From Werewolves to Vampires: Megan Rose Fawkes Erotic Exploration with Spicy Speculative Fiction

Ep 430:  From Werewolves to Vampires--Megan Rose Fawkes Erotic Exploration with Spicy Speculative Fiction, also on writing sapphic fiction, high fantasy, self-publishing and Medium.  The Erotic Power of Storytelling with Megan Rose Fawkes!

In this steamy episode of Oh F*ck Yeah with Ruan Willow, we dive deep into the world of spicy speculative fiction with the talented Megan Rose Fawkes. At just 33, Megan has carved her niche in the realm of sapphic horror and fantasy erotica, capturing readers with her bold narratives and sensuous prose.

Our guest, Megan, brings her expertise in crafting worlds where sexuality is not just an act, but an exploration of character depth and dynamics. From her previous works like 'Seeds of Darker Conquests' and 'Burning Embers' to her latest offering, 'Domina', an erotic sapphic horror tale, Megan's storytelling prowess is undeniable. Plus, get a taste of 'Domina' with an exclusive, tantalizing excerpt that's sure to leave you craving more.
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Megan and Ruan discuss the trials and triumphs of writing erotica, the importance of embracing all facets of a character, and the challenges faced when navigating the publishing world's biases against erotic content. They muse on the power of language and story, the surprising adaptability of creativity in the face of personal upheaval, and the joy of crafting stories for the sheer love of it.

If you're a fan of genre-bending erotica that pushes boundaries and explores the depths of human desire, this episode is a must-listen. Follow Megan's journey on Twitter & Medium for her weekly blog and shorter pieces that pack a punch.

Show notes created by https://headliner.app
📋 Episode Chapters
(04:21) You say in your bio that you're an enormous nerd
(07:00) So what was it that brought you to wanting to write erotica
(09:40) Serializing on medium.
(11:16) What's your favorite part of the writing process?
(13:12) Do you have a favorite character or book
(17:41) What do you like about werewolves? I think that's interesting
(20:34) What was an early experience where you learned that language had power?
(24:19) Do you find yourself doing research for any of your writing?
(27:30) What's your definition of success as a writer?
(29:10) Describe a typical writing session for you
(31:19) Do you create your characters or the plot first?
(34:02) So what are you working on now?

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Transcript

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Ruan Willow talks about sex and writing erotica fiction.

>> Ruan Willow: Hello, this is Ruan Willow with the. Oh, Fuck yeah. With Ruan Willow podcast. Super excited you're here. Today I have another interview with an erotica author and a little excerpt of her writing. So first off, I'd like to say if you're under 18, it is time to leave the podcast.

>> Ruan Willow: Now we do talk about sex and writing erotica fiction. I have a few new books out, if you would like to support me and purchase them. Links down in the podcast show notes seducing her ex's best friend just released an audiobook, and it is releasing an e book on Monday, which is my birthday. Yes, my birthday is tax day. That's a terrible day, right? But that's what it is. And then the other one that just released is servicing the handyman. This is my hot wife series, servicing the handyman, a, leisurely working retiree, which is a part of the servicing the workmen, my filthy hot Wife adventures series. That's the fourth book that just released, and I also have one that just went out as a heterosexual story. Friends to lovers next door temptations. So check me out, and if you can support me, that'd be awesome. I would love it. And you can also support me by joining this podcast in the exclusive level for $3 a month or on Substack or Patreon.


Megan Rose Fawkes is a writer specializing in spicy speculative fiction

Okay, so my guest today is Megan Rose Fawkes is a 33 year old writer living in Maine with her partner and two cats specializing in spicy speculative fiction. Her previous book, seeds of darker conquests and burning embers, have been phrased for their unflinching depictions of sexuality and imaginative pairings. When she isn't writing, Megan enjoys playing video games and doing her day job. Her book Domina is an erotic sapphic horror book by Megan Rose Fox, and you can find the link to that down the podcast show notes, and you can see the image of it on most podcast apps show you the image of the book. They don't always I create an image, but doesn't always show it. Okay, and then here is the excerpt from that book. While her mouth is still in the o shape of her final word, I thrust the wood between her lips. She jerks her head back. I follow her movement, bending my wrist this way and that to keep up with her shaking head. The fool pins herself to the back of the counter. She has been scrubbing. The roller slides down her resistant throat, each reluctant swallow making the rod good. Bitch, I coo, pushing the rolling pin further down. Her eyes are watering and she glares up at me with resentment, burning like a coal fire in her eyes. She does not need to open too wide to accommodate the roller, but it's doubtlessly longer than anything she's ever had. Her hands beat on the floor, helpless as beached fish. I push deeper, deeper still. The humans cheeks go a lurid pink as her eyes water, yet the sniffling breaths that puff out of her chest become smoother. I dont want her comfortable. I want her to learn a very important lesson about making noise under my roof. I jab the roller against the back of her throat, feeling the vibration of her throat clenching around it. Go ahead and gag, I tell her. Its the least you deserve. Well check out her book and the link is down in the podcast show notes. Okay, and now on to the interview. Oh fuck yeah.

>> Speaker B: Let's go.


Megan Rose Fox joins us on Talk Show411 to talk about teen life

So I am super excited to introduce you to Megan Fox. Now, did I say your last name right?

>> Speaker C: Yep, yep.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Megan Rose Fox. You got it.

>> Speaker B: Awesome. Well, welcome. I'm so excited to chat with you.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Thank you.

>> Speaker B: How are you doing today?

>> Megan Rose Fox: I am doing so good.

>> Speaker B: We're recording on a Saturday, so it's, I'm like, I love Saturdays. I get work done on Saturdays though. Do you work on Saturdays or do you just kind of like, chill?

>> Megan Rose Fox: I should be doing work. But if I'm honest, I ate three sugar cookies and played Skyrim all afternoon. So I am just kind of living the teenager life right now.

>> Speaker B: Awesome. That's awesome.


You say in your bio that you're an enormous nerd

well, you are a writer who writes spicy speculative fiction and you write high fantasy erotica. And I love that you have in your bio that you're an enormous nerd. I love that.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Because it's, it's all over the board. Like, it's comic books, it's video games, it's horror movies, it's tabletop games. It's all kinds of stuff. And it's easier just kind of say massive nerd.

>> Speaker B: And then what is home of D and D Smasher? Pass. I was curious what that meant in your bio. What does that refer to?

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: So occasionally I'll go through, usually it's the monster manual, and I'll just say like, you know what? Yes, I would. I absolutely would. And there's like a couple of monsters here and there that I'll sometimes post on Twitter and say like, hey, would you also smash or pass?

>> Speaker B: Right. That's awesome. I think that's super fun. And there are, there are definite ones you would pass on and definite ones you'd smash on. I agree with you there.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Exactly. Exactly. Like they honestly, the first time that I got a copy of the monster manual. I wasn't really filtering as well as I could have, and I said the phrase boyfriend manual to my d and D party at the time and had to explain what I meant.

>> Speaker B: That's pretty funny.


So my first question is, and you can pass on this if you don't want to

So my first question is, and you can pass on this if you don't want to do it. I use this as an icebreaker question. What is your favorite sexual. Sexual position and why?

>> Megan Rose Fox: Oh, my God. That's a toughie.

>> Speaker C: It is.

>> Megan Rose Fox: I am such a cowgirl fan, honestly. But, like, very specifically cowgirl when, like, sitting in the lap of the person and then, like, clutching their head into my chest. Like, that's just very intimate to me. It's very fun.

>> Speaker B: Well, very good answer. What about yours? Oh, I am really kind of stuck. I actually really like. I really like, missionary and doggy. I know they're like the flip flop of each other, but I really love the missionary position just because it just hits me just right.

>> Megan Rose Fox: And doggy is contact.

>> Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. And doggy is just hot because it's doggy, I guess. I don't know.

>> Speaker C: I don't know.

>> Speaker B: Is it?

>> Megan Rose Fox: It's. It's primal. I think there's something, like, very primal doggy that, like, it's kind of fun without getting interest.

>> Speaker B: yes, exactly. Exactly.

>> Speaker C: Yes.

>> Speaker B: So there's so many fun positions, but. Oh, I just. It's so much fun to talk. I love talking to other erotic authors because they're already usually more open about sex and sexuality, so they're, like, most of them have no problems discussing that, right?

>> Megan Rose Fox: Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I consider myself to be a rather unfiltered person, and so, like, it's really conversion, right?

>> Speaker B: Oh, I totally get it.


So what was it that brought you to wanting to write erotica

So what was it that brought you to wanting to write erotica? Like, what was that trigger? That was, like, I really want to include sex in my writing.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah. So I've been writing, producing stories in general since I was maybe ten. I cut my teeth in fanfiction, which I think a lot of people did. And I started writing erotica practically as a joke, because I was maybe 20 when I published my first erotic fanfiction in the Final Fantasy VII, fandom of all things. And then over time, I went, you know, you have, like, original ideas. You could probably be writing, like, things that aren't fanfiction. And so I gave it a shot, and turns out I really enjoyed it. As for why I sort of made erotica my niche. Niche? Niche or niche, whatever, why I made erotica, the thing is because, like, I feel like human sexuality ends up like, it has a lot of effects on sort of, like, how we interact with each other. It has a lot of effects on our relationships. It can deepen a relationship. It can really exemplify a certain dynamic. And so I wanted to kind of explore that in my work.

>> Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I 100% agree with you. And, you know, for me, I always felt too, like, you know, regular romance just was missing a piece of the real story. Like, you know, if you don't have the sex in there, it's like you're missing a. A giant piece of the relationship between the people.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah, yeah. Cause, I mean, like, everybody falls in love more or less the same way, but, like, the way that they express that in the bedroom is very different from couple to couple.

>> Speaker B: Oh, totally. Absolutely. I mean, it's just crazy. And there's so many other authors out there who maybe might look down on erotica and think that you can't move a story or teach anybody to anything or explain a character through a sex scene. And I think they're totally wrong. You totally can.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: I think that's maybe some kind of denial there, because honestly, I think almost the opposite. Like.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Sex is a fantastic way to move the story forward, a fantastic way to demonstrate things about a character that might not come up otherwise.

>> Speaker B: Absolutely.

>> Speaker C: They're the most.

>> Speaker B: You're most vulnerable when you're having sex. Right. So that only makes sense that writers are, who aren't including sex, they're just, like, totally ignoring that vulnerability.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah, yeah. And there's this whole aspect of, like, human sexuality that, like, varies from person to person. And so to deny that in a character, even, like, to deny that in a character is basically to deny a whole facet of the character and, like, not to be excluding, of asexuals, because honestly, even the absence of sexuality says something about that character.

>> Speaker B: It does 100%. That's very, very true.


I would encourage exploring serializing on medium. I haven't explored that much myself

So we didn't. I kind of forgot to ask where people can find your work. So you're on medium, and do you have stuff on Amazon or which areas do people find your work?

>> Speaker C: Amazon.

>> Speaker B: M right.

>> Speaker C: Yep. Yep.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Amazon medium. I'm starting to kind of develop thing with, like, draft two digital. So there's a few of my works on smash words right now, but predominantly I sell through Amazon and then just kind of publish other smaller projects through medium. And I've been debating on serializing through medium.

>> Speaker B: Yeah, I know some people do that, and it does seem to work for some people.

>> Ruin Willow: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Because when I was serializing my 1st, 2nd Novella, burning embers, I was debating on whether or not I wanted to do it through medium, and so I had scanned through their terms of service at the time and they said that they discouraged it. So I said, okay, no serializing with them.

>> Speaker B: Okay.

>> Megan Rose Fox: And then they changed it maybe like a year after I had done that little search. And then I said, well, there's a missed opportunity.

>> Speaker B: Yeah. I didn't even realize they discouraged it at some point.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah, yeah. Because I had gone digging because I kindle Vella just wasn't really doing it for me. I feel like it's kind of an underdeveloped platform and Amazon's not really putting a lot of attention on it, so it's sort of withering.

>> Speaker B: Right?

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: I haven't explored that much myself, but I've thought about it. I just haven't gone there yet. But if it's not that great, maybe I go elsewhere, you know, like, I don't know.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I would definitely, I say I would definitely recommend it. Like, I've actually done it. I certainly haven't. But I would encourage exploring serializing on medium. How's that?

>> Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Can't hurt to try things.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Exactly.


What's your favorite part of the writing process? Every author says something different

>> Speaker B: So what's your favorite part of the writing process? Every author I talked to says something different, and the ones that have really shocked me have been like, the people who say they love editing because I hate the editing part. Like, it's painful to me sometimes, and I always add too many more words.

>> Megan Rose Fox: What's your. Yeah, so I am such a fan of like that ideation sort of section where you're like just starting to get the story into your head and you're like plotting it. You're doing like the acts. You maybe have like an outline going because there's just so much potential there. And I feel like that's sort of writing at its rawest form because everything after that is just refining that initial idea.

>> Speaker B: Yeah, you're right. I agree with you.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Although that said, I am, kind of enjoying, I have such a push pull with editing because on one hand I avoided like the plague. In fact, I'm actually putting off editing the thing that's coming out in April. And it's like sitting on my coffee table, like, you need to work on me. It's like, gladly, dear, just give me a minute. But then when I actually dig into the editing part, I'm like, oh, this is fun, right? I forgot about, this part's like kind of fun, right?

>> Speaker B: I know. I just, I just find it I mean, I don't mind doing it. It's just definitely not my favorite part, you know? And I always end up adding more words, so I end up making it longer, which I guess that doesn't always mean it's a bad thing, but I don't ever. I'm, never able to strip things out. I'm always adding, yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: I kind of find myself, like, in between, where, like, I'll definitely be cutting out huge chunks of things, and, like, this is irrelevant. This doesn't make sense. This comes out of nowhere. Maybe move this. But then, at the same time, I will, like, skip, like, say, location descriptions. I'm so bad about just, like, skipping location descriptions. So, like, we could be anywhere, right? And I'll, like, go back through the story, and I'll be like, where are you? What does this place even look like? I know it looks a certain way, but that's, like, nobody else knows that, right?

>> Speaker B: So you have to add that in. Right?

>> Speaker C: Yeah.


Do you have a favorite character or book that you've written that you'd like

>> Speaker B: Do you have a favorite character or book that you've written that you'd like.

>> Megan Rose Fox: To share with us that I've written? Let's see. I'm such. I don't know, because I don't write anything that I don't like, if that makes sense. And so it's a genuine toss up, because I do enjoy Zakir, who was a deity in my first book, seeds of darker conquests. He was kind of like this trickster, deal maker, sex God who ended up doing some rather nasty things. And we all forgive him because he was very fun, but he was born in, like, a different story that I hadn't written all the way yet because I'm still trying to figure out how I want to tell it. But then burning embers. I just love the whole party so much because they're basically just their own little d and d group. M, special sh t to Ayer, who is actually a refined version of a d and d villain that I made for a homebrew campaign years ago.

>> Speaker B: It's hard to pick a favorite, isn't it?

>> Speaker C: Because.

>> Speaker B: Yeah, I think you're right. We write what we want, what we like. But some people feel really passionate. Like, ah, it's this one. Or, you know, other people are like, I can't pick.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Because, I mean, like, there's just so much, like, love put into all of it. Like, we don't. We don't sit down and write stories and write characters and, like, bring them to life because they're an obligation. Like, we do it because it's fun, right?

>> Speaker B: I mean, even when I'm writing something that someone requests or something, I still make it my own and I still end up, you know, I still end up liking it, you know, it's not like I write something and I'm like, ugh. I, you know, I had to write it the way they wanted it. I still end up making it my own somehow.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Like, I found that even with very specific sorts of requests or, like, very specific prompts, like, there's still a way to personalize it and kind of put your own touch on it.

>> Speaker C: Yep. Yep.

>> Speaker B: It just kind of just happens, I guess, for me, because when I'm writing something, I'm making it my own. And whether it's someone else's idea or mine, I'm still making it mine. They just give input sometimes.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Exactly. They typed something into the gps and we're driving.

>> Speaker B: That's right. A little bit of a guide, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.


So you say you've been writing for quite a while

So you say you've been writing for quite a while. When did you start writing and what did you write when you first started?

>> Megan Rose Fox: So I have been writing since I was about ten. That was fan fiction for the most part.

>> Speaker B: Yes, that's right. You said that specifically.

>> Megan Rose Fox: And this is here we dive into, like, embarrassing town. It was Sailor Moon, Pokemon crossover with werewolves and self inserts. It's the most ten year old thing you could imagine.

>> Speaker B: I love it.

>> Megan Rose Fox: It was hysterical. And then I sort of matured away from that a little bit. Still riding werewolves. And then the first original thing that I wrote was seeds of darker conquests about, oh, my God, three years ago now, where I had just been wanting to write up, like, these little fantasy one shots, but I wasn't really sure if that was something that I could do. Basically, I hadn't really learned that there aren't rules to what you can and can't do quite yet. I, hadn't learned how open the world was. So I was like, am I allowed to make an anthology? That's just me? And the answer is yes.

>> Speaker B: Yes, 100%. But you're right, we don't know those things. When we begin. We just, Yeah, we kind of get sucked into what everybody else says or, you know, what they do. Like, no, there are no rules there.

>> Megan Rose Fox: There really aren't. And I think that that's kind of something that might come up for, like, younger writers or, like, writers who are still sort of starting out as, like, this focus on, like, rules and genre conventions and, like, can I publish it? Like, who cares? No, stop thinking about that. Think about what you want to do and then worry about selling it later.

>> Speaker B: Right, right, exactly. You can work on. You can always work on different marketing aspects, but, yeah, get it written and get it out there.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Right? Yeah, like. Cause like, the other thing is that I think part of my process has been kind of like, you have to write things that aren't very good in order to start writing things that are good because, like, sailor Moon, Pokemon crossover fanfiction. That's, that's, that's a sub basement in the wine cellar that used to be the bottom of the barrel. But then you kind of like, start to come up from that and you go like, oh, yeah, no, that wasn't great. Let's try it again. Let's try it again. Let's try it again.

>> Speaker B: But it's still a tool, right? It's still a stepping stone and it brings you to where you are now. So it's still all, it's all important on some level.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah, it's all, it's, it's a journey. It is.


What do you like about werewolves? I think that's interesting

>> Speaker B: What do you like about werewolves? I think that's interesting. I think that they can be sexy, too, but what's your take on it?

>> Megan Rose Fox: Oh, geez. The werewolves, I think, are just this very multifaceted sort of creature. You can use werewolves as a metaphor for just about anything. I remember I was reading a horror anthology a while back. They were using werewolves as, like, transition, like gender transition, which I thought was very cool. And I got, like, preoccupied with that, and that became my favorite story in that anthology. M but I've been into werewolves since I was a very young kid. Like, I watched big wolf on campus, which, like, this old connector week. It was very cute.

>> Speaker C: And,

>> Speaker B: oh, I lost you. Can you hear me? I lost audio with you. I don't know if you can hear me or not.

>> Megan Rose Fox: I can hear you. Can you hear me?

>> Speaker B: Okay, now I can hear you. You cut out. You disappeared.

>> Megan Rose Fox: No. Okay, what, what sentence was I on? Where did I lose you?

>> Speaker C: let's see.

>> Speaker B: You're talking about you watched a movie. Was it something on campus?

>> Megan Rose Fox: Big wolf on campus? Yep.

>> Speaker C: Yeah, it was.

>> Speaker B: This mentioned that, and then it cut out.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah, it was this canadian tv show, and it was sort of monster of the week and very cute. But I think the main thing that I like about werewolves is that it's the embrace of, like, the primal side of human sexuality. Like what we were saying earlier, there's this aspect that a lot of people tend to ignore about themselves and werewolves, as a metaphor in general, allow.

>> Ruin Willow: Oh, no, I lost you again.

>> Megan Rose Fox: hang on. I'm going to swap locations. Give me just 1 second. Okay, I'm recording under a blanket in a room that's like very far from the router.

>> Speaker B: Sure. Well, you can try if you, you know, you can try without the blanket if you're getting too hot too.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Oh, no, no, no. I think it's. I think I just need to, like, move rooms. hold up.

>> Speaker B: Okay.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Okay.

>> Speaker C: This signal should be a little.

>> Speaker B: Cut this out in the middle.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah. Okay. This should be a little bit more reliable.

>> Speaker B: Okay, perfect.

>> Megan Rose Fox: But yeah, werewolves. The idea of, like, that sort of embrace of a primal, like, inner self, basically the parts that we ignore are now out in the open for everybody. And it's up to the person who is kind of involved with that story. Kind of the werewolves romantic interest. Like, will you accept this?

>> Speaker B: Right, right. It's kind of like, will you accept my passion or my secret or my, you know, my monster side, if you will.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah. Yeah. The thing that gets hidden, the thing that we don't want to admit to or that we're afraid of or is uncontrollable. Can you still love me with this? That's, I think, kind of the best sort of werewolf story?

>> Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Absolutely. That makes sense to me.


What was an early experience where you learned that language had power

I love to ask this question of people who like to write. What was an early experience where you learned that language had power? Or stories, you could say, or stories rather than language, if you prefer. Gosh.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Because, like, one. One thing instantly comes to mind and it's like, very funny, embarrassing, anecdotal thing from childhood. So I'd like to preface this with the fact that I was in preschool at the time. I was maybe five. And you know how, like, when you're a little kid, you have, like, the kid who's like, your best friend and people are like, oh, you're dating.

>> Speaker B: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah, I had one of those. His name was Michael. He, like, he and I were buddies. But, like, for some reason, I was very concerned about him making friends with other girls. And so I had told everybody, keep in mind, five years old, had no idea what I was saying. And I don't think anybody else did either. Was like, we're friends and we have sex. And so mom got a call, got to come into the school and explain to me, like, no, dear, no, you don't. And, no, no, no, you don't. And, like, a teacher had to sit down with me, explain, like, there are people you like, there's people you love, and then there's people you have sex with and you're not going to do that last part for a really long time. And so when you say, like, when did you learn that language had power? Five years old.

>> Speaker B: You did.

>> Speaker C: Yes.

>> Speaker B: Because of that one word, you kept this onslaught of things happened.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah, yeah. It was just like it. Because it's such a powerful moment because, like, you're a little kid. You don't know what that word means yet. And I think that that kind of comes up a lot with people who are writing is that they don't, it's not that they don't understand that their words have power as much as, like, they don't understand what they can do with it yet.

>> Speaker B: Right, right. And that sometimes you, you can say more by saying less by the words you choose.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Exactly, exactly. And so there's this whole, like, I don't know if there's necessarily a push for this, but I think there should be, like, this push for, like, more concise writing and, like, concise descriptions, concise storytelling.

>> Speaker B: Right. Oh, for sure. And I think one of the things that really helps people do that is if you ever write poetry or even, like, a tweet or something or synopsis, you know, you only have a limited number of words that you can put into it. So it gets to be a challenge, but you have to be very concise.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah, that's, that's true. That's true. There's also the, I don't know if you see them, but there's like, these hundo challenges over on.

>> Speaker B: Oh, yes, I've done some of those.

>> Speaker C: Yep, yep.

>> Megan Rose Fox: I've been embracing those lately just to kind of dip my toes in.

>> Speaker B: I know I need to do more of those because I think they're really fun to do, too. I just always forget about them, but they really don't take that much time. I need to get back into doing more of those.

>> Speaker C: But, yeah.

>> Speaker B: Oh, for people that don't know, we're talking about, that's on medium where you have to write a story in, like, 100 words. Right. So how you describe it.

>> Speaker C: Yep.

>> Megan Rose Fox: It's a, it's a hundred word story. And they post the prompt for it over on. I think it's crushed hundo edition. And they post the prompts at 09:00 p.m. Is that the time?

>> Speaker B: See, like, I've had a hard time finding it sometimes. So 09:00 p.m. Is a thing. I didn't realize there was a set time.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: It's 09:00 p.m. Over on Twitter.

>> Speaker B: Okay, I'm going to have to check that out, because sometimes I went looking for it, and I'm like, I can't find it. So then I just give up. Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: And I think it might be 09:00 p.m. My time. So it'd be like, what?

>> Speaker C: Ten?

>> Megan Rose Fox: ten.

>> Speaker B: No, ten for me.

>> Speaker C: Yes.

>> Speaker B: Because you're eastern, right?

>> Speaker C: so eight. Yes.

>> Speaker B: I got to remember that. I'm glad to talk with you because I didn't realize that they had a set time.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Oh, yeah, absolutely. Because I was getting frustrated going over to the medium site, and I was like, where's the Honda prompt? I don't see it. Like, your pin tweet is from years ago or from months ago.

>> Speaker B: That doesn't work. I've tried that too.


Do you find yourself doing research for any of your writing

Do you find yourself doing research for any of your writing?

>> Megan Rose Fox: So yes and no. Like, on one hand, I think that that's kind of why I gravitate towards fantasy, is that I don't have to have research inform my writing as much because I get to make up a lot of rules.

>> Speaker B: Right.

>> Megan Rose Fox: At the same time, I do end up finding myself researching, like, cultural standards and mores of, like, different population so that I can try to generate something believable or all research.

>> Speaker C: God.

>> Megan Rose Fox: there was one that I had to do a while back. Like, I find myself googling a lot. Like, how much speed can. How much land can a horse cover in, like, x amount of time? And, like, what does that look like?

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: But for the most part, my research is pretty minimal. I think the last big research thing that I did was for Domina, which isn't out yet, but I was doing a lot of research on, like, roman fashion.

>> Speaker C: Okay.

>> Speaker B: M sure.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah, yeah. And so kind of like, what were they wearing? How are they wearing it? They certainly didn't have sewing machines. So how are they, like, making their garments?

>> Speaker B: So do you write more in the past, like, your story set in the past, or do you write contemporary time? Or do you just go kind of a mix? Or was that one just one that happened to be in the past?

>> Megan Rose Fox: so most of mine are in fantasy settings that are inspired by the past.

>> Speaker B: Just write the idea, not necessarily the timeframe.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Exactly.

>> Speaker C: Exactly.

>> Megan Rose Fox: And so seeds of darker conquest has a few different cultures, from different times that act as analogs, and then burning embers is just kind of its own little medieval fantasy setting.

>> Speaker B: Nice. sounds interesting.

>> Megan Rose Fox: It's an interesting one because I constantly find myself sort of asking do I want to make a new setting? Do I want to reuse an old world? If so, which parts? And then to kind of take the exact opposite of that coin. The last thing that I published was just straight contemporary romance, where a majority of my research was, what do people wear at raves? Because I've never been to one.

>> Speaker B: Sure, sure. Yeah. Makes sense. Yeah. You can find anything on the Internet. That's a great thing too. Like, you know, compared to years ago, people didn't have access to things or they would have had to read it somewhere. And now we just have so much. Oh, yeah, it's great.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah, no, it's terrific. I'm glad that I'm a writer in this era, because I think that if I had been a writer in any other, like, period in time, I don't think I would have been able to cut it well.

>> Speaker C: Right.

>> Speaker B: And then just think about how the fact that we, no other time in history that I know of have people been able to write something and disseminate it across the world on their own.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Because usually you'd have to either, like, get a publisher, which is still a struggle today, or you'd have to, like, rely on essentially, like, these tight knit communities that I would imagine are kind of hard to dig into without kind of like already being in the know.

>> Speaker B: Right. So really, we are quite lucky living in this time.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah, for sure.


What's your definition of success as a writer? An author? M. M. To have finished a story

>> Speaker B: What's your definition of success as a writer? An author?

>> Megan Rose Fox: M. To have finished a story, I think.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Or, you know what? No. I'm even gonna kind of take it one step back because I've got loads of stories that aren't finished necessarily to have written something, to have just created. I think because the act of creation, to me, is the most important part of writing. It's not about selling a certain amount of books. It's not about getting people to read it. It's not even about publishing it in the first place. It's the fact that you wrote something, you took the inside and you externalized it somehow. That's successful.

>> Speaker B: I agree. And just the fact of being able to tell a story is amazing in and of itself.

>> Speaker C: Right.

>> Speaker B: I mean, we're storytellers basically. I mean, the storytellers have been around forever.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Right.

>> Speaker B: They just did it in a different way. So we have, we have tools at our disposal to be storytellers in a total different scale than people have in the past.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Exactly, exactly. And so there's this, like, we're basically continuing a very long tradition.

>> Speaker B: Yes.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Just by the virtue of writing something.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: and isn't that noble? I mean, that by itself, to me is noble.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Exactly. Exactly. And that's why, like, because, like, I don't, I don't have an awful lot of naysayers in my life telling me that things that I write are, like, not appropriate or that I shouldn't be doing it, but they do exist. And those folks can kind of get the, like, well, I'm actually making something. And what did you do today?

>> Speaker B: Right, that's so true.


M so describe a typical writing session for you

M so describe a typical writing session for you. Do you have certain things you need or conditions or environmental stimuli that you, like, require to write or the ultimate writing session?

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah. So my ideal sort of writing session involves having some kind of beverage, either like a lot of something cold or like, I find that I tend to not be very productive on booze, so I tend to try to skip it if I want to get something done. So just like a big, tall iced glass of something. And then music is huge to my preparation. I m tend to gravitate to like, lo fi things without lyrics, just, because I find that lyrics can be distracting. And like, I'll start typing the lyrics up and I'm just like, that's not what we set out to do here today. There is one exception to that, and that is the black audio sex sells album from God, I want to say 2008. And the only reason that that is an exception is because I've heard it a million times.

>> Speaker B: Oh, sure.

>> Megan Rose Fox: So it's practically background noise, right?

>> Speaker B: So do you keep the music going as you write or is it just a prep for it?

>> Megan Rose Fox: Oh, no, it's as I write, it's to kind of have something in the background for my head to chew on because otherwise I'm going to get distracted by like, the noise outside or like, if I'm writing out in the wild, like people or like the cats.

>> Speaker B: I'm always amazed that people can write with music going on because I can't. Like, that's to me, I really need more quiet than I, just can't write with music going on. And sometimes I could, like, if I'm really immersed in the story and like, I'm in like a coffee shop or something, but at home I know music. No. So it's interesting to me that that's because you're not alone. I've heard other people say the same thing.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: I. I don't know what it would be like to kind of create in an open space, like a quiet space. I feel like, that would be almost more distracting to me because, like, the absence of sound would be noteworthy.

>> Speaker B: Very interesting.


Do you create your characters or the plot first, or does it vary

So what do you tend to do first? Do you create your characters or the plot, or does it kind of vary by the book?

>> Megan Rose Fox: it does vary by the book. I think that most of the time, the characters and setting happen before the plot does. So the plot kind of gets tailored to the characters. But there have been points where I was thinking that I wanted to write a certain type of story and then that I had to develop a setting around that right now. That said, I think that I prefer kind of the former and being able to kind of, like, make a world before I decide what goes on in it.

>> Speaker B: So are you, would you classify yourself more as a planner than a pantser?

>> Megan Rose Fox: Oh, for sure. For sure. I wish that I had the kind of energy that pantsers have and the kind of enthusiasm that they have. I don't think that that's me, but, like, I, because I know that this was going around in, like, the discourse not too long ago from the time that we're recording of some author or another said, like, if you're a pantster, then you're not a real writer. Like, you have to have an outline. That's complete nonsense.

>> Speaker B: Like, I think that's nonsense too.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Like, if you write, you write. Like, that's just, that's what it is. You don't need it.

>> Speaker B: Definition of a writer. And I hate it when people will say things like, I'm an amateur writer. No, if you're writing, you're a fucking writer.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Right, right. Yeah, because, like, I used to use that phrase a lot, actually. Amateur writer. And it's like, the word amateur just means to do something for the enjoyment of it. Like, that doesn't, like, disqualify you as a writer. It just means that you're enjoying yourself and not necessarily getting paid.

>> Speaker B: Right, exactly. If you write, therefore, you are a writer. That's, that's period.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: So I always feel bad when people do that. I'm like, no, just take that amateur word out and just. You're a writer.

>> Megan Rose Fox: You've written something.

>> Speaker B: You're writer.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Exactly.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Like, I, so, I took, like, a lot of Latin and high school, and I was very fortunate to have a teacher who was able to apply a lot of the vocabulary that we were learning to the, basically just us and what we were doing. And I remember that he said that he had kind of quizzed everybody and said, like, what do you think? Like, the opposite of an amateur is a lot of people kind of, like, cocked their heads at it. And like, some people said, like, oh, you have to be skilled. And he said, do you? And like, some people were just kind of like, oh, you have to have been doing it for a long time. And he said, is that right?

>> Speaker C: And.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Then he said that the difference between, like, the opposite of an amateur is a professional. That's all that is. Instead of just doing something for the love of it, which is the root of amateur, you're doing it for money, effectively. And that doesn't necessarily mean that, like, you can't be both, right?

>> Speaker B: Oh, 100%, yeah.


So what are you working on now? And do you have short term and long term goals

So what are you working on now? And do you have short term and long term goals?

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah. So I've got a lot of stuff cooking. So I very recently published a book called Ganged for Love, volume one or book one. And so naturally that kind of title implies that there's more coming. There is a part two coming out, I think I have it scheduled for May. And then April 26, my newest novella, Domina, is going to be hitting shelves. It's a sapphic horror erotica set in the same world as seeds of darker conquests.

>> Speaker C: Okay.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yep. In which a human servant has to try to escape the noble vampiric house umbrania.

>> Speaker B: So vampires.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yep, yep. We went from werewolves to vampires. Twilight created a binary that didn't need to be there, I think.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: I'd always, I've always found, I don't know, something seductive about vampires. I don't know why. Maybe it's the way they portray it in, like, in the media. I don't know. But there's something about them that I always found seductive.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Oh, absolutely.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: I think that there's, like, there's something very romantic about a creature who has lived for centuries, if not millennia, and they want someone, like, ordinary or somebody who is just kind of captivating to them. Like, they've searched the entire world, they've searched through time and space, and they found this person.

>> Speaker B: That's true. That's a good point. And they often, I always feel like a lot of the, vampires are very sexual beings in a lot of the media.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: And I think that might have to do with, like, the way that a vampire would be able to draw in human prey. Like, they're less, they're acting less as hunters sometimes and acting more as traps.

>> Speaker C: Mm m mm

>> Speaker B: Right. That's true.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: That said, my favorite piece of vampire media has absolutely nothing to do with seduction. And it's just these melodramatic shakespearean vampires shaking their fists at each other about loyalty and honor. It's very fun.

>> Ruin Willow: Very cool.

>> Speaker B: What is it?

>> Megan Rose Fox: So there's a video game series called Legacy of Cain. Yeah. It's, about a vampire who basically comes to understand that he is responsible for whether or not the universe goes into, like, this chaotic turmoil state or if he gets to restore the status quo by ending his own life. And you would think that at the end of such a story he would choose to save humanity? No, he chooses the opposite. And then spends the next four games basically justifying his choice and trying to have his cake and eat it.

>> Speaker B: Gotcha. Very interesting.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah, it's very fun. They had these very professional british actors do all of the acting. Oh, okay. Yeah. And there's this, like, all of the dialogue is in the sort of faux shakespearean, very period sort of thing.

>> Speaker B: Very cool.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: So it's just a very hammy, fun, good time.

>> Speaker B: Sure.


Everyone says don't judge a book by cover, but we all do

What's one thing that you wish you had known that you know now when you first began writing erotica?

>> Megan Rose Fox: Oh, that is a toughie. I don't know, because I'm constantly learning new things that would be useful, I guess, to, not underestimate the impact of a cover. Because when I first wrote seeds of darker conquests, I just kind of slapped the COVID together. It was basically an afterthought.

>> Speaker B: Okay.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: And so I would have encouraged myself to maybe spend a little bit more than an afternoon on it.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Because it ends up being your book's ambassador in a way. It's the first thing. Excuse me. It's the first thing that people see. It's the thing that's supposed to sell your book and it deserves a little bit more time than what I was initially paying to it.

>> Speaker B: Yeah. Everyone says don't judge a book by cover, but we all do. And it's. It's a fact of, life. We all judge the book by the COVID Exactly.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Exactly.

>> Speaker B: yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Like, if we didn't, there's a reason that we keep saying that. It's because we keep doing it.

>> Speaker B: Right. That's kind of like how I judge a bottle of wine by the label. Like I'm impacted by the label. I, admit it. I am impacted by the label.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah. Yeah, for sure. There's some wines that I'm like, oh, that label's so cool. And then it, like, it tastes like feet and I can't finish it.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: I've had that happen to you. Like, dang, I try to, you know, I like it when they have a little description on the back because I like the ones that I like red wine that's like, you know, berry or, chocolate flavors and a little bit of spice. I'm kind of like, I don't necessarily always like the spice, so. But, yeah, they don't all have descriptions. They should all have descriptions, in my opinion.

>> Megan Rose Fox: They should all have descriptions and also just kind of maybe like an additional scale instead of like, dry to sweet. It's like, how fermented are these grapes, really?

>> Speaker B: Right. This is going to taste like vinegar or what is this going to taste like?

>> Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Because I'm practically a hummingbird. Like, I just need like, sugar water.

>> Speaker B: That's funny.


One positive surprise that I've experienced is that I can make writing work

So what is something that you've had that's been like, just a big surprise in the past few months or the past year? Have you had any, like, big surprises?

>> Megan Rose Fox: Positive or negative?

>> Speaker B: Whatever you choose, yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: So one positive surprise that I've experienced is, basically just that I can make writing work because I was writing full time and I was living in the house with my parents while they were divorcing, which ended up being a really chaotic, unstable time and ended up moving in with my fiance. Everything's cool now, but just kind of like that level of turmoil made me wonder, can I still create? Is this something I can still do? And the, pleasant surprise is that, yes, I can. Absolutely, I can. And then negative surprises, actually, the apartment that I'm sitting in, we did not get approved to renew our lease, so, like, we're scrambling to figure out a house right now.

>> Speaker B: Dang, that sucks.

>> Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: So that's a negative surprise there for sure. But we're working on it. Like, communication is so important when you're with a partner. And this is like, just one of those situations where communication is going to pay off enormously, for sure. Yeah.


So tell us, which genres do you like to read

>> Speaker B: So tell us, which genres do you like to read? Do you like to read erotica or do you choose others when you're reading just for your own pleasure?

>> Megan Rose Fox: So it really does vary. I tend more towards, like, horror books and transgressive fiction, which is why it's really surprising that I don't really write an awful lot of that. I think the last thing that I read that I was really taken with was, oh, gosh, I think it's called the girl, before I forget the name of the author. But it's this suspense book about a woman who starts to live in this ultra modern apartment. And it's told in a duet between her in the present and then another woman who was living in the same apartment, like, however many years ago. And so, like, suspense and thrillers and horror are all really big pulls for me.

>> Speaker C: Sure.

>> Megan Rose Fox: m that said, I do tend to prefer when they do get erotic, because they, like I said, it explores an aspect of the character that isn't necessarily to be explored through other, like, elements in the story.

>> Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. I just. I'm, like, to the point now where I. I don't even really like to. I used to read just regular romance, and, like, I'm, at the point now where I don't. It just isn't fulfilling. Like, I want him. I want him to have sex. I want him to fuck.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: Yeah, exactly.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: And that's. That's actually more my partner than me, because they. So my partner doesn't enjoy visual pornography. They prefer to kind of, like, have it written for them. And so having me as a partner is ideal because every birthday, every Christmas, they get, like, a little custom erotica piece for. Just for them.

>> Speaker B: Very nice. Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: And they will outright reject a story if they. The characters don't fuck. They're like, why am I here?

>> Speaker B: I love it. Why have I read this? Right, right.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: Like a waste. Like, you wasted my time.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah, because they. They'll go on to, like, site and just be like, okay, it's 20,000 words, and they're not doing anything. What? No, I, have to have something else.

>> Speaker B: Totally understand.


Do you have a certain set that you usually shoot for, for length

Do you have a certain set that you usually shoot for, for length, or do you just kind of. Does it depend on the story for you? Because I know medium, obviously, a lot of those are smaller.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah, yeah. So here's the thing. I have never written a 50,000 word traditional length novel in my life, okay? Everything has either been a novella or a short story. And I very much envy people who are able to put that much word count into something. So to answer your question, I do shoot for, like, around 50,000 words in a project. M generally. But I, like, never get there. And it's always a novella, which is fine. I've embraced it. I've accepted it.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: And a lot of people do, like, the shorter erotica story. So it's a very common length for erotica, I think.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like fantasy erotica is very weird because people do have the expectation of fantasy works being longer. so I'm in this strange position where my works aren't long enough to be considered fantasy, but they're almost too long to be traditional erotica. So I'm in this like weird, weird in between zone.

>> Speaker C: Yep. Yep.

>> Speaker B: I know what you're saying. Yep.


So tell me what authors you look to like in erotica

So tell me what authors you look to like. Are there some you admire or that you really love to read?

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah. Do you mean like within the community or just like bigger names?

>> Speaker B: Whatever you, whatever you'd want to mention because, some people like to have like, you know, suggestions.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah, yeah. So the folks that I read, like bigger names include George RR Martin, Chuck Palahnik, Irving Welsh. Basically these kinds of people who aren't really afraid to just like leave it all on the table. Like these transgressive authors or like I would argue one of the more transgressive fantasy stories within the last generation. And then smaller names, Samantha Colson comes to mind. She wrote Waif, which was, I would also argue erotic horror m, which was terrific and was kind of the first indie book that I purchased. And so like I always kind of have to talk her up because she's incredible.

>> Speaker B: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: And then I enjoy what Logan black is doing. I didn't think that I would enjoy noir erotica, but I did. And I think that part of my enjoyment came from the fact that it's another sort of genre fiction being pushed through this erotic lens and he makes it work.

>> Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that is, that's true. That's a good point. Because, you know, I've read a few pieces of people that have done that too.

>> Speaker C: And.

>> Speaker B: Yeah, I know what you're saying and it's great.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah, yeah. And so there's like, there's like standard erotica, but if the erotic aspect was gone, it would just kind of be like romance or contemporary or chiclet something.

>> Speaker B: Right.

>> Megan Rose Fox: And then folks like, like we're kind of doing the opposite of that where it's like if we took out the erotica, it would just be like Sci-Fi or noir.

>> Speaker C: Mm.

>> Speaker B: Right. Oh, there's so many different things people can do. And I think what I think is so great too is people who are, you know, self publishing indie authors. They're creating things out there that the big publishers are afraid to do.

>> Megan Rose Fox: I know, I know. Like big publishers are just kind of like cowardly in my opinion, because they're constantly banking on these things that they think will sell or know will sell. And they don't really give anything else a chance to shine, which is incredibly ironic because the things that are polished within that larger pile just need the elevation in order to make money and publishers are just too afraid to touch it.

>> Speaker B: Right? Oh, exactly.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Personally, I'm holding out for western erotica to become, like, a household thing. I'm waiting.

>> Speaker B: Oh, yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: I just think that'd be hilarious.

>> Speaker B: It would be awesome.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: Because I feel like sometimes we're like the black sheep. Some people have lower opinion of erotica authors, which really kind of pisses me off.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: And that, like, impacts erotica authors so dramatically. Because I remember when I was trying to advertise burning embers when the ebook was coming out. Like, I tried to, you know, play by the rules and make, like, a little Facebook thing for Facebook to advertise for me and even was willing to pay them for it.

>> Speaker C: Yep.

>> Megan Rose Fox: And they rejected it, saying, like, oh, we can't have nudity or the suggestion of nudity. And I, like, looked over my cover, like, trying to see what was going on here. Then it's like, oh, it's because, like, on burning emperors original cover, the actress was like, there was a model who was nude and kind of covering herself completely. She was completely covered. But for some reason, they just couldn't accept it. And I got really mad and ended up making just kind of, like, a very sardonic image edit where I just poorly photoshopped the most conservative, ugly nightgown I could find over the model.

>> Speaker B: Sure.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: I might run that as an advertisement for the anniversary because I think that's really funny.

>> Speaker B: Oh, yeah.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: And, I get really pissed too. Like, that's how Amazon is, too. Like, they're willing to sell our stuff, but we can't purchase ads. And they can very easily funnel it to people who want that stuff or buy erotica, yet they don't do it. But then if you write something horror or serial killer or war murder, they get to advertise.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah. Yeah. Which is, like, completely unfair. And I think part of it is that, like, there's a certain level of honesty that comes with labeling your work as erotica. Because if you labeled it as, like, contemporary romance, that's. That's fair game. And I found that, like, a lot of contemporary romance does contain erotica. they just don't label it that way.

>> Speaker C: Right.

>> Speaker B: Or it's a very small scene. So then it's, like, a smaller portion of the book. Maybe that's how they get away with it. I'm not really sure.

>> Speaker C: Yeah. Either.

>> Megan Rose Fox: But the hilarious thing to me is that, like, there's all of these, like, romance book groups that are saying, like, I want, like, the spiciest, muddiest thing you have. And it's like, honey, you're looking for erotica. Go look for erotica.

>> Speaker B: But if you go on to Amazon and you put in the word erotica, like, nothing pops up. Yeah, it's blocked. It's blocked?

>> Speaker B: Like, and I recently I saw some people were misspelling it, like it was with a k or something like that.

>> Megan Rose Fox: No kidding. Is that the workaround?

>> Speaker B: Yeah, I know, but then I'm like, well, if they figure that out, then they're going to find your books and then you might get banned. Like, that's the scary thing, too. Like, you don't want to get banned on Amazon.

>> Speaker C: Exactly.

>> Megan Rose Fox: And that's why I've been kind of developing, like, a thing with, like, smash words and draft two digital is that they allow and encourage, like, they have their search specifically so that you can say, I don't want any level of erotica.


Amazon is considering making it better for erotic authors

I only want, I think they call it mainstream erotica, or I want all erotica, including taboo erotica, which. Which is kind of here nor there.

>> Speaker B: Right. But they are smart if that's what they're doing, because Amazon isn't. So they're going to get the people that want to find that they're. They're creating something that people want.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Exactly. Exactly.

>> Speaker B: It's frustrating, especially when you're finding you create something and then someone tells you you can't even advertise it. Like it's, You're going to sell this for me, but I can't advertise it.

>> Speaker C: Like.

>> Speaker B: That's fucked up.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: It's very strange. It's kind of like you. You can sit at the table. We're not going to feed you, but you can sit here.

>> Speaker B: Right, exactly. You're not going to get anything. But sure, you can be here. Assholes.

>> Speaker C: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Really.

>> Speaker B: I will say I'm encouraged because I had. I think it was. I think it was Hardison Parker on, and he said something about how he. He's on some sort of board, and they're like, considering making it better for erotic authors. I don't know if that means we get to buy ads or what, but I was encouraged by what he said. I'm like, okay, that would be good. If something happens, make it better.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah, just anything, honestly. Because, like, you're right. They will lose business to smash words. And if their entire focus really is that bottom line, then they kind of need to move and do something, right?

>> Speaker B: And they're the big monster who wants everything. So if they don't change, then they're gonna. They're gonna lose their little goal of becoming the monster.

>> Speaker C: Bigger and bigger and bigger.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Oh, no. They won't have the entirety of the world's wealth. They're only gonna have, like, 99%. That's so sad.

>> Speaker B: I know. So sad.


EViL laughterSo is there anything we haven't touched on that you wanted to say

EViL laughter so is there anything we haven't touched on that you wanted to say? And also, you got to tell everybody where they can find you and you know what platforms you're on, that kind of stuff.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah.

>> Speaker B: Yeah.

>> Megan Rose Fox: So I think we touched on everything. I do just want to throw out one more time that I do have a novella coming out in two weeks from the time that this premieres. It's called Domina. It's a sapphic horror erotica story, and it's going to be premiering on April 26. In order to get updates on that, you can find me on Twitterganrosefox. Fox, spelled f a w K e s. You can also find me on medium under the same name.

>> Speaker B: Now, what do you add to medium? I didn't ask you what. What type do you do the same type of stuff on medium.

>> Speaker C: Oh, yes.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah, yeah. So I do on medium a lot of shorter pieces. And I also have a weekly blog that's run through the ranch hand agency.

>> Speaker B: Oh, nice. Very good. Very good. That's very awesome. Well, this was awesome. I really enjoyed talking with you.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah, thanks for having me. I appreciate it.

>> Speaker B: Yes. Well, you have an amazing day, and I'm sure we'll chat again.

>> Megan Rose Fox: Yeah, please. Thank you.

>> Speaker B: You have a good day.

>> Megan Rose Fox: You too.

>> Speaker C: Bye.

>> Speaker B: Bye bye. Okay.

>> Ruin Willow: Thank you for listening to that. And again, find her links down the podcast show notes, and you can find her work and find her on social media interact and get her books if you like this particular topic of, genre of fiction.

>> Speaker B: We had a great time, and I.

>> Ruin Willow: Hope you enjoyed it as well. Don't forget to check down the podcast show notes for my books as well. There'll be a link down there, and you can join this level of the podcast that is exclusive, or you can get all those padlocked ones for $3 a month, and you can join my subscriptions on substack patreon. And also, I have a fansly. And don't forget to come today. We were given these bodies for a reason. These organs for a reason. These nerve endings for a reason. We were meant to enjoy our bodies. We were meant to enjoy our sexuality. It is a very powerful thing that you need to harness. A lot of people try to control you around the world, different countries try to control your sexuality.

>> Speaker B: But you know what?

>> Ruin Willow: You own your sexuality, and you need to harness it. You take charge, baby.

>> Speaker C: You.

>> Ruin Willow: It's yours.

>> Speaker B: You own it.

>> Ruin Willow: And don't forget to come today. It's stress relief. It helps you sleep, it helps your body be healthy, brings blood flow down to your genitals, and it just gives you an overall better feeling of, well, being wellness, health and happiness. Make your body healthy. Make yourself come today. Oh, fuck yeah. It's good for your head, it's good for your heart, it's good for your body, it's good all around. But a lot of people will try to tell you it's not. Don't listen to them. We weren't given taste buds to not taste food, right? We were given these sensations, these nerve endings, to enjoy our bodies, to enjoy our sexuality, to enjoy feeling good with ourselves and with a partner or partners. So make sure you come today. Oh, fuck yeah. You have an amazing day. Thanks for listening and please share my podcast. Give me a rating and review, and sign up and subscribe. I hope you enjoy it and have an amazing fucking day. Love you, bye.