag you when this goes live. And, we're going to get in there and vote, right? Everybody go vote in the golden figtails.

>> Speaker B: If you hear screaming, you know I won.

>> Speaker A: Exactly. Well, congrats again, and you have an amazing night.

>> Speaker B: You, too.

>> Speaker A: Okay, bye.