Oh F*ck Yeah with Ruan Willow

Ep 110: How to Have Better Sex Tips for Sex Mens Health, Women, and Couples

January 11, 2022 Ruan Willow/Jeff Abraham of Promescent Season 2 Episode 110
Oh F*ck Yeah with Ruan Willow
Ep 110: How to Have Better Sex Tips for Sex Mens Health, Women, and Couples
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Ep 110: How to Have Better Sex Tips for Sex Mens Health, Women, and Couples. Listen to the amazing information and fun chat I had with Jeff Abraham, the CEO of Promescent, a company that promotes sexual well-being for men, women, couples... ALL people.  We chat about how to improve sex for all couples/partners, of all ages. We talk about the amazing products that help a man last longer in bed (nope! it's not a pill or a numbing spray, it's way better!), ways to help women enjoy sex more, and for all to improve intimacy, satisfaction, and sexual health, thereby contributing to a better quality of life.  Jeff and I chat about the arousal gap/the orgasm gap between men and women and how that can be closed for mutual enjoyment. We discuss the difference between PE (premature ejaculation),  ED (erectile disfunction), & how to help those conditions. Let's have better sex!

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Ruan Willow:

Hello, this is Ruan Willow and you are listening to the, oh. Yeah. With Ruan Willow podcast. I'm so excited. You're here today. I have really amazing information to, with you some solutions for problems and issues, some ways to make your sex life better. We all want that, right? We want good sex. We want to improve our sexual health, make it the absolute Fest to the max that we can. And I have have some tips that can help you do just that. And since I talk about sex on this podcast, this is a podcast for adults only 18 plus only. So if you are under 18, sorry, it's time for you to leave the podcast. Now I am so excited because I am going to talk with the CEO of a company that creates things for everything you need to have amazing sex. Oh, hell yes. Enjoy all the sensations of sex without holding back or worrying about finishing too soon. They make an amazing pro to help men last longer in bed. And it's a spray. It's not something you take internally. Plus they also have lubricants, adult toys and supplements, and I am so excited to talk with him, learn all about their products and things that they have to help people have better sex. I mean, literally that their goal help people have better sex. I mean , what , that's a great goal, right? That's absolutely fantastic sex the way it should be. Stress free , simple, effective, fun as all PAC . Yes, yes, yes, please. Please. <laugh> this is what we want. And welcome to season two. I forgot to mention that <laugh> season two of oh. Yeah. With Rumi is now underway. So I'm gonna get into this discussion with him. I am so excited to talk with this person today. You are gonna love this. I was so excited that they approached me to come onto my podcast. I'm just really excited to learn more about their product and how it can help in bed. Yes, it helps with sex and it's going to help males and females, males, and males. It's great . So I'm excited to more and I'm excited to learn more with you . And I would like Jeff Abraham to my podcast. Welcome Jeff.

Jeff Abraham:

It's my pleasure to be here.

Ruan Willow:

I'm so excited to talk with you now, how do you say your company name? Like how do you pronounce it? Pro

Jeff Abraham:

Messent pro Messent and that comes from it's a medical term. Uh, two messin means en Gorge with blood. It's a medical name for an erection. And so it came from prolonged toes . Hence PROEs

Ruan Willow:

Ah , very nice. Now I am very curious about all things. So I guess we have to start somewhere. So first, I guess the best place to start with f or you t o describe what is the product and how would it help people?

Jeff Abraham:

Okay . We have a full line of , uh , sexual enhancement products, but our initial foray in our, you know, like flagship call it, I guess our flagship product you can call it is a mail delay spray , uh , called PROEs delay spray. And the what makes a difference is prior to us being introduced in 2011, there had been other light cane and Benza canine base sprays out on the market for men who wanted the last longer. And they would allow a longer , uh, session of intercourse or, you know, whatever oral sex, whatever you were, you know, partaking in. But the downside was it would numb you completely, it would also transfer to your partner and numb that partner as well. Wow . So you, in other words, addressed one situation, which was having a longer , uh, time to enjoy yourself, but at the same , you and your partner were both numb. And I don't know about most people, but for me, I love my intimacy to be somewhat, you know, fulfilling and , uh, a lot of sensations involved. And I like to eventually climax, that's the whole purpose. <laugh> if you both literally get a lot of exercise in a lot of sweating and everyone's numb and can't really climax, you might as well go take a spin class for a hot yoga class. <laugh> cause it's the same thing. A lot of sweating with no satisfaction. So we were developed by a hog hospital urologist who happened to be my doctor, one of my neighbors and a very good friend of mine, Dr . Ronald Gilbert. And when people came to see him, you know, and they had prostate issues , he had many different options to treat them. They came to see him for ed. He had Viagra , a LA vitro , many different options. They came to see him for incontinence. He had many different options. They came to see him for, you know, PE and here were the two options he was able to provide. You could both, you know, you can numb yourself and your partner up so much that you'll be able to have, have a , a long time, but you won't enjoy yourselves, not a good option. No. Or you can take SSRIs, which stands for selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors. Those are commonly noticed depression, drugs. Yep . They do allow a man to last longer, but the side effects are nausea, vomiting, dry mouth , uh, loss of libido, you know, suicidal. I'm like, excuse me, I'd rather have PE than those side effects. Okay . Yeah . So there really weren't any good options. So they developed this product called PROEs and it was really interesting because what they did, it's a lidocaine based product. And there had been products out there prior, but they got together with an inorganic PhD chemist and they changed the crystal structure of in its raw form is a , it's a crystal . So it sits on the surface of your Strat . So in a traditional , uh , delay spray product that would numb you up, but it would be sitting on the surface of your skin and it would transfer to your partner and cause numbing on him or her as well. So what they did by changing the Crystaline structure of lidocane from a solid to an oil aqueous form, it penetrated the outer layer of the skin, the Derma , or the Adam cornium. It went into the fatty tissue underneath. So within seven minutes of applying it, you would have a higher degree of surface sensitivity. So you'd be able to enjoy yourself. And it also would go subdermal. So it didn't transfer to your partner Uhhuh <affirmative> . So that was the key, you know, like, and one of the things we run up against is people see our products go, oh, I already tried a lidocaine based spray for PE. I didn't really enjoyed it, numbed up me and my partner. Right. And we have to tell people, this is different. It's like, you know, having a car and you have a Ford tourist and your neighbor has a Ferrari or a Maserati. And you can't say, well , they're both cars. Technically they're both cars. One has , has a higher degree of performance than the other one versus 200 miles an hour. The other goes 60 miles an hour. So that's been a marketing challenge for us. So that's why rather run a digital ad and say, Hey, this great lidocaine based spray for PE, we'd love to do things like this with you was give us a chance to explain the difference and give us a chance to say, just because you tried a lidocaine based spray for PE before and had a unsatisfactory result, doesn't mean that you won't achieve a higher degree of satisfaction with this product. So that's what, you know, leads us here today and, and on the show. And at the same time, the chance to really educate people on why this is a breakthrough and a revolutionary product.

Ruan Willow:

Well , I could see that people are immediately just shut down and be like, oh, I already did that. That

Jeff Abraham:

Didn't work . Oh, absolutely . People's natural tendency. And I think I would certainly be among them. If I went, wait, I did one of these before at a bad result. Why would I do it again? One of the things I'd like to stress too, is we promote ourselves a little differently. I wish I was joking, but I'm not. Some of our competitors are named stud 100 , do me long and hard. Okay . I mean, you know, and you just get this image of this testosterone, thumping CA man dragging a woman back to his cave and going on , you know what I mean, Uhhuh <affirmative> . If you look at our marketing, if you look at our website, we have clinical trials. We have studies to me when I took over the company, it was all about, I had to have a hundred percent control because I wanted to bring an elegance to this. And I wanted to bring an educational aspect to it. Nice. Because we're all about education. We're all about finding the right product for the right reasons and using it correctly. So you get a satisfactory result. But just as importantly, this is a couple's product. Okay , nice . Right. Let's be real clear if a man prematurely or rapidly, he still. The woman's like, excuse me, I'm over here. Or if it happens to your partner , he's like , Hey , wait a second. What about me? Say , you know what I mean ? Yes . There's two of us in this bed. Your , I don't go on the kitchen table wherever you happen to be making look , you know ? Right. There's two of us here would like really like to make sure both of us achieve a little satisfaction. So what we try to do is educate our male customers that this isn't just about you. It really is a partner's situation and all of our products, whether it be our lubes or condoms or vibrators, or, you know, Vita flux , and, you know, we try to emphasize, and certainly we're not against people using them to because masturbation is a big part of sex, right . Even if you're in a relationship, sometimes people, you know, wanna experiment feelings and, you know, products and stuff. And they tend to use them in a atory setting to get a little higher degree of confidence before using them with a partner. So, but we, we really try to explain to people that you have to have the right mindset and that the mindset is satisfaction for everybody involved, whether it's 1, 2, 3 people, whatever, you know, that you have to be aware of others satisfaction as well as your own. So that's been a real, real big push on our part.

Ruan Willow:

Yeah. I think that's absolutely true with any sort of sexual product, sex toys, anything. And a lot of people have the attitude like, well , that's that's for him or that's for her. No, if you're having a sexual experience together, it's for both of you, no matter what kind of product it is , it's for both. And that always kind of just spins for people like, oh no, that's just for her. That's just for him. I see people do that. And it's not true at all. I , I like what you said,

Jeff Abraham:

We've had a lot of success. We have a full line of vibrators and male masturbatory toys on our site. And I noticed a reluctance initially on the part of a lot of men mm-hmm <affirmative> to buy vibrators. And I think the feeling was, well, if I'm buying a vibrator for my partner, does that signify that I'm not satisfying her? Right. And I'm like, Hey listen, okay . I've had the wisdom of, you know, being sexual for 40 some years now cuz I'm 64 years old. Right. And I try to tell people that every man do not leave your ego at the door. I , you know, before I was in this particular field, I owned a semiconductor engineering company. And if someone asked me what the, you know, most fragile substance on earth was, I'd probably say, you know , uh, you know, Silicon wafer that, you know, they used to make semiconductors. They're very, very precious. But I found from doing this at the most fragile substance on earth is the male ego, you know, <laugh> . You know, I don't even know why women like men. I'm glad they do. I really appreciate it. You know what I mean? Yes . Every once in a while I'm like, seriously, I mean, it has to be so hard being a woman because you have to be sexual, but not too sexual, you know, or you, can't not sexual at all. You have to, you know , you have to thread that needle by being sexual enough that you're totally, you know, attractive and satisfying your partner, but not too sexual. Cause it'd be like, Hey, where'd you learn that? You know, that kinda a thing. Yes. Oh

Ruan Willow:

Yes . It's , it's

Jeff Abraham:

Tough. But I always tell people, especially when it comes to buying vibrators, don't get , let your ego get in away . Do you really believe that every sexually active woman in the world, at some point doesn't have a vibrator tucked in a underwear drawer in the closet behind something, you know what I mean? Right . Even sometimes when a relationship, it doesn't mean that you're not totally satisfying her. Your goal should be, have her come as often as intensely as possible because yes , it's, it's better for you. The more satisfied a woman is, the more she's gonna wanna satisfy her partner. Yes . That is bringing her that satisfaction and or giving her the freedom to explore her sexuality. So I think it's really important to take a step back. And so we've, you know, written blogs about it and Hey, incorporate a vibrator into your sexual activity. It's not in place of you . It's in addition to you, you know , it's, it's use it during four , use it, you know, when a woman's about to climax and have a , a more intense climax, you know, that kinda a thing, but it's, it's never ceased to amaze me at how many men are very uptight about that. Well, does that mean there's something wrong with me? I'm like, no, it doesn't at all. You know what it means that you're a very, you know, central will an open lover that is really focused on your partner's pleasure and not your own ego.

Ruan Willow:

Exactly. I talk to a lot of men cuz I have , uh , on social media and a lot of men come to me for advice. And a lot of them will say, well that's competition. No it's not it's enhancement. No , absolutely competition . <laugh> you're still there.

Jeff Abraham:

Yeah , exactly. Hey, you know, at this age I'm 64 . I just wanna be in there somewhere. You know what I mean? It's like, you know, I just wanna make sure she's not alone somewhere going. I don't want anything to do with you, right . Her and a vibrator. If it's me, her and a shetland pony , whatever, drag it in. You know what I mean ? Like just as long as I'm in there somewhere, you know

Ruan Willow:

<laugh> well, other thing is, okay , let's just face it. Men and women, their bodies are very different men climax once and they may need to recharge. Women can climax over and over and over again. Why not maximize that? Why not increase your intimacy and grow your relationship , your marriage, your sexual activity. It's only going to enhance

Jeff Abraham:

It , enhances it . You know, it's funny because I've always said, you know, I've really enjoyed being a man. You don't have to have a menstrual cycle, you know , once a month you don't have all these social pressures and everything else, Uhhuh <affirmative> . But the one area that I go, you know, I might try that woman thing out for a while is so right . Unlimited orgasm thing over and over again. Oh yeah . You know , when I was younger, I was very sexual. When I was in my late teens and through my twenties, I could literally have sex four times a night. I mean , without , you know, then I got into my thirties and I was like, okay, now twice a night is pretty much my limit . And I make it kind of analogous to kind of a firearm situation when I was younger, you know, I was a machine gun, <laugh> rapid numbers of firing all over the place unlimited, you know, like I could now , whatever. And then when I got into my thirties, I became a semiautomatic rifle, you know, <laugh> then I got into my forties. I was a rifle, you know <laugh> yeah . Then I got into my fifties. Okay . Now I'm a pistol, you know? Right, right. Right now I'm in my sixties. I'm like a musket. Remember those from civil war where you have to take like a , a , a , like a Ram rod and you put the powder in , put it in there , then you take them to a musket ball. Then you put it in there, then you have to , and you get one shot. Okay . Right, right. <laugh> I tell people now, you know, you really start appreciating sex a lot more as you age. Oh yeah. Cause it's not an unlimited uninterrupted supply where you go, I can do this as many times a day for as long as I want and get another 40 , 50 years to live. All of a sudden here , your 56 so I'm goodThree, four times a week. I need a day charge . You know what I mean ? I'm already by the time I'm 8 0. I 'm n ot sure I c an do t his a nymore. Y ou go w ait, t here's a finite number o f, u h, y ou k now, marbles i n the j ar h ere. You know, I g otta b e a l ittle m ore c areful,

Ruan Willow:

You know , I think it about that . It's males can go and go and go and go when they're younger. But a lot of women, when they're younger may not realize or even understand how to climax multiple times that for many women comes with age. So women are down here , climaxing, maybe not at all, or maybe once during sex and as they age , they're climaxing more and more and they're learning more. And then men going the opposite way . It's like, we're the opposite gradient. So it creates this mismatch.

Jeff Abraham:

<laugh> Well, it's funny because some of my friends like to tease me because I'm single and I've dated historically younger women, you know, Uhhuh , not ridiculously younger, but 15 years, you know? Well maybe that is ridiculous in some people's minds is not in mine , but , and sometimes people say to me, oh my God , you know, you like younger women is because of, you know, they have a higher degree of sexuality go , no, it's the exact opposite. I go, a lot of times younger women are very comfortable and happy with one orgasm a night. You know what I mean? Right. And I think maybe women as they reach, you know, an age where, you know, they are in their mid forties, they get much more comfortable, their sexuality. And I think just like with men, they're like, Hey, I gotta take advantage of every one of these. I want 4, 5, 6 of these a night. And so I was joking, but I wasn't really completely joking, you know? Right,

Ruan Willow:

Right. Cause I've talked to many women where it just with age, it increases and they, they also learn their bodies more. And this is why I wish that people would use sex toys at a younger age. Cause I really feel like that teaches a woman about her body. And I feel like for men, it's just easier to learn about your body.

Jeff Abraham:

Sexuality. Oh , without a doubt. Absolutely, women may not know . Yeah. I never had a vibrator or sexual until I was 40 mm-hmm <affirmative> and uh, I wish I would've started when I was 20. Yes. Yes. Cause it just adds so much to the relationship, you know? And it just, it does it really, and truly allows you to go places. You can't go without them .

Ruan Willow:

Yes, absolutely. And the fact that, you know, if a woman can cum multiple times, why not? Exactly.

Jeff Abraham:

<laugh> trust me. There's not a guy in the world. If he could climax multiple times, he would be using every vacuum, cleaner, every power tool, every washer and dryer to vibrate and sit on , you know what I mean ? Like , yes . Oh

Ruan Willow:

Absolutely . That's why I love your product . So now I have a few questions about this product . Is it something that you have to wash off ?

Jeff Abraham:

No. Now we recommend if you're going to have someone perform oral sex on you to wash it off, but wait five to seven minutes after application. Cause it does have kinda a medicinal taste to it. Ah sure, sure. So you don't have to wash it off cuz it won't transfer, but it's oral sex. We do recommend it because no one wants to go wait a second. Is there listerine on your penis? You know what I mean?

Ruan Willow:

Right . Exactly. Not exactly sexy is it to taste like medicine <laugh> yeah,

Jeff Abraham:

Exactly. What is that taste down there? You know what I mean?

Ruan Willow:

So put some like flavored lube on top of there. Maybe that would kill it . I wonder if that would?

Jeff Abraham:

No , that actually does. I could tell you from experience, you can mask it with, you know what I mean? Oh sure. Organic Aloe vera lube, something like that, you know? Nice.

Ruan Willow:

Now is there anything that counteract it like oil, like say someone wants to use coconut oil? Is there anything that would like ...

Jeff Abraham:

No , there's nothing, once you apply it and you let it soak in, you know, absorb there's nothing that will deaden or lessen the effects.

Ruan Willow:

Okay. And how long does it last?

Jeff Abraham:

It generally lasts about 40 to 45 minutes. Okay . So the effects that you'll feel from it and hopefully by that point you're done, you know, <laugh> right, right. Because there's a certain point we've had guys and again, it goes back to the fragile male ego <laugh> we have guys that literally will say, you know, we have interactive chat feature on our site and I'm very active, you know, I at least an hour a day, I like to, you know, interface with some of our customers to find out that's how we develop new products. What else would you like us to have? You know , this kinda stuff. Right . We'll have guys that go, you know, I last 25 minutes, but I'd like to go an hour, an hour and a half. I'm like, excuse me. I'm like what ? I go. Even if actual penetration starts , they go , yeah. I go, I think you need to worry more about your technique and less about, you know, the duration of your intercourse. Yeah . Because it seems to me like you're, you know, you're passing that line between, you know, pleasure and pain. Okay . Right . Have you talked to your partner about this ? Is she saying to you , you know that 40 minute session we had last night, wasn't cutting it, you know? Right,

Ruan Willow:

Right. Well, yeah. At some point you're going at it , it's gonna get to that where it's gonna become uncomfortable. But you know, this is also where, you know, maybe that person.. Is the woman climaxing? I mean, if you wanna go for an hour and a half, is she actually not climaxing?

Jeff Abraham:

Yeah. That's it. Is she? Why don't you bring her into the conversation and go, yeah . Do you really want , you know, and there's a certain number of women and it's not insignificant that don't climax during intercourse. Because if you think about it , the location of the clitoris is not optimum for actual climax during intercourse. Exactly. So I tell people, especially people that have who suffer from rapid or premature ejaculation. And I'll tell you about this in a second and it's much higher than you would think that have that issue. Right. I always tell people, they'll go, oh, you know, what can I do? And you know, we have a lot of tips that we can give people in addition to using a spray about different positions that tend to make you last longer, you know, that type of stuff. Okay . But I tell people, put one in the bank before you, it going , they go, what does that mean? <laugh> I go, give your partner in orgasm, prior to intercourse. Yes. Number one, you know, she's already had a nice orgasm, number two, it takes away some of the anxiety from you. Yes. Which would only increase the chance of you prematurely, because you're going, oh my God , she hasn't come yet. Oh my God . Oh my gosh . You know ? Right. I tell people that anxiety and intimacy should be two completely separate emotions. They should never intersect. Okay . You never want to have anxiety along with your intimacy. That's not a good situation. No. So if your partner has an orgasm prior to beginning intercourse, you're gonna be much more comfortable and much less a about the intercourse because you know that your partner has already climaxed. So that's important, but we need to step away from the, the feeling of, okay , what is premature? And let's step into the realm of the normal, healthy couple. Okay . This is the normal 30, 35, 40 year old couple, no PE normal, healthy people without any sexual issues. The average man during intercourse during penetration or thrusting lasts five minutes and 42 seconds. OK . The average female without extensive prior stimulation takes 18 minutes to climax. There's an actual medical term for it that people use it's called the arousal gap or the orgasm gap. Yeah. So that's why a lot of times I tell people and we get a lot of the feedback from some of our customers who go, I didn't really think I even had PE and I don't think I really have it technically, but you know, I tried your product. We were having a fantasy night. We were having a 50 shades of gray night and we bought a feather duster and a riding crop. You know, I just love the idea of having that extra layer of, oh, I don't have to worry. That's not an issue because some have actually told us, I last long enough to satisfy my partner. But the last two minutes, I'm like that little guy's like walking on eggshells, sitting on my shoulder. Not yet. Not yet. She hasn't come yet. Oh my God. She hasn't orgasm yet. And then you get that feeling. Oh, I hope she hasn't go reverse cowgirl. I can't hold it in that position. Oh my God, I hope this . You don't need that . Wouldn't it be nicer to go, to have this part of the equation in your mind? Should I give her two orgasms or three before we're done as a , to can I last long enough to give her one, you know, exactly. That's a much better feeling. It's a much better, you know , uh, ambience to your love making to have that insurance policy to go. That's not an issue tonight. You know? And, and we have certain people that will tell us, you know, I use your product sporadically. If for some reason I've been on a business trip, I've been traveling. My life was busy. We haven't been intimate in a couple weeks. If you haven't had any release, you're gonna have a quicker trigger. Yes . People that are single. Tell us that the first time I'm with a new partner. I wanna make sure I have that because yeah. When you're with someone the first time, there's a heightened sense of arousal. It's a lot more erotic because you're not into the, you know, mode. Well , I do this and she does that. The first time you undress someone, even though most bodies are somewhat similar, there's a certain mystique to it, you know? Yes . Like you feel like you're a kid at Christmas unwrapping a Christmas gift. You know ? Yeah . And you know, that, just that feeling like when I do this, know for sure she's gonna do that, you know? Right. Yes. And so there's some people tell us, I don't use your product all the time, but I use it when I'm with a new partner early on and we have some people that'll be descriptive enough. They'll say I use it occasionally. And I go, well, what's the difference between the occasions you do? And you don't. They'll like, if I'm on , on a , you know, Wednesday night and you know, we both have to get up at 6:00 AM and it's already midnight. I'm not gonna use the products. I don't need a marathon marathon session, you know , whatever. Yes . But if it's Friday night, the kids are at the in-laws place. Neither one of 'em has to get up in the ear in the morning. I'm bringing out the product, cuz I want a marathon session. I'm like, wow, that's interesting. You know like ,

Ruan Willow:

Yeah . And that's true. It makes sense.

Jeff Abraham:

No, some people actually go, I'm gonna use it. You know, when I know that, you know, we have a couple hours to just really get into it and explore one another. But if it's like, I gotta get this over with in 20 minutes, we both have to get to bed, but we're both like an orgasm prior to bedtime then. Right . I go, wow . That really takes the romance out of it. But it's true in today's world . That's true. Yeah . You really need to , to be practical and go, what do I need today?

Ruan Willow:

Right. What do we have time for? Unfortunately? What do we have time for? Yeah . Yes , exactly. It's not, what do I want is what do we have time for sometimes? You know?

Jeff Abraham:

Yes, exactly.

Ruan Willow:

One thing I was thinking about as you were talking , is that your product , like it would be twofold, beneficial. Not only is it helping climax, it's gonna help that fragile ego that you're talking about because the man's not gonna think, oh, I can't satisfy her. He's gonna think like when you said, if I wanna give her two or three, well that is gonna be an ego booster right there with your product . Cause he can.

Jeff Abraham:

I can tell you this, that you know, all I do all day is talk to our clients, talk to doctors and everything else. If you have an unsatisfactory sex life, it generally creeps into other areas of your life. True. You're not as oh , open , communicative and confident in any aspect of your life. When you have satisfactory good sex, you are generally a better partner. Even outside of the bedroom. You're a better boss. You're a better daughter. You're a better, you know, friend, you're a better brother, your sister, cuz your outlook on life is just better. You know, feel more positive and <affirmative> , and it's not saying that the entire world revolves around sex because it doesn't right . But it's a very important, critical part of people's lives and our sexual wellbeing and our sexual Prowe plays into our ego and self-esteem. Yep . And so in that regard, it is very important that address it, just like we do all other areas of our life. We, you know, make sure we eat right. And we make sure our cholesterol is low and we make sure our body fat is low and we make sure a lot of different areas of our life that are optimized. Why would you short change anything as important as the sexual aspect of your

Ruan Willow:

Life ? Exactly . Sexual health is a part of health.

Jeff Abraham:

It's absolutely a part of a very key part of health.

Ruan Willow:

Absolutely. And it's part of our mental wellbeing. It's part of our physical wellbeing and our emotional, our, our , our relational wellbeing, you know, it's, it's super important. That's why I think this is so great. I really like your product. I really like the , that you promote it being for the couple because so many people just have this wrong attitude about it being just for one, it , I think some men might also, like you said, feel like this is like admitting that they aren't all that.

Jeff Abraham:

Yeah . And it's not , it's not about that at all. It's about satisfying your partner and having a mutually satisfactory sex life. And that includes your partner. And I can't stress enough. You know, I took criticism early on when we first launched our website, cuz people go, is that a, you know, a university educational site, are you selling product? And I told people both and it's very critical that it's both because we're not into trying to get as many people as possible to just try the product and buy it. Our goal. And our mantra is to have people buy the right product for the right reasons and use it correctly so that they become repeat customers. And not only that, they tell other people about us and tell their friends and family members, Hey, this is a great product. This is a great company. Because if you get into that scenario, your own customer base becomes the best ambassadors for you. And do I wanna go out and try to sell one bottle to 10 million people? Or do I wanna go out and find 1 million people that buy it 10 times a year? Right ? It's very easy to figure out which one of those is the better recipe for long term success.

Ruan Willow:

Absolutely. So are there any side effects that are something that people should watch out for?

Jeff Abraham:

No, we've sold millions of bottles now. And the calls that we get to our contraindications line are as follows. Can I use this? If I'm trying to get pregnant, can we use this? If I am pregnant, you know, can we use this with a, you know, latex, condom, you know, those types of things. Sure. We do tell people that not use Promescent. If you have an allergy to Lidocaine, if you're allergic to lidocaine , but even there you'll have a little bit of itching, maybe some redness, but it's not gonna do any damage, you know? Okay . You'll have, you know , uh , a little bit of an uncomfortable situation for a period of time, but it's not anything, you know, catastrophic. So the product is very safe. It's safe. It's cost effective . The average person using it uses about $2 of product per episode or per session. I always find it very challenging to figure out what to refer to each other . Oh, I know, right. <laugh> yeah . What is that? An episode? An adventure. You know what I mean ? An encounter? What is it an encounter? Well , I actually like session . That's a good one . Yeah , yeah . Session . Exactly . <laugh> yeah. So it's cost effective and it's effective, but you know, we have to educate people. That's why, when you go to our website, you see clinical trials, you see blog articles, you see doctors with testimonials and you know, we're in the protocol of 2200 urologists. So there's the 200 urologists that mentioned PROEs by name. Nice . Go in and say, I'm gonna last longer. We're very proud of that. It took a lot of money, a lot of research and a lot of clinical trials to convince some of that. And you know, then they were like, this stuff is legit. So that's important for us to have that credibility. Very, very important

Ruan Willow:

Well that brought up a question, how do people get this? Is it a prescription?

Jeff Abraham:

No, it's over to counter. This is really interesting because we follow an FDA monograph or monograph compliant, which means they've tested all these, you know, pro all these ingredients used in Promescent over 40 years in different products and they're safe. So you're covered under a mono. So we did our clinical trial for efficacy to show how well it worked because we know the product is safe and the FDA knows it's safe because they tested every ingredient in it. So it's available. And I always tell people we're available. Our delay sprays available at all targets, a thousand Walmart stores, GNC, Amazon run our website. You know, you there's many places. You can get us a bunch of independent pharmacies. There's a bunch of doctors that actually stocked it. But here's what I recommend go to our website because that's where you'll find all the research. That's where you'll find out, okay, what product you want to use for this reason, you'll find the proper way to use it. There's actually some doctor, you know, videos that show how to use the spray properly to talk about the Vita flux , the nitric oxide supplements. So you'll go to the website and you will learn how to, which product to use, why to you use it and how to properly use it, which is the most important thing. Yes. Then if you go, I don't now one things we do, we do our own fulfillment. We have a 24 7 . So we have our own warehouse where we ship our own products. There's zero charges for shipping. It's completely free. Nice. And we have a 60 day full on 100% return policy. So if you're dissatisfied, for any reason, you get your money back. That's how confident we're. But we also tell people that you go to our website. If you go, I want it today. I wanna go pick it up. There's a store finder . You type in your zip code. When you type in your zip code, it literally will show you which stores. You can go. Five miles, 15 miles , 25, 35 miles, whatever. It'll show you, which stores carry which products. So you're not gonna be disappointed. You go, oh, I wanted to get your organic Vera lube . And I went to target and they only have delay spray. So you put in your zip code and it'll show you, which stores have, which products around you. So that before you get in the car and make the drive, you know, you're gonna be able to acquire whatever it is you want to go purchase. So that's why I tell people the best place to start is at our site. If you're very comfortable there and you want the full 60 day money back guarantee and it's free shipping and everything else. And like I said, we ship every single day, seven days a week, you can do that. But if you're more comfortable, then will give you the names of whether it be an independent pharmacy, whether it be a target location that has the spray, a Walmart location that has the spray or a GNC location that has a bunch of our products. So you'll know exactly where to go, but go first and get educated, go first and find out why am I buying this product for what condition am I buying it for and how to put properly use it because right , we don't want you just to buy the product. We want you to have success with the product. And we want you to feel that it's a great value and that it was something that added to your intimacy. That's how you're gonna become a repeat customer. And that's how you're gonna , you know, spread the word and tell others about us, which is our eventual goal to have the best ambassadors and the best promoters of our product being the people using it .

Ruan Willow:

Oh, absolutely. So I have a few questions I thought of while you were talking, how many sprays about are in like how many uses is one bottle or one? I don't know how it's sold. I'm assuming it's a bottle.

Jeff Abraham:

Small bottle is 20 . The large bottle is 60. Okay . So the average person off you're using it recreationally. If you don't have PE and you just want that longer duration, you're gonna use one, maybe two at the max. Okay . If you have more significant PE you're gonna start at three and scale up from there.

Ruan Willow:

Okay ? Sure. It sounds like gradient based.

Jeff Abraham:

And it's a dose spray, which is great because you get the exact same amount. It's not like some tube where you squeeze it. You don't know how much comes up . Yeah. It's a meter dose spray bottle. So you get the exact same amount every time you spray it . So people will tell us that they titrate that, you know, I know that, you know , four's a little too much. Three's perfect for me. We've had people even go three and a half, you know , I'll go three sprays and I'll give because four's a little, much, three , uh , I want a little more. I'm like, wow, okay . That's interesting. That is ING down to that point. You know ? So , but it's nice. That's a meter dose spray bottle, cuz it gives you the ability to titrate and say, I want exactly this amount and get exactly that amount. You know, it's like toothpaste, you ever do that? Where you're getting ready to squeeze it. No nothing's coming outta you . Squeeze really hard. And it comes blowing outta there. You know what I mean?

Ruan Willow:

Yes.

Jeff Abraham:

It's , it's hard to overdose with a product like this, titrate it , unless you get it in a meter dose spray bottles, that's a big selling point that we have.

Ruan Willow:

Right? No , I kinda have a silly question. Do you, do you apply it while it's flacid ? Does it have to be hard? Does it matter? Does it matter?

Jeff Abraham:

We suggest, you know, applying it right prior to sex when you're flacid or semi hard or whatever mm-hmm <affirmative> , it absolutely makes no difference whatsoever, but it's very important to know exactly how to do it. We explained it on our website, you apply it to the underside, to the head of the penis where most of the nerve endings are it's called Frum. Okay . So that's you wanna start there, apply the majority of it there and then maybe go down the shaft a little bit and then let it, you know, absorb and then five, seven minutes later, you're good to go.

Ruan Willow:

Oh , that's very good to know. I was curious about that. Like if it matters and actually I was curious too, where you apply it, so , and that makes sense.

Jeff Abraham:

It's important. You know, now certain men have told us, well, I find that my sensitivity, I have high degree of P is in a certain area. You'll be able to, to determine that, you know, when you begin using the product, but 90% of men, the best place is right on the frenulum, the underside of the head of the penis, that's where the majority of the nerve endings are. Right .

Ruan Willow:

And you know what I also like about this is I hear some people say, oh, I don't wanna take another pill. This isn't a pill.

Jeff Abraham:

Pills are systemic. Every time you ingest something in your body for every positive effect, there's a negative effect. You know , there really is for the most <affirmative> , especially with prescriptions, which are drugs. Now there's a difference if you're taking, you know, vitamins and everything, it's gonna be much less of that. Right . But with prescription stuff, people need to understand Viagras , Vitra have very significant downsides. That's why they're RX. That's why they're prescription. Right? They were an offshoot. They were developed by accident . They were for heart patients to open heart valves. Oh . And when they were talking to people saying, Hey, you know, how's your heart, what's the blood flow. I don't know about that. But I get a giant erection every time I take this really.

Ruan Willow:

Oh , that's interesting.

Jeff Abraham:

Yeah. It was. They backed into it by accident . Huh ? You can believe that. So that

Ruan Willow:

Is crazy actually.

Jeff Abraham:

<laugh> yeah, it's nuts. But that's how it happened . So it's, you know, it's, it's very understandable this day and age that people wanna know exactly what they're putting in their body. Yes . They wanna minimize the amount of things they put in their body because you want control over what's in , in your body and what effects it might be causing.

Ruan Willow:

Exactly. And that's why it's nice that this is actually topical. Yes. It soaks in. But like you said, it's not systemic. It's not

Jeff Abraham:

Systemic. No.

Ruan Willow:

Yeah, yeah. That's great. I, I just think that I am very excited that I can help promote this because I get people all the time asking me, you know, ideas for improving sex with their partner or, you know, what could I do, you have any ideas? And so this is great . I love that . Now that I know about this . Cause I honestly sadly , never of your product before , so yeah . I'm very glad that I do now

Jeff Abraham:

No , we wanna make sure that influential people really understand and know who we are and you know, one of the things that helped put us on the map to be quite honest with you is very early on Dr . Laura Berman . I dunno if you know Laura , uh , I think I've heard her name. Yeah. That she has a show on the Oprah network called in the bedroom with Laura Berman. She was Oprah's go-to sex therapist for many years. Ah <affirmative> uh, she discovered us and really promoted us and you know, Emily Moore sex with Emily mm-hmm <affirmative> yep . She absolutely loves us. I mean she awesome first met Emma , believe it or not a decade ago. Over a decade ago, 2011. Okay . On her couch in Santa Monica just had this little blog and I'll never forget, she sent me this and she's like, you know, some of my people told me they really like your product. Tell me about it. And I'm like huge . I'm Emily Moore . I have this little podcast I started, I think she had like , you know , hundred downloads, you know, and right, right. Yeah. We started conversing. And so we get together quite frequently. Now I'm on her podcast at least once a year. And we oh , and go , remember when you were on your couch and I was on mine, you know what I mean? And <laugh> , and you know, of course now she's got that serious radio show and you know, oh yeah. Podcast and master class and all this stuff. And that's awesome from, you know, me on my couch, you know, to having a multi-million dollar operation with warehouses and wow headquarters. We both laugh because yes , we both started together, but people like that have been instrumental. So it's important for us to have people like you be aware of us. So people say to them, you know, Hey, I've really. And the one thing I tell people that people are blown away by this, there is a higher degree of PE in the world and there is ed and that's crazy. Actually urologist will tell you that 10 to 15% of ed is misdiagnosed PE oh , if a man has chronic PE and he has it all the time, he will eventually develop ed because his body and his mind realized that getting erection leads to an unsatisfactory conclusion. Oh . So it will eventually start shutting down cuz it's like, oh, I don't wanna go there cuz I know what happens. It's just psychological.

Ruan Willow:

Yeah. Psychological.

Jeff Abraham:

So this is a real issue that many men face. Some of it chronically, some of people's sporadically because even the media and some comedians did a disservice to PE because they used to joke about it all . You're not strong enough mentally, you know, all these things. Yeah . Mm-hmm <affirmative> and I will tell you this, that in certain cases it's a psychological component, but there are few and far in between. And the majority of cases of PE there is a real physiological issue. This is some of the reasons why a man can rapidly or premature from physical issues. This is including, but not limited to, you know, Prostitis hypersensitivity the penile nerves, low testosterone , uh, those . So there's many physi physical issues and you should not be ashamed or embarrassed because I use this analogy. I tell people would a diabetic be embarrassed about taking insulin? Of course not. Oh exactly. Yeah . Would a person with cancer be embarrassed about taking chemo? Of course not. So if you have hypersensitivity, the penile nerves, Prostitis low testosterone. Why would you be embarrassed about saying I wanna last longer or if you're just intelligent, you go, the average man lasts five minutes and 42 seconds. The average female takes 18. Right ? Why don't, you know, I add something in here. That'll even that out without me having to stress out about whether she's gonna go reverse cow on me about whether or not I'm gonna do this, you know , the two minutes I'm like, oh no, not yet please. No Jesus . Right, right. No , no . You know , use every tool in your potential toolbox. Don't ignore it. Yes. And like we stated earlier, really, truly focus on pleasure for both you and your partner and maximizing that.

Ruan Willow:

Absolutely. I interviewed a sex therapist recently and I loved her analogy when we were talking about sex toys , she said, okay , you're gonna make a table. You got a log of wood. Are you gonna try to make that with your hands? No, you're gonna use tools.

Jeff Abraham:

No difference. I like that. That's actually very good.

Ruan Willow:

I know. I was like blown away. I'm like, that's right. This is so true. You're not gonna just make that to able with just your hands, you are gonna use tools. Why is sex any different? It's not.

Jeff Abraham:

Use tools.

Ruan Willow:

Exactly. <laugh>

Jeff Abraham:

In fact, some of them look like advance power tools these days. Anyhow , you know , it's very good analogy.

Ruan Willow:

<laugh> , it's a very good analogy. And you know, and , and there are certain tools that are gonna be better than others. Some are gonna be electric, some are gonna be manual. It's just , it's a very good analogy. <laugh> well,

Jeff Abraham:

Yes exactly, some of the vibrators we have on our site right now, you're not gonna believe this . They interactive, you have apps on your phone, so you can share with your partner, even when they're traveling, I guess I'm a little old school , you know, they're like, oh, you can be on the other side of the planet. I'm like, I prefer my sex when I'm in the room. You know what I mean? Right. I guess you could do that. But for me I'd be like, all that would be to me, it'd be like going to, you know, a buffet where I couldn't eat. You know what I mean? It's like , right . Why would I wanna watch someone else get off? I guess it's good. But you know, my age, it's better if you you're there, you know?

Ruan Willow:

Right. Absolutely. But it is very beneficial for people who maybe travel a lot or they wanna be intimate. It may not be as good as in person, but it's something. Yeah,

Jeff Abraham:

It's something, but it would probably tend to have me cut my trip short, if I'm going really quick. I got another two weeks where I'm going home. Screw it . I'm going home tomorrow. You know, I'm gonna go home right

Ruan Willow:

Now. <laugh> yeah .

Jeff Abraham:

Yeah . What's that next flight back to Summerland, you know?

Ruan Willow:

Exactly. Oh , that's fantastic. So what other products do you have?

Jeff Abraham:

We have lubes a full line of lobes, regular lubes, you know, water based lubes, silicone lubes, organic Ave, lubes. We have a female arousal gel and two varieties, warming and buzzing that have been extremely popular.

Ruan Willow:

I mean , I've never heard of that. That's interesting.

Jeff Abraham:

Really, really interesting because one of 'em you apply it right to the clitoris and the vagina and it just gives you this warming sensation and warming sensation tends to enhance blood flow, which tends to increase moisturization. You know what I mean? And yes , you get a lot hotter for sex and the other one's a buzzing one. And we tell people that one is for people that, you know, have a much higher tolerance for, you know, stimulation because with a man, most men are pretty similar. You know, I've never heard a man ever say to me, you know, I really don't like blow jobs . I mean, the next time I hear that will be the first. Right . But there's a lot of women that are like, well, I really love oral sex or certain women that are like, I don't like oral sex. Yeah . There are certain people that I've dated. Like I need direct stimulation vigorously right on my clitoris. You know what I mean? To match ? Yes . There are others. That'll say I don't. In fact, I freak out with direct stimulation. I have a very sensitive clitoris you know, that kind of thing. Right? Right. So the reason we have buzzing and warming the warming is for tend to people who don't like the direct stimulation, the buzzing, oh , might be a little much if you're have very sensitive clitoris. So those two things, and they're very well received . We women and love those two products. In fact, I went on this podcast called two wild orchids. It's a swinger podcast. Okay . And they're two female hosts. And the one says to me, you know , I've been on there a couple times. She's loves our products . <laugh> she's had it for years. And she says to me, cause we're wearing today . I'm like, well , blazer on. I can see, you know, that <laugh> , I dunno what else you're wearing, you know? Right , right . Because I'm wearing the warming arousal gel. I'm like what? Ah , she goes, I literally, every morning I give miss myself a , she goes, just like grill cream, a little dab will do ya. You know what I mean? And I start laughing and she goes sometimes in the middle of the day, I'll take a break and go hit another little things . Because when I get home the other day, it feels like I've had foreplay for eight hours all day. Cause it's just warm . And I just feel, I'm like, wow, that's really interesting. You know? And we've had other people tell us the same thing. So those have been very, very, you know, widely received though . Vibrators have been really solid for us because they're, they're all top of the line, top quality. We, we really don't try to be a me too company. We don't really put anything on our site unless we feel it's as good or not better at everything else in that category. And we , I think that's, what's led to our success. So the vibrators are exceptional. A real breakthrough product that we've had has been Vita flux . It's you know what nitric oxide supplements are. Yes. Okay. So they promote blood flow mm-hmm <affirmative> so there's certain things that they do for both men and women. Number one, it's not just for the bedroom. Okay. If you're working out you're sore, you're tired. They really promote blood in the way that you recover from soreness from strenuous physical workouts or whatever is to get oxygenated rich blood into the area, which promotes. Sure . Yeah. Yeah . It's good for that. Obviously, when you have excessive blood flow for men, it gives you firmer erections for women. It enhances your, you know, ability to get aroused and orgasm because of the increased blood flow. Now let me make one thing perfectly clear. If you're impotent, you're not gonna use Vita flux and suddenly like Viagra, get a raging heart on. Right. Okay . It enhances what you have, but it's not going to take you from being impotent to stallion, but it will definitely enhance your erections. And for women, it will enhance the blood flow into that area. One of the other benefits from it that women absolutely lose their mind over is when we age both men and women, every vein and every artery in your body is covered by an epithelial layer mm-hmm <affirmative> . And what that epithelial layer is meant to do is to keep bad stuff from absorb into your bloodstream and allowing good stuff to come in. So hormones and vitamins and minerals pass through it. Mm-hmm <affirmative> to , you know, obviously keep you nourished and fit and healthy and it keeps out viruses and you know, any kind of bacteria to keep you healthy. So that's what it does as we age that epithelial layer hardens, when it hardens, it becomes even better at keeping bad stuff out. But unfortunately it becomes very good at keeping good stuff out like hormones and vitamins and minerals, right? So women sometimes when they reach their late thirties, early forties, even prior to an exacerbated by , uh, you know, the change when women, you know, go through the change mm-hmm <affirmative> they tend to exhibit a lot of vaginal dryness, you know? Okay . Mm-hmm <affirmative> they really, and truly have to use tons of outside lubrication when you use Vita flux . It literally softens that epithelial layer, which allows for better hormonal absorptions. So you also get less body fat, higher degree of muscle tissue because of the increased hormonal absorption and for women, it also allows you to lubricate. So that is our second best selling product right now. It is absolutely revolutionary, not an evolutionary product for us. It's we've had very, very good success with

Ruan Willow:

Vita flux . And now is that the female arousal gel or is that something else?

Jeff Abraham:

It's totally separate than the arousal gel.

Ruan Willow:

Okay. This is totally a separate product. Okay.

Jeff Abraham:

Yeah. So we have the arousal gel, which is a, it's a gel that you apply. And Vita flux is a combination of L arginine . Eldine El carnitine , along with magnesium and zinc. So it's three amino acids and two vitamins. So it's a supplement.

Ruan Willow:

It's a supplement. Yes. Okay . Gotcha.

Jeff Abraham:

Oh, it's an absolute supplement.

Ruan Willow:

Oh, that's very interesting.

Jeff Abraham:

It was devleoped by a sexual medicine specialist who happens to be on our board. And he came to me and said, Hey, I want you to try this. And I was like, is that, you know, what I mean, I was like, oh my Lord, it increases libido. It really does because blood impacts that.

Ruan Willow:

Interesting. I like that. So, and this is something men and women can take it. Right. Is it for both men and women?

Jeff Abraham:

For men and women? Absolutely.

Ruan Willow:

Okay. Now this brought up another interesting point for me. I recently was approached by a man who has a very strong libido and his wife does not, she has medical issues and she doesn't like to pant, and part of it is her lung issues. So when she gets panting too much , it's kind panic mode for her . It made me think of this gel that could maybe get her to enjoy sex more or quicker instead of getting to that level where she's breathing so heavily. Would you think that kinda a product would help her?

Jeff Abraham:

I think that would help her because her arousal wouldn't have to be just through him penetrating and thrusting. You know what I mean? And yeah , yeah . Maybe that's what raises her heart rate and maybe get her to the point of higher or arousal quicker before that. So they wouldn't have to, if indeed, you know, she gets uncomfortable with a long session of, you know, heavy breathing. Maybe hopefully get her closer so that she won't be breathing heavily as, for as frequently or as long as along the amount of time is so she can achieve climax quicker.

Ruan Willow:

I am gonna suggest this to him because I mean, what a great thing for them to try.

Jeff Abraham:

Yes. You know ? Absolutely.

Ruan Willow:

It sounds like when, when you described it, I'm like, gosh, that just totally , he popped in my head and I thought, gosh, I need to tell him about this product because it might really help her be able to get back into sex a bit you know?

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Right. Definitely. ?

Jeff Abraham:

Yeah , no , we we've had a lot of women that just rave about the product and out of all the products we have and they were all successful. And, but it's crazy. That was the one that I was like, ah , I'm not sure about this, but right there , a lot of our customers that said, Hey, you know, you know, you got all these products for men. That was our first female product that we had. Mm . And you know, how about something for women? I've heard about these. And so we started doing some experimenting and I was trying different ones. And I was like, ah , I don't really see the science behind this. Right. And then I tried it with my girlfriend. She's like, I love the I'm like what <laugh> . And so couple of our other employees, you know, used it in their relationship. And it was like, oh my God, there is something here, you know? And it was like, and I wish I could say that, you know , I'm so smart. And every one of these, oh my God, I know is gonna work. This one was like, I was like, OK , try . But I really , I was like , wait a second . This actually is valid. You know? And it was like crazy. And you know, I look back now and I look at our very diverse product line cuz we have massage oils and condoms. And, but I would never tell anyone. And I mean this with a hundred percent sincerity, don't come to promescent.com and go, oh, I just wanna get condoms. You can get those anywhere. Don't come promescent .com and go, oh, I want to get, you know, massage oils. You can get anywhere. Right. When you come to proes.com you come because of the, the foundational products that we have that are clearly differential and better than what else is on on the market. And I would probably list those products as our delay spray, you know, our Vita flux, our female arousal gel. Those are as good, if not better than whatever they compete with. That's what I want people to take away and go, you know? And one of the reasons we added condoms and you know, lubes and although our organic Alovera lube is superb. I've heard that from so many people, but one of the reasons we developed those other products was cause they have people come to us and say, listen, I come buy my female arousal general . Our delay spray, but now I gotta go somewhere else and get this . Can you please, you know, we wanna be a one stop shop. Can you please? I go, okay , great. We'll do that. So yes, those products we're added, not because I go, we have the best condoms. If people know the truth, there's like three or four factories in the world that make condoms. And one week they make 7 billion for TRO. Then they shut down the next week, they make 7 billion for, you know , directs and next , oh wow . They make 7 billion here. Those are all about marketing. You know? Oh my God. You know , right there , there's really not that much of a differentiation. So I don't want people to come to our site because you can buy that stuff anywhere. I want you to come to our site and I want you to experience our delay, spray our Vita flux , our female arousal gel . Those are ones that you'll go, wow, that's a cut above . Those are different. Those are better. And that's important to us. We recently just introduced a delay wipe because sometimes even though this small , bottle's very discreet and it's small, you know, a guy going to a club one night, doesn't wanna put a little small bottle in this pocket, you know? Right. You know, that kinda stuff. So we have these wipes where it fits literally. It's just like, you know, those little things where you give yourself a shot, you take that little tear pad , you open it up that little . Yeah. Yeah . It's like that. So nice . It very discreet. And it fits very, very discretely. And so we developed those and they've been selling very, very well. They're not quite as effective as the spray. And we make that real clear on our site . Right . They they're good efficacy , but not great. But in some cases you go, I'll take that. Cuz I don't wanna carry a little bottle around. So right.

Ruan Willow:

We pick your battles

Jeff Abraham:

<laugh> yeah. We call it home in a way <laugh> keep Promescent delay spray on your nightstand. But if you have to go away for a day or two, you might wanna take a couple little wipes with you. You know, another product that again, I , I didn't mention this and I should cuz it's a great product that we do very well with. We have these before and after wipes. Oh and they're Aloe vera scented and they're we just , we call 'em before and after wipes. They're very effective. Say you go out dancing, you know, whatever. And you're on a date and you go home, you find yourself about to be intimate. You're like, holy. You know, <laugh> not as fresh as I was . Right .

Ruan Willow:

Right .

Jeff Abraham:

There are a little package that is very discreet. Same thing you can use to, you know, nice basically, you know, clean yourself up prior for both men and women. Yes. And they're also very effective afterwards for cleanup and nice. That's another one that, you know, we actually had people say, Hey, you know, I'm using these from someone else, but t o get everything here, c ould you guys develop something? And I was like, r eally t hat necessary <laugh> and I went, you know, it really is. And a lot of other ones t hat exist, they're like a plastic tub where you pull one out and then t he n ext one comes out. R ight. A nd I go, you know, that's really not that practical because if you're on the move and on the go, you know what I mean? L ike d ried o ut p lastic tub around for God sakes. People don't wanna carry a c hapstick s ize bottle of promescent delay spray around. They're n ot carry plastic tub around, you know? No, n o. So we developed t hem a nd just like our wipes, they're individually wrapped.

Ruan Willow:

Right . And that also could dry out if they're in a tub, I would think. Right. Cause some air gets in there.

Jeff Abraham:

Yeah . Yes , exactly. No, you have to put a seal back on it and go. So it's been, that product is very successful for us.

Ruan Willow:

It's interesting. I've never heard of that, but I think it's great idea.

Jeff Abraham:

Well, I'm gonna make sure that you get a little bit of everything. We're gonna send you a goody bag. Okay .

Ruan Willow:

I would love to try and I, I would totally review it on my blog. I can talk about it on my podcast. Cause I also have a website too. So I am really excited about your product. <laugh>

Jeff Abraham:

It'll be shipped today. I promise you. We'll get you a little bit of everything to try. Awesome. Uh , yeah. I look forward to that. I want you to make sure that with a hundred percent confidence, you're like, wow, these things actually work. These , this is a great company,

Ruan Willow:

Right? Oh absolutely. I'm really excited to try them . And I'm excited about all the products you've told me. It's just very interesting. And some of 'em I've never heard of before, so that's yeah . That's great. And I'm glad I can promote it.

Jeff Abraham:

No, this has been interesting. I've really enjoyed myself today.

Ruan Willow:

Yeah, I did too. Thank you so much for talking with me.

Jeff Abraham:

I really did enjoy. I feel like I just called a friend and we're having a conversation, you know? <Laugh>

Ruan Willow:

I love that.

Jeff Abraham:

You know I had to like snap back in . I go, Hey , wait this a podcast. You know what I mean ?

Ruan Willow:

I'm like , wait I like everything about that.

Jeff Abraham:

And I like the fact just let the conversation take itself where it needs to go. There's nothing worse . I go podcast and it's like , I feel like there's a robot on the other end . Okay . All right . Tell me about this . And then you're halfway . Tell me about that . Tell me about this . It just it's so scripted, you know?

Ruan Willow:

Yeah, yeah, exactly . It's just , yeah . Not , not, not fun. Not real interactive. It's just, you know , blah. <Laugh>

Jeff Abraham:

I think podcasts are like relationships, let, 'em take their own space. You know what I mean? Oh yes. Let 'em find their own path .

Ruan Willow:

Yes. Those are the best ones to listen to. Absolutely. Yeah ,

Jeff Abraham:

No , I've always felt that way. I've always thought that the podcasts and I enjoy the most are ones where I forget I'm on a podcast and I feel like I'm having a conversation.

Ruan Willow:

Exactly. <laugh> absolutely. Well, I have enjoyed this so much, but is there anything else that you would like to add or talk about before?

Jeff Abraham:

Not really . I would just like to say one, two final things. Number one, people sometimes add , ask me what's the best sexual aid . Right? And I mean this, when I say this with a hundred percent sincerity, the best sexual aid is communication.

Ruan Willow:

Oh , oh yes.

Jeff Abraham:

Communicate with your lover . Don't assume anything.

Ruan Willow:

Ask your lover.

Jeff Abraham:

Explore with your lover , encourage your lover to be vocal , to share with you and not be apprehensive. If I've had people tell me I've never met anyone that allows me to be myself sexually like you. And I go, well, why would I want you to be someone else? I want you to feel comfortable because if you're comfortable , you have a higher chance of enjoying yourself. If you're comfortable , you have a much more sensual nature about you. You're not guarded. You're not right by allowing you to feel comfortable and drop your guard. It's better for both of us. Absolutely. Yeah. And number two, even if you are just curious, go to our website, I received criticism early on. Like I said, when I put up my website, people are like, is that a product or a place where you buy product? Or you're trying to educate people. Is that a university site? You know , there's political trials, there's videos, there's blogs. And I go, you know what it is. It's a site for people to go educate themselves about sexual wellness. Nice . If you go promescent .com , I don't care if you don't even buy anything, but learn, learn about what products are out there. Learn about how to become a better lover. Read the blogs. There's blogs on everything for God sakes. I saw a blog on there other day about prostate milking. I was like, what?

Ruan Willow:

Yeah , that's a thing.

Jeff Abraham:

That's our SEO program was like, Hey , that's a big search topic. And people were talking about it like , okay , great. You know what I mean? Wanna educate people big , but no matter what your fantasy, no matter what area you want to educate yourself, you'll find articles about it. Right? At the end of the day, we feel the more educated people are, the more information that they have, the more they're willing to open a up and have better sex lives. And we believe that the more knowledge and the more information that is out there, it leads to us because we're based in science, our products have clinical trials, they have medical testimonials and referrals. And to me, this scenario in my life, I don't wanna be going to a , a gas station or a seven 11 month . Right . Some boner pills, you know what I mean? Right. Hoping they work, you know, I'm like exactly. Cause we've all seen those articles where they have these herbal supplements. It turns out they're spiked with, you know, Senil mm . There is nothing more irresponsible than that on planet earth. Okay . Yeah . You could kill people by doing that. Ugh . Senil which is the, you know, generic name for Viagra is the reason that it's prescription is because it's a heart pill that if you have a heart condition, it can kill you. Okay . Yikes. So do not. This is a very, very sensitive area and a very important area of your life. Do not put a blindfold on to start buying garbage instead up that you know, that is made in someone's garage somewhere. Exactly. This is an important area of your life. It's just like making sure you're eating quality food, not poisoning yourself. Yep . Make sure you use products that are covered under FDA monographs that are scrutinized, that are manufactured and pharmaceutical grade manufacturing, you know, conditions under the cleanest circumstances possible. This is an important part of life and it is pay mind to it and make sure you're not short changing yourself.

Ruan Willow:

Yeah. And I thought of this earlier and I forgot to mention it. The other thing I really like about your product being over the counter for some men, it's gonna be really hard to walk into a doctor's office and be like, I can't last, like they don't even wanna say that, but they can try your product without having to go and face to face . Look at another human being and say, I can't last. I can't do it.

Jeff Abraham:

Not only that you go to a doctor's office prescription and go, I can't last. So the doctor goes, okay, great. Then he has the nurse practitioner come in. She goes, oh you can't last here. Let me write you a prescription. So there's a second person. Right. And you go to the pharmacy and yes . You know, your neighbor's daughter's working at the checkout. She hands you a prescription, you know what I mean? She goes, oh, if having trouble lasting, you know what I mean? Then the pharmacy's in your bowling league goes to Philly . He goes, oh, Frank's having trouble lasting, you know? Right . A lot of people don't like the, that no , that's I tell people that we really promote our website because even sometimes you go to the store that people check out , they know you, you know what I mean? Exactly. Yes. So some people are very comfortable doing that. But for those that don't how about if this arrives discreetly at your door, it comes exactly mailer. That is brown. And all it says on the return address is PLLC , which stands for absorption pharmaceuticals, limited liability corporation know the right mind , sees P goes, Hey, what's that?

Ruan Willow:

Yeah, you know, I know like that's too much to even remember to look up. Right. <laugh> yeah .

Jeff Abraham:

So it's discreet. It arrives at your door only you and whoever you wish to share it with will know that you are using one of the products in there.

Ruan Willow:

Oh , I love that. That is just gonna reach so many more people too doing it in that way.

Jeff Abraham:

Yes . It's important. You know, if you wanna share it, you share it, but you don't have to go Christ six people already knew it by the time I even got my product,

Ruan Willow:

Or, you know, they see it in your cart and you're like trying to cover it up, you know?

Jeff Abraham:

Yeah, you know, exactly. No it's we want to make it available, whatever form that you want. If you wanna go to the store, we have that available. If you wanna just, you know, have it delivered discreetly to your door, that's available, whatever works for you. We have doctors that carry it. You wanna go there and pick it up. You can do it. You know, we have independent pharmacies that have it, I'm going on the other side of town to pick it up. You know? I mean, right. We just wanna make it as, as less obtrusive and as easy for you to acquire as possible. And hopefully you'll benefit from it.

Ruan Willow:

Absolutely. Just fantastic. Well, I'm really excited to promote this and tell other people about it and, oh , I'm just so excited to try them. It's just great products!

Jeff Abraham:

I'm looking forward to your feedback and you know, whenever I find a podcast that I like, and I think resonates with us and has the same vision. This is the beginning of a relationship. We let's do things together going forward. Absolutely.

Ruan Willow:

I would love, love to do that .

Jeff Abraham:

Yeah , no, it's been a pleasure.

Ruan Willow:

Well , thank you so much. I really appreciate you coming and sharing all that and educating me so we can educate others and everybody have better sex.

Jeff Abraham:

Yeah. Like I said earlier, this is the, the forum that I choose. If we just do a digital role or something, people go, wow , that's another one of those. This gives us a chance for people. You don't know how many times people buying say on our website, we have this customer service , they fill out and they go, I heard your CEO on a podcast. And the guy's totally sincere, you know? Nice . The fact that you guys have this full on money back guarantee, blah, blah, blah, blah , blah. Yes . And I get emails all the time, cuz I'm very open. And I tell people my email address is Jeff dot abraham@ promescent .com . Nice. How many times are you ever gonna hear a CEO? Go on a podcast. Go. Here's my here's my email address? <Laugh>

Ruan Willow:

I know right?

Jeff Abraham:

I answer every single email that I get.

Ruan Willow:

Wow, that's impressive.

Jeff Abraham:

I'm retired at age 53. Ron was my neighbor. My friend, I came outta retirement to do this. This was not a financial need. This isn't oh my God, I can have a chance to have it better, I've retired once already. I can live comfortable with the rest of my life. Sure. This was a labor of love. This was something I did in , you know, in every positive situation. Sometimes there's a little bit of tragedy involved to be quite honest with you. Ron Gilbert was a doctor to develop this product. He was my neighbor. My friend I told you about that , you know, sure . Made this , uh, eight years ago, almost exactly. January 27, 2013. He was murdered in a case of taken identity. Somebody who had a prostate surgery eight years prior. Oh, decided he was gonna kill the doctor, got the name , made it appointment . Ron thinking it was a guy that did the surgery and it wasn't even him. Oh man . I was freaked out. I literally was bummed. I almost just decided I couldn't do this anymore. I was running it because he was my friend and my neighbor and my doctor. Wow. But then I realized that everything else was outta my control. The only thing left in my control was to really, and truly, you know, honor him by making this company successful and by keeping his vision of keeping quality medical products.

Ruan Willow:

Wow. That's amazing. And what a tragic story. Oh my gosh. It's hideous .

Jeff Abraham:

Yeah. That's it's really , really bad.

Ruan Willow:

Yeah. It doesn't get much worse than that. That is awful.

Jeff Abraham:

Yeah. It was, it was, it was bad.

Ruan Willow:

Well, I'm glad that you have continued on and developed what you have because it's gotta be helping so many people and so many more hopefully in the future, that's just, that's what we need. This is the kinda stuff that we need and make relationships better. Better sex . Better intimacy. Yep . Absolutely.

Jeff Abraham:

All right . Well it's been my pleasure. Believe me.

Ruan Willow:

Wow. I've enjoyed it too. Thank you so much for coming on my podcast. I'm excited to move forward.

Jeff Abraham:

We will. And like I said, this is the beginning of a relationship.

Ruan Willow:

Absolutely. I'm in. <Laugh>

Jeff Abraham:

All righty . Sounds good. Okay . Let's stay in touch. Yep .

Ruan Willow:

Okay . Bye bye . Bye bye . Okay, well that was great. Well, thank you so much for listening to this podcast and I hope you found our chat so helpful. I was literally amazed talking with him, learning about some of these things. I mean their doctor recommended 2000 plus medical professionals nationwide, remote precent. There's no prescription required. It has discrete packaging. They have the delay spray, the Vita flux and 2200 urologists recommend this product. And what's really cool is they have this website and I'm actually looking at it right now. They even have a video from a doctor on here that you can watch and they have all this information. They have all these products and then extra products too. In case you wanna add stuff, you can take a quiz, they have a blog, they have discussion of premature. What you can do. They have so much on their website. And what's also really cool is that they actually do ship worldwide. So they have products that can reach around the world. I mean, everywhere, 200 countries, worldwide, UK, Australia, Canada, the entire middle east Singapore, jhan et cetera on and on. There are a few that they do not ship to, or they're not able to. And they are Ascension island, Austria, Egypt, El Salvador . Hmm . I don't know what that word is. GCI Gochi I'm not sure. Iraq Jersey Minear Russia, Somalia and Tristan CUNA . But all other countries like 200 countries over 200 countries they deliver to . So, and I'm really excited. I'm gonna be trying out their products and I will do another review podcast of their products. I'm just really excited about everything they have that can help people have better sex. Many people have conditions or medical illnesses disorders that prevent them from having good sex. So products like these can really help people have a more fulfilling sex life, greater intimacy with their partner. And just that leads to a better enjoyment of life. A better quality of life. Sex is such a big part of our lives and make it the best you can and never, ever, ever be ashamed of using a product or a toy. They are enhancements enhancements to your sex to make it better. It's never an insult. Never is it competition. Let's just have great sex, right? We don't need to be feeling bad about these things. We just need to use these amazing products to make it. I'm really excited to try these. And like I said, I will be doing a review on my blog post on my website, ruan Willow author.com. I will review it on social media. I'll do little clips and maybe some videos probably do an unboxing video <laugh> and also I will be doing another podcast review of these products after I have tried them out. I can't wait. I'm so excited. Just amazing. Amazing, amazing talk. I loved talking with Jeff and I just was very informative. I loved learning about the new products that I can share with all of you. So I hope that you have found this helpful would love any all feedback that you have on it. Let us know, let me know, leave a comment, contact me on social media. You can visit my website and you can leave me a message there. You can email me from there. I hope you enjoy this as much as we did. We had a great talk. So I hope you have an amazing, sexy day. I love ya . Are you an expert at something? Everyone's an expert at something right? You ever heard of Kitcaster? Did you know that they are a great way to grow your personal and business brand voice? Here's the secret. We all want to feel connected to brands we buy from what better way to humanize a brand than through sharing your story on a podcast Kitcasters, a podcast booking agency that specializes in developing real human connections through podcast appearances. If you are an expert in your field, have a unique story to share, or an interesting point of view. It's time to explore the worlds of podcasting with kitcaster. You can expect a complete concierge service from our staff of communication experts. Kitcastor is your secret weapon in podcasting for business, your business, your audience is waiting to hear from you go to H T T P S semi colon back slash kitcaster .com . Oh , FC K . Yeah. Back slash to apply for a special offer for friends of this podcast. I will put that link down in the podcast notes. You know why I love, love, love this kitcaster? They actually brought me an amazing guest, which I'm so excited about. And we had a great discussion and I'm looking forward to talking with more guests through the Kitcaster service. If you have something to say, or you have something to advertise, if you have a book out, I wanna talk to you. Especially if you have a book out there on sexuality, sexual health, or you are an Erotica author, a romance author. I wanna talk to you. And if that's not your particular expertise, I can bet that Kitcaster will find a place for you to help you advertise your business through a podcast that matches your business. Try 'em out. They're fantastic.